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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 30, 2014 0:47:23 GMT -5
250 pounds? Is WrestleMania on the moon this year? That's actually probably about right, they bill him at 280 and he's been clearly slimming down. Brock Lesnar doesn't even remotely come close to weighing that much. Even when he was fighting in the UFC, he always had to cut weight in order to make the maximum weight of 265 pounds. If he's billed at 280 right now, he probably weighs 280.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 30, 2014 0:48:51 GMT -5
Maybe if somebody made a wager, that would help. Don't push your luck. You made wagers for the guy in an either/or situation and somehow lost both. Be fair, Punk handicapped us. We won that bet up until the eleventh hour. But he's gonna get annihilated in UFC, so I'll call it even.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 30, 2014 0:53:54 GMT -5
Maybe if somebody made a wager, that would help. Quick somebody get Roman some Z-Packs and have Kane chokeslam him through a table!
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Post by gnr123 on Dec 30, 2014 0:55:06 GMT -5
I made a mistake, it's 280, not 250. I don't think's it a reason to start a whole discussion over.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 30, 2014 1:00:03 GMT -5
Honestly, if every Daniel Bryan thread is going to turn out the same way as it did last year, I don't see the point in the discussion. It's the same thing over and over. Generally majority likes Bryan, quiet minority rationally states opinions, few posters go around trying to bait arguments.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 30, 2014 1:00:44 GMT -5
The weight difference is a non-issue, really, because Bryan has already fought bigger guys than Lesnar and beaten them. But none of them had Lesnar's credibility as a shoot fighter and as the guy that broke The Streak and crushed John Cena like a bug. That's the question mark, in my opinion.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 30, 2014 1:00:45 GMT -5
"We need to make sure that neck's healed properly. The surest way is to have someone who might be the next stage in human evolution drop you on your head for twenty minutes." WHY do people think this would be a good idea? Because Brock is safe as f***. The only injury that's happened was when Holly sandbagged him. Brock's a tough guy, who can hurt you, but he's safe in the ring. Cena's had neck problems and look at how Brock threw him around onto his neck, and Cena was perfectly fine. Brock will protect the f*** out of Bryan. He may be leaving for the UFC, but Brock is going to be safe, and he loves wrestling. He won't injure Bryan. Hell, Angle needed neck surgery and Brock didn't rip his head off. I just don't buy Bryan being a threat to Lesnar. He's 175 pounds soaking wet with a brick in his pocket, how in the hell can he legitimately beat the Beast? His speed and striking ability. He can just chop Brock down to the point where then Bryan can lock on submissions, weakening Brock even more.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 30, 2014 1:14:16 GMT -5
The weight difference is a non-issue, really, because Bryan has already fought bigger guys than Lesnar and beaten them. But none of them had Lesnar's credibility as a shoot fighter and as the guy that broke The Streak and crushed John Cena like a bug. That's the question mark, in my opinion. And that's why I'd prefer it NOT be Bryan to be the one to beat the guy. Lesnar's been booked to be a god, with Heyman even saying imagine being able to say "I've been elected God" when describing Lesnar. When someone does finally beat him, I want him to be someone that my suspension of disbelief says "I can buy into this happening." The 185 pound guy coming off of major neck surgery who couldn't use one of his arms for months in no way shape or form does that for me, especially since it feels like something you'd see in a PG movie where the odds are against everyone and the miracle of all miracles happens and the good guys win and all hug it out and everyone crys and yada yada yada. I'd rather we get something different than that this year.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Dec 30, 2014 1:18:38 GMT -5
This kind of locks in the Final Four at the Rumble: - Bryan - Reigns - Rollins - Ambrose
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Post by fw91 on Dec 30, 2014 1:25:40 GMT -5
it really does seem like the only option that feels worthy of a mania main event
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 1:31:01 GMT -5
This kind of locks in the Final Four at the Rumble: - Bryan - Reigns - Rollins - Ambrose I can't see Rollins or Ambrose being in there. Ambrose isn't treated like any sort of actual threat lately, and Rollins has no suspense to it because he has Money in the Bank. I'm thinking the final three will be Reigns, Bryan if he's actually in and they don't reveal it to be a fake-out next week, and Rusev.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 30, 2014 2:35:02 GMT -5
Lesnar needs to drop the title at the Rumble. There are so many rising faces that need to have "main event" matches at Mania, and with Lesnar holding the title, they can really only have one.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 30, 2014 2:41:26 GMT -5
I'd doubt if the same guy would win the title at Mania for a second consecutive year. It's not some anti-Bryan WWE conspiracy either, I don't think anyone would these days. Bryan got his launch pad last year, this year its probably Reign's turn in their eyes. I think the title will end up with Bryan again at some point but I think they're unlikely to go down the deja vu avenue immediately when it comes to Wrestlemania.
This year I also think that Reigns being a 'casual fan perceived theat' to Lesnar make a more intriguing sell for the once-a-yearers than your typical underdog story that was kind of the storyline of last years with Bryan overcoming the odds/Authority etc. As much as I like that for this year I'd prefer a different narrative.
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Post by onestepplan on Dec 30, 2014 2:44:05 GMT -5
I am so, so happy that Bryan's not done for good, I truly am, but good God do I hope he destroys the Authority at Mania. It would be so disheartening if his return cost Ziggler or Ambrose a chance to take down Lesnar. Last year made Bryan. He is top-tier until he retires. This year is a chance to make another guy and populate the upper-echelon with another guy who deserves it. I'm scared that Ziggler, especially, will never get his fair shot on top, and I'm scared that the bullshit Hulk Hogan 'only one guy on top' booking will make Bryan unwatchable like Cena was. There is an entire generation of stars pounding on the glass ceiling, don't just let one guy through and then reseal it.
I know this is kind of a downer post in a thread essentially celebrating Bryan's return, and don't get me wrong, I'm as excited as anyone, but I want the whole new generation to take the reigns and run with Bryan, I don't want him to just get his spot and be another cog. CM Punk couldn't change it by himself, Bryan can't change it by himself, they need to make a statement this year about who's allowed to get to the top.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 3:16:29 GMT -5
Bryan beats Lesnar at mania. Rollins immediately cashs in and wins, then they debut Rollins' new entrance theme which is just a loop of the TROLOLOL song interspersed with picture of Vince's ass on the tron.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 30, 2014 3:33:01 GMT -5
I'd doubt if the same guy would win the title at Mania for a second consecutive year. It's not some anti-Bryan WWE conspiracy either, I don't think anyone would these days. Bryan got his launch pad last year, this year its probably Reign's turn in their eyes. I think the title will end up with Bryan again at some point but I think they're unlikely to go down the deja vu avenue immediately when it comes to Wrestlemania. This year I also think that Reigns being a 'casual fan perceived theat' to Lesnar make a more intriguing sell for the once-a-yearers than your typical underdog story that was kind of the storyline of last years with Bryan overcoming the odds/Authority etc. As much as I like that for this year I'd prefer a different narrative. I get that Bryan maybe shouldn't win the title this year, but in that case who should he wrestle? Bryan never got his proper run on top and he's not in the same position that Cena is in where he can have a nothing mid card match at Mania and still look like a big time player. If Bryan can't wrestle for the title, he needs to be in another match that still feels like a "main event" match. The fans won't accept Bryan being in a filler "get them on the show" match.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 4:00:24 GMT -5
I am so, so happy that Bryan's not done for good, I truly am, but good God do I hope he destroys the Authority at Mania. It would be so disheartening if his return cost Ziggler or Ambrose a chance to take down Lesnar. Last year made Bryan. He is top-tier until he retires. This year is a chance to make another guy and populate the upper-echelon with another guy who deserves it. I'm scared that Ziggler, especially, will never get his fair shot on top, and I'm scared that the bullshit Hulk Hogan 'only one guy on top' booking will make Bryan unwatchable like Cena was. There is an entire generation of stars pounding on the glass ceiling, don't just let one guy through and then reseal it. I know this is kind of a downer post in a thread essentially celebrating Bryan's return, and don't get me wrong, I'm as excited as anyone, but I want the whole new generation to take the reigns and run with Bryan, I don't want him to just get his spot and be another cog. CM Punk couldn't change it by himself, Bryan can't change it by himself, they need to make a statement this year about who's allowed to get to the top. I really don't think Ambrose ever had a chance anyway given how they keep sacrificing him over and over to build up their pet projects, and Ziggler given his history would probably be back to being a jobber about three months after losing the title anyway. Plus I really just don't see the Mania main event thing as a, "You had your turn, now to this guy," kind of thing. There's still a story to be told with Bryan and the crowd's still invested in him, that's good enough for me.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 30, 2014 6:12:49 GMT -5
I never say stuff like this but if Bryan doesn't win the Rumble, I'm done until after Mania. There's just no excuse for anybody else and if it isn't DB, I don't care about their Mania at all.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 30, 2014 15:56:57 GMT -5
I'm flabbergasted that people still think Brock is some kind of unsafe worker for one instance that was almost as much the other guy's fault as it was his.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 30, 2014 16:03:23 GMT -5
Don't push your luck. You made wagers for the guy in an either/or situation and somehow lost both. Be fair, Punk handicapped us. We won that bet up until the eleventh hour. But he's gonna get annihilated in UFC, so I'll call it even. Honestly, even if Punk didn't leave I still see it going the same way with Bryan getting put into the main event and winning. They knew pretty quickly they would have to add Bryan to have a main event that wasn't shit all over. He wouldn't have beaten Triple H earlier in the night, but they still would have done something like Bryan hijacking RAW. (maybe Punk and Bryan do it as a combined effort instead but still)
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