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Post by xCompackx on Jan 13, 2015 20:40:45 GMT -5
I guess this thread is inspired by the Transformers movies, but what do you consider to be more valuable when a movie (especially one based on comic books or other media) comes out? Obviously the critic reviews are the ones printed most often, but the general public are who buy tickets, DVDs/Blu-Rays, etc.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Jan 13, 2015 20:43:18 GMT -5
I tend to pay attention to both, because there are plenty of variables when it comes to opinions in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 13, 2015 20:59:18 GMT -5
The critics because the real ones, not those who just rant online, but those who know and study the art form of cinema and understand film have a view that I like to hear.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 13, 2015 21:14:35 GMT -5
It honestly depends on the type of movie to be real honest. I almost never trust what someone in the general public says about a movie unless I know that their movie taste is pretty similar to mine. At the same time, often critics won't take genre or intent of a film into account during their reviews.
So it varies.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Jan 13, 2015 21:14:41 GMT -5
Both. I've read critics that have completely missed the point and I've read fans who are just hell spent on tearing the movie down.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 13, 2015 21:15:17 GMT -5
The thing is, are reviews are a crap shoot. It's common knowledge that companies pay to have fake reviews put out there, and even if they aren't paid, there are still people who will legitimately believe that The Dogfather is one of the best movies ever made, as well as those who have an opinion of a movie only based on what said popular person thought of it.
Reviewers have to keep a name on stuff, so spotting bullshit is easier, but there are also penty of situations where reviewers may ve already decided the review of a movie, may not be the target audience, or may just be full of themselves.
Overall, I think reviewer aggregates tend to be beter indicative, or if I find a reviewer whose tasts mimic my own.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 13, 2015 21:27:19 GMT -5
It honestly depends on the type of movie to be real honest. I almost never trust what someone in the general public says about a movie unless I know that their movie taste is pretty similar to mine. At the same time, often critics won't take genre or intent of a film into account during their reviews. So it varies. This is one thing Roger Ebert often tried to do. In practice it didn't work so well, as he considered The Mummy 3 to be the best in the series.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 13, 2015 21:29:31 GMT -5
It honestly depends on the type of movie to be real honest. I almost never trust what someone in the general public says about a movie unless I know that their movie taste is pretty similar to mine. At the same time, often critics won't take genre or intent of a film into account during their reviews. So it varies. This is one thing Roger Ebert often tried to do. In practice it didn't work so well, as he considered The Mummy 3 to be the best in the series. Agreed. Ebert was one of the critics I trusted most, both for his quality of knowledge and as you said how he kept in mind what type of film he was viewing.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 13, 2015 21:43:25 GMT -5
I miss Ebert for this reason. I usually use Rotten tomatoes, failing that, I'll check and see which of my friends have seen it.
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Post by Crimson on Jan 13, 2015 21:46:52 GMT -5
It depends. Because of the positive buzz it was getting over the summer, I ended up checking out Snowpiercer to see what all the hype was about. Same with Edge of Tomorrow. In some cases though, I just don't bother. Like when Pain and Gain was released; you had critics (and even internet critics ironically enough) slamming the movie for being morally appalling. Those same critics would go on to praise the hell out of Wolf of Wall Street.
I do believe there are cases where "critical snobbery" is in full effect.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 13, 2015 21:48:26 GMT -5
For the record I'd take The Beat over General Public though I will take General Public over Fine Young Cannibals.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 13, 2015 22:20:26 GMT -5
There are certain "critics" I listen to, yes.
It's hard to find middle ground with critics. To me, most of them tend to:
1 - Hate everything except pretentious bullshit
or
2 - Blindly love everything.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 14, 2015 2:58:05 GMT -5
I refer to people who I consider to have similar tastes and likes to me. That includes the critics I pay most attention to.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 14, 2015 6:54:26 GMT -5
Neither. Critics like what they like, the public likes what they like. I read the spoilers instead and decide whether I'll pay money to watch it, wait until it's released on home media, or ignore it altogether.
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Post by Rubix Cube Johnny on Jan 14, 2015 7:04:55 GMT -5
I can go either way on this. For example I like the movie Equilibrium, and even though the critics slated it, it has a pretty high IMDB score. But on the other hand I hate The Boondock Saints, and I agree with the critics that it's a faux-tarantino piece of plastic-paddy shit. Yet the users of IMDB scored it high to.
So in conclusion, boondock saints sucks.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jan 14, 2015 7:08:42 GMT -5
Depends on the subject. Let's take two recent films like Whiplash & The Turtles Movie.
Whiplash is a possible oscar nominee film about a jazz band drummer trying to be great and clashing with a jazz maestro professor.
The TMNT film is a reboot of the franchise with Micheal Bay producing.
I am not going to the same sources for opinions on these two movies. For Whiplash I want to know if it's any good or is it just an arty Oscar bait film. For the turtles movie I want to know if it's faithful to the source material or a mess. I already know the highbrow critic of whiplash will condemn the turtles movie anyway for being junk action to sell merchandise so I don't need that kind of review.
General public opinion is hit or miss in my opinion and easily influenced by the media.
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on Jan 14, 2015 7:30:19 GMT -5
Critics tend to shit all over the movies I like so if there's one I want to see I'll generally check if they've tore it a new one.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 14, 2015 8:52:43 GMT -5
Depends. If a movie is under 40% on Rotten Tomatoes I tend to avoid it, but there are times when something I'm looking forward to obviously isn't made for critics (some of the Fast films, though the last two got good receptions). Either that or I'm going to see the movie just to make fun of it later (TMNT 2014).
Sometimes the genre determines how often I'll listen to critics. With games I try to pay attention to reviewers and LPers because badly programmed games are so unsubjectively bad IMO, while movies and television are more mixed bags (especially with the fake stuff floating out there, as mentioned). But I almost never trust music critics, I've heard too many "disposable" pop songs that moved me in some way.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 14, 2015 9:32:56 GMT -5
Speaking as a critic, I try to be all things to all men with this kind of thing.
Before I write a review, I ask myself two question: Who is this for? Would they like it?
Those are the ONLY QUESTIONS that really matter in a review. If you're going to the movies to see Sylvester Stallone murderin' people, then you're not going to like Les Mis very much now, now are you? I mean obviously people's tastes are often broader than that, but still.
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 14, 2015 9:46:06 GMT -5
Usually the critics. The general public made Meet the Spartans #1 at the box office for a week.
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