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Post by Stu on Dec 26, 2014 20:08:56 GMT -5
Had a conversation with a friend recently to describe a recent trip to New England. I went looking for lighthouses and he asked which was my favorite. I had to explain the difference between "favorite" and "best," and I somehow made my point by using Star Wars films. I figured the same could be done with WWE Superstars, matches and PPVs. Here's how I used them:
A New Hope: The most historically or culturally significant
The Empire Strikes Back: The closest to perfection
Return of the Jedi: Not perfect, but lot's of fun with a good resolution
The Phantom Menace: Full of hype, but failed to deliver
Attack of the Clones: Just sort of there, leaves a lot to be desired
Revenge of the Sith: Decent, still kind of fun
You can use any Superstars, matches or PPVs you want, but I'm going to suggest sticking to a theme. For mine, I'll use Wrestlemanias.
A New Hope: Wrestlemania III
The Empire Strikes Back: Wrestlemania X-Seven
Return of the Jedi: Wrestlemania XX
The Phantom Menace: Wrestlemania 25
Attack of the Clones: Wrestlemania 26
Revenge of Sith: Wrestlemania 2000
Go for it!
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 26, 2014 20:11:49 GMT -5
WrestleMania XXX: A New Hope SummerSlam '14: Empire Strikes Back Survivor Series '14: Return of the Jedi
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 26, 2014 20:38:25 GMT -5
Halloween Havoc 1991 (Chamber of Horrors) is the Holiday Special.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 26, 2014 21:28:14 GMT -5
When WCW was around, Buff Bagwell and Disco Inferno were the wrestling equivalent of Jar Jar Binks IMO.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Dec 26, 2014 21:30:24 GMT -5
"And I thought they smelled bad on the outside." -Anonymous viewer of an average WWE PPV
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 26, 2014 21:42:29 GMT -5
Going to top-tier "face of the WWE" superstars, using the same claims:
A New Hope: Hulk Hogan. The most important wrestler in the modern- or arguably, full era.
The Empire Strikes Back: The Rock. If anyone could get close to having it all- charisma, look, being the man, and being able to back it up in the ring, it's him.
Return of the Jedi: John Cena. Not one of the best of all time, but still very worthwhile and deserving of being a top guy.
The Phantom Menace: Bret Hart. Considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time by fans and hyped as such, but when he was THE MAN, the WWF came the closest to going bankrupt that it had ever been, and once he went to WCW, the loss of Bret helped spark the Attitude Era and bring the company back- which has to be seen as a black mark against him.
Attack of the Clones: Triple H. He was THE MAN for a large period of time, and had more moments at the top than people give him credit for, but still wasn't really worthy of being THE MAN and had led WWE into a tailspin.
Revenge of the Sith: Shawn Michaels. Most of the same problems Bret Hart had, and was nowhere near the best of all time, but still had slightly more benefits than Bret did as THE MAN. Bonus since he was the mix between one, more cartoony era, and a more beloved, more mature era of the WWF, and didn't even feel out of place in either era.
Star Wars Holiday Special: Chris Benoit- both had the company behind them wash their hands of it.
The Force Awakens: Roman Reigns. It still hasn't come to pass yet, but just the small hints we've seen of it have fans blowing a gasket, in part due to how they've been burned in the past by both.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Dec 26, 2014 22:01:44 GMT -5
Keeping with a theme I'll go with WWF Tag Teams
A New Hope: The most historically or culturally significant - Dudley Boys (Most Tag Titles, Brought Table Matches to the WWF & played a part in the TLC matches)
The Empire Strikes Back: The closest to perfection - Edge & Christian
Return of the Jedi: Not perfect, but lot's of fun with a good resolution - Strike Force
The Phantom Menace: Full of hype, but failed to deliver - The Steiner Brothers
Attack of the Clones: Just sort of there, leaves a lot to be desired - The Bushwackers
Revenge of the Sith: Decent, still kind of fun - The Fabulous Rougeaus
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 26, 2014 22:11:12 GMT -5
I don't even know where to start with this one, but how many wrestlers move like Darth Vader at the end of Revenge of the Sith?
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 26, 2014 22:12:53 GMT -5
The Force Awakens: Roman Reigns. It still hasn't come to pass yet, but just the small hints we've seen of it have fans blowing a gasket, in part due to how they've been burned in the past by both. Bravo with that one.
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Post by Stu on Dec 26, 2014 22:40:06 GMT -5
Going to top-tier "face of the WWE" superstars, using the same claims: A New Hope: Hulk Hogan. The most important wrestler in the modern- or arguably, full era. The Empire Strikes Back: The Rock. If anyone could get close to having it all- charisma, look, being the man, and being able to back it up in the ring, it's him. Return of the Jedi: John Cena. Not one of the best of all time, but still very worthwhile and deserving of being a top guy. The Phantom Menace: Bret Hart. Considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time by fans and hyped as such, but when he was THE MAN, the WWF came the closest to going bankrupt that it had ever been, and once he went to WCW, the loss of Bret helped spark the Attitude Era and bring the company back- which has to be seen as a black mark against him. Attack of the Clones: Triple H. He was THE MAN for a large period of time, and had more moments at the top than people give him credit for, but still wasn't really worthy of being THE MAN and had led WWE into a tailspin. Revenge of the Sith: Shawn Michaels. Most of the same problems Bret Hart had, and was nowhere near the best of all time, but still had slightly more benefits than Bret did as THE MAN. Bonus since he was the mix between one, more cartoony era, and a more beloved, more mature era of the WWF, and didn't even feel out of place in either era. Star Wars Holiday Special: Chris Benoit- both had the company behind them wash their hands of it. The Force Awakens: Roman Reigns. It still hasn't come to pass yet, but just the small hints we've seen of it have fans blowing a gasket, in part due to how they've been burned in the past by both. Good job, especially with Roman Reigns. But you'll get even more points if you determine if Benoit somehow introduced WWE's equivalent to Boba Fett
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Dec 27, 2014 1:09:08 GMT -5
Okay, here's one: NXT = Star Wars: The Clone Wars.
A bit apprehensive about it to begin with, becomes the best/ most fun thing related to the brand in ages
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 27, 2014 2:37:22 GMT -5
Going to top-tier "face of the WWE" superstars, using the same claims: A New Hope: Hulk Hogan. The most important wrestler in the modern- or arguably, full era. The Empire Strikes Back: The Rock. If anyone could get close to having it all- charisma, look, being the man, and being able to back it up in the ring, it's him. Return of the Jedi: John Cena. Not one of the best of all time, but still very worthwhile and deserving of being a top guy. The Phantom Menace: Bret Hart. Considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time by fans and hyped as such, but when he was THE MAN, the WWF came the closest to going bankrupt that it had ever been, and once he went to WCW, the loss of Bret helped spark the Attitude Era and bring the company back- which has to be seen as a black mark against him. Attack of the Clones: Triple H. He was THE MAN for a large period of time, and had more moments at the top than people give him credit for, but still wasn't really worthy of being THE MAN and had led WWE into a tailspin. Revenge of the Sith: Shawn Michaels. Most of the same problems Bret Hart had, and was nowhere near the best of all time, but still had slightly more benefits than Bret did as THE MAN. Bonus since he was the mix between one, more cartoony era, and a more beloved, more mature era of the WWF, and didn't even feel out of place in either era. Star Wars Holiday Special: Chris Benoit- both had the company behind them wash their hands of it. The Force Awakens: Roman Reigns. It still hasn't come to pass yet, but just the small hints we've seen of it have fans blowing a gasket, in part due to how they've been burned in the past by both. Good job, especially with Roman Reigns. But you'll get even more points if you determine if Benoit somehow introduced WWE's equivalent to Boba Fett That goes without saying, though (Warning: Potential Hot Take): Boba Fett, in this scenario, would be Eddie Guerrero. Getting Benoit, the WCW Champion, at the time was the crown jewel that led WWF to take on the Radicalz as a unit (even though most of the other three they signed besides Benoit had some serious black marks [Saturn as a lower-tier guy and tag specialist wrestling singles, Malenko being too old and having no charisma, and Guerrero's drug problems even in WCW], plus the fact that the Radicalz just left WCW in large part because the elephant in the Radicalz' room was they left because they kind of, sort of, tried to unionize to get Vince Russo back in charge- something that'd normally get all five guys in the Radicalz/Shane Douglas blackballed from pro wrestling). Saturn, Malenko, and Guerrero were the throw-ins to get Benoit to jump to the WWF, making them glorified extras to this big star. However, Eddie was so charismatic and so cool that the fans flocked to him, and he became a beloved part of the business, pushing him slowly but surely from a talented midcarder who was a throwin to the Benoit contract to become a top star in his own right, even if even Guerrero himself didn't totally want to be a top guy in the WWE due to the pressure it put him under. Unfortunately, Eddie passed on (which is a bit more tragic and untimely than Boba Fett being thrown into the Sarlacc pit). Both remain beloved legends to this day, even beyond an untimely passing not worthy of a major name like they were. ...also, later on Eddie's legacy gave us Vickie Guerrero and "the wrestling legend" Chavo Guerrero Jr's big pushes, which ended up as aura-shattering for the Guerrero legacy as Attack of the Clones's "The stormtroopers were all clones of Jango Fett, and Boba Fett is merely a glorified stormtrooper clone" thing.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 27, 2014 2:41:44 GMT -5
I have no idea why anyone watches Star Wars or current (2002-until this moment) WWE. I've seen them all. I don't get it.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 27, 2014 3:33:52 GMT -5
Most everything:
"I've got a bad feeling about this"
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Post by Raskovnik on Dec 27, 2014 4:32:50 GMT -5
WrestleMania XXX: A New Hope SummerSlam '14: Empire Strikes Back Survivor Series '14: Return of the Jedi Huh? How long have you been watching? This is just weird to me. Summerslam had like two good matches, three tops, and I'm pushing it for one of those since it was just a glorified squash.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 4:35:48 GMT -5
That one time Cena teamed up with a bunch of jobbers was like the Rebel forces teaming up with the Ewoks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 4:45:12 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase Jr., Alex Riley, CAW-dy Rhodes, etc. = Stormtroopers
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 27, 2014 10:15:42 GMT -5
WrestleMania XXX: A New Hope SummerSlam '14: Empire Strikes Back Survivor Series '14: Return of the Jedi Huh? How long have you been watching? This is just weird to me. Summerslam had like two good matches, three tops, and I'm pushing it for one of those since it was just a glorified squash. I'm talking in terms of their main events.
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Post by TheSchattenjager on Dec 27, 2014 11:04:19 GMT -5
NXT Takeover: R Evolution: A New Hope
Just because of the name.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 27, 2014 11:52:13 GMT -5
HiaC Matches
A New Hope: Undertaker vs HBK It may have been built on an existing concept but felt fresh and set the standard for the rest. Great debut for a hideously burned masked monster.
The Empire Strikes Back: Undertaker vs Mankind Had unbelievable highs that no subsequent entry could ever hope to live up to, however everybody still gets their hopes up whenever there's a new one only to be let down again.
Return of the Jedi: Six-man Hell in a Cell In theory it's on a bigger scale than all that came before but maybe it's all too much and not as good as the previous entries, however it's still a lot of fun. Some feel a certain character didn't fit.
The Phantom Menace: HHH vs Nash There was a massive build up but despite appearances from beloved characters it just wasn't what people wanted.
Attack of the Clones: D-Generation X vs Legacy An awkward love story that seemed to go on for months but at least there's some good visuals and a fun fight at the end.
Revenge of Sith: Seth Rollins vs Ambrose Pretty damn good with lots of nice nods to the past but didn't quite stand out in it's own right.
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