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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 16:32:12 GMT -5
Yeah, it's gonna be a heated thread. Get the popcorn.
Personally I say give Bryan the ball and let him run with it. We know what he can do. In the meantime build Reigns up so that when Bryan can't do it anymore (or at least while Bryan has some years being the guy) you can hand it off to Reigns. Reigns can be "the guy #2" when he's ready.
We need more than 1 "the guy" in the company. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 6, 2015 16:35:51 GMT -5
I don't care who wins. At this point I am ABC (Anybody But Cena).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 16:35:51 GMT -5
I'll level that I do see the issue.... if they could only make stars at WrestleMania. That's not the case. There's really nothing wrong with going with Bryan for Mania and giving the title to Reigns at SummerSlam.
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Post by aliciafoxfan on Jan 6, 2015 16:37:47 GMT -5
Bryan already got his mania moment last year so I am fine with Reigns winning the Rumble.
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Post by RIHT on Jan 6, 2015 16:41:07 GMT -5
Honestly, this thing seems irrelevant and doesn't really say anything. This is basically what most people feel, although I feel more fans side with Bryan.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 6, 2015 16:58:12 GMT -5
I like how there's never any reason given as to why these people think Daniel Bryan shouldn't be a main eventer. He's extremely talented, charismatic, more over than just about any full-timer right now, and is good on the mic. What box is Daniel Bryan not checking on the list of "Things you need to be successful"?
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Post by BigWill on Jan 6, 2015 16:58:31 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter, regardless of what the WWE does. If the WWE decides to go with Bryan instead of Reigns, Reigns will still likely get a push later down the road, assuming he stays over. And if the WWE goes with Reigns to win the Royal Rumble, we'll have to wait till WrestleMania to see if a huge backlash occurs and halts his push.
Either way, it'll be the fans that'll decide whether or not Reigns becomes "the next John Cena", not the WWE.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 6, 2015 17:00:41 GMT -5
I don't care who wins. At this point I am ABC (Anybody But Cena). There are lots of guys who are Not Cena. And there are better Not Cena's than Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 17:03:10 GMT -5
I like how there's never any reason given as to why these people think Daniel Bryan shouldn't be a main eventer. He's extremely talented, charismatic, more over than just about any full-timer right now, and is good on the mic. What box is Daniel Bryan not checking on the list of "Things you need to be successful"? Not tall and not muscular, that's basically it. Because I guess it's better to ignore how he had two matches on the best received Mania in years and the most-watched one ever.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 6, 2015 17:04:12 GMT -5
If its anyone but Bryan, the crowd is gonna turn similar to how they did last year. The crowd has made it quite clear that's who they want at WM.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 6, 2015 17:05:21 GMT -5
I like how there's never any reason given as to why these people think Daniel Bryan shouldn't be a main eventer. He's extremely talented, charismatic, more over than just about any full-timer right now, and is good on the mic. What box is Daniel Bryan not checking on the list of "Things you need to be successful"? Not tall and not muscular, that's basically it. Because I guess it's better to ignore how he had two matches on the best received Mania in years and the most-watched one ever. Or the fact that his three-word catchphrase has transcended wrestling and entered other venues.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 17:06:06 GMT -5
We need more than 1 "the guy" in the company. yes.gif 16 years ago we had The Rock and Stone Cold; I don't see why the WWE today can only have one "mascot."
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 6, 2015 17:08:25 GMT -5
The more leaks there are like this, the more convinced I get that neither of these guys is gonna win.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 6, 2015 17:08:25 GMT -5
Ah yes...Bryan is a huge risk.
You know what else is a huge risk? Putting the weight of company on the shoulders of a guy who clearly isn't ready for it yet. Maybe you should hold off on that "passing of the torch" until you have someone who IS qualified to be your top guy for the next several years. Until then, do what's best for business NOW.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jan 6, 2015 17:09:20 GMT -5
Ah yes...Bryan is a huge risk. You know what else is a huge risk? Putting the weight of company on the shoulders of a guy who clearly isn't ready for it yet. Maybe you should hold off on that "passing of the torch" until you have someone who IS qualified to be your top guy for the next several years. Until then, do what's best for business NOW. I mean, Bryan IS a huge risk. I agree with you completely though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 17:14:32 GMT -5
Ah yes...Bryan is a huge risk. You know what else is a huge risk? Putting the weight of company on the shoulders of a guy who clearly isn't ready for it yet. Maybe you should hold off on that "passing of the torch" until you have someone who IS qualified to be your top guy for the next several years. Until then, do what's best for business NOW. I kind of understand why they want to try and rush Reigns, given it's hard telling when Cena might go down given his laundry list of injuries and the constant wear and tear he must be dealing with. A significant chunk of 2014 was them having to awkwardly try and work around Cena being the only top face left after Bryan got injured and Punk left, and the show was pretty terrible for it; having a clear alternative they can use in place of him isn't a bad idea. But, you'd think they'd learn by now that these forced pushes before the crowd actually wants somebody to be pushed just plain do not work, and they can survive well enough for a time without a definite top guy. That's why I say give the Mania title win to Bryan or Ziggler (would say Ambrose, but he's been run so far into the ground he's hopeless for the time being), just have Reigns do something big on the show, and see if by SummerSlam or Mania 32 he's over enough, good enough in the ring, and passable on the mic. If he is, then go ahead and let him run with it, but now is not the time to do it.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 6, 2015 17:17:43 GMT -5
Bryan is still a huge risk, Im not 100% convinced that he is healthy
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Post by Deadman Inc on Jan 6, 2015 17:18:28 GMT -5
I like how there's never any reason given as to why these people think Daniel Bryan shouldn't be a main eventer. He's extremely talented, charismatic, more over than just about any full-timer right now, and is good on the mic. What box is Daniel Bryan not checking on the list of "Things you need to be successful"? He's not a hoss. And Reigns is. And honestly, if that is the reason, than it seems pretty transparent to be from the old guard of people in charge of the main roster. If you look at NXT, plenty of people Bryan's size are being pushed (example: Zayn). Hell, of all the premier talent in NXT right now, there really aren't many hosses at all. Most of the guys are of smaller, faster stock. The guys that are being pushed like they are (Ascension aside) really aren't (Corbin and Bull). To me, this is just another reason that HHH needs to take over the main roster booking 100% too. It's time for Vince to take his hands off, and his lackeys to be sent on their way. Don't get me wrong, I like Reigns. But he isn't anywhere near Bryan's level in any catagory. He needs more time to flesh out his move set, personality, and ring work. People criticize Orton for his face mic work, but I don't think Reigns is any better. He's just a power house with a flying punch and spear right now. They need to give him more time to polish up as a solo act.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 17:21:15 GMT -5
I like how there's never any reason given as to why these people think Daniel Bryan shouldn't be a main eventer. He's extremely talented, charismatic, more over than just about any full-timer right now, and is good on the mic. What box is Daniel Bryan not checking on the list of "Things you need to be successful"? He's not a hoss. And Reigns is. And honestly, if that is the reason, than it seems pretty transparent to be from the old guard of people in charge of the main roster. If you look at NXT, plenty of people Bryan's size are being pushed (example: Zayn). Hell, of all the premier talent in NXT right now, there really aren't many hosses at all. Most of the guys are of smaller, faster stock. The guys that are being pushed like they are (Ascension aside) really aren't (Corbin and Bull). To me, this is just another reason that HHH needs to take over the main roster booking 100% too. It's time for Vince to take his hands off, and his lackeys to be sent on their way. Don't get me wrong, I like Reigns. But he isn't anywhere near Bryan's level in any catagory. He needs more time to flesh out both his move set, personality, and ring work. People criticize Orton for his face mic work, but I don't think Reigns is any better. He's just a power house with a flying punch and spear right now. They need to give him more time to polish up as a solo act. I guess to be fair last night did show him seemingly having developed a personality. As an annoying Cena clone but still.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 6, 2015 17:28:29 GMT -5
^They shouldn't have buried/depushed all their former champs. All those guys who were in the "main event" during the days of two titles should've been holding down the fort until Reigns was ready.
Ziggler should already be on top "by default" rather than us waiting for him to be "made".
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