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Post by Urethra Franklin on May 18, 2015 4:17:40 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that Mike would be the most deserving winner with Carolyn as runner-up.
Will, Rodney and Cierra have done nothing at all that would justify a victory. Sure, you can argue that surviving this long is an accomplishment, but that trio is mostly there because nobody considers them a threat.
If Mike or Carolyn doesn't win, it'd be a travesty.
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Post by Waffel113 on May 18, 2015 9:08:25 GMT -5
Way late to this, but I filled out my ballot. {Spoiler}Women: Kelly, T-Bird, Peih-Gee, Sabrina, Abi-Maria (Sorry, both of them won me over with their videos), Ciera, Tasha, Kass, Shirin, Carolyn Men: Jeff, Andrew, Shane, Stephen, Vytas, Spencer, Woo, Keith, Joe, Mike (I didn't want to because I feel like he's winning, but damn if his video didn't convince me).
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Post by RadcapRadsley on May 18, 2015 19:25:24 GMT -5
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Post by Spider2024 on May 18, 2015 19:36:41 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that Mike would be the most deserving winner with Carolyn as runner-up. Will, Rodney and Cierra have done nothing at all that would justify a victory. Sure, you can argue that surviving this long is an accomplishment, but that trio is mostly there because nobody considers them a threat. If Mike or Carolyn doesn't win, it'd be a travesty. I'm not really a fan of Carolyn, but she is one of only 2 that wouldn't make sucky winners. And I actually sort of like Rodney (because he's from Boston, I automatically root for him) but he would be a pretty ridiculous winner. Speaking hypothetically, if the final 3 were somehow Rodney/Will/Ciara, who do you all think would get the win?
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Post by Waffel113 on May 19, 2015 8:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by MGH on May 19, 2015 9:00:17 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that Mike would be the most deserving winner with Carolyn as runner-up. Will, Rodney and Cierra have done nothing at all that would justify a victory. Sure, you can argue that surviving this long is an accomplishment, but that trio is mostly there because nobody considers them a threat. If Mike or Carolyn doesn't win, it'd be a travesty. I'm not really a fan of Carolyn, but she is one of only 2 that wouldn't make sucky winners. And I actually sort of like Rodney (because he's from Boston, I automatically root for him) but he would be a pretty ridiculous winner. Speaking hypothetically, if the final 3 were somehow Rodney/Will/Ciara, who do you all think would get the win?Sierra, and I've actually been saying to my friend for two weeks now that I think Sierra is going to win this game. Not because she's the best player or the most deserving, but because I think the Final 3 will end up being what you just said, and everyone will opt to punish Will and Rodney.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on May 19, 2015 9:44:16 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of Carolyn, but she is one of only 2 that wouldn't make sucky winners. And I actually sort of like Rodney (because he's from Boston, I automatically root for him) but he would be a pretty ridiculous winner. Speaking hypothetically, if the final 3 were somehow Rodney/Will/Ciara, who do you all think would get the win?Sierra, and I've actually been saying to my friend for two weeks now that I think Sierra is going to win this game. Not because she's the best player or the most deserving, but because I think the Final 3 will end up being what you just said, and everyone will opt to punish Will and Rodney. Sierra. That puts Mike and Carolyn on the jury. I think only Dan of the jurors has any respect for the horrid game Rod and Will played. Sierra will cry and being surrounded by such bullies/assholes she will get sympathy votes so fast, because everyone else knows the hell she had to go through to survive as long as she has. I think Will or Rodney may cry too and talk about birthdays/loved ones but nobody cares for them because they've been so abrasive to everyone. It's a social game at the end. If Will or Rodney they need the other on the jury and hope Mike or Mama C fails hard at the final jury and splits votes with Sierra.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 17:33:53 GMT -5
So... this has nothing to do with the current season, but still... I'm currently playing Heroes vs. Villains on my iPod during walks. Someone explain this to me: How are Cirie, Candice, and Amanda considered heroes? Candice mutinied against her tribe, and while Penner did as well, he did so out of loyalty to his original tribe alliance. Candice did so to get back with her old tribemates and in doing so, put herself at the bottom and proceeded to cry that the Aitu 4 were being mean when they kept sending her to Exile as punishment. And Amanda and Cirie were part of the Black Widow Brigade along with Parvati. And it's arguable that Cirie was the true mastermind behind their big moves. She was the one who orchestrated the blindsides of Ozzy and Jason, and the one who came up with the idea to get Erik to give his immunity to Natalie. Amanda, I actually can't define her one way or another. It's like she was brought back because she looks good in a bikini. And also, how are Courtney and Sandra villains? Courtney defied the odds and made it to the end, despite the stronger members of her tribe gunning for her from day one. And Sandra won the game, despite having no strategy beyond "anyone but me" simply by being good at the social aspect. Wouldn't they be heroic for pulling off what they did despite easily fitting the mold for early boots? And if Courtney IS a villain, what about Amanda, who was aligned with her for most of China? It really seemed like they just couldn't think of enough memorable women, so they threw a bunch in with no real regard for where they fit. I know Corinne wasn't available for that season, but what about Ami? She fit the villain mode perfectly her first season. For heroes... I have no idea. Most of the ones I can think of were ones who simply wouldn't have come back(Janu, Elisabeth) or I wouldn't have wanted to see back(Eliza, Tina). And since I'm here, I've read that at one point, the gimmick for Philippines was going to be having three strong women return, with Stephenie being one of them. Who would've been the other two? I'd have liked to see Kelly from Borneo, but who else would've been good candidates? Or likely chosen?
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 19, 2015 17:40:17 GMT -5
So... this has nothing to do with the current season, but still... I'm currently playing Heroes vs. Villains on my iPod during walks. Someone explain this to me: How are Cirie, Candice, and Amanda considered heroes? Candice mutinied against her tribe, and while Penner did as well, he did so out of loyalty to his original tribe alliance. Candice did so to get back with her old tribemates and in doing so, put herself at the bottom and proceeded to cry that the Aitu 4 were being mean when they kept sending her to Exile as punishment. And Amanda and Cirie were part of the Black Widow Brigade along with Parvati. And it's arguable that Cirie was the true mastermind behind their big moves. She was the one who orchestrated the blindsides of Ozzy and Jason, and the one who came up with the idea to get Erik to give his immunity to Natalie. Amanda, I actually can't define her one way or another. It's like she was brought back because she looks good in a bikini. And also, how are Courtney and Sandra villains? Courtney defied the odds and made it to the end, despite the stronger members of her tribe gunning for her from day one. And Sandra won the game, despite having no strategy beyond "anyone but me" simply by being good at the social aspect. Wouldn't they be heroic for pulling off what they did despite easily fitting the mold for early boots? And if Courtney IS a villain, what about Amanda, who was aligned with her for most of China? It really seemed like they just couldn't think of enough memorable women, so they threw a bunch in with no real regard for where they fit. I know Corinne wasn't available for that season, but what about Ami? She fit the villain mode perfectly her first season. For heroes... I have no idea. Most of the ones I can think of were ones who simply wouldn't have come back(Janu, Elisabeth) or I wouldn't have wanted to see back(Eliza, Tina). And since I'm here, I've read that at one point, the gimmick for Philippines was going to be having three strong women return, with Stephenie being one of them. Who would've been the other two? I'd have liked to see Kelly from Borneo, but who else would've been good candidates? Or likely chosen? Sandra had a potty mouth...that's literally the explanation they give for her. Courtney had very sassy and mean confessionals in China. Amanda and Cirie were really well liked in their first seasons, or at least Cirie was. Amanda did that whole deal with the crying but really having the idol while she overcame the odds and whatnot. Candice...I have nothing.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 17:56:29 GMT -5
So... this has nothing to do with the current season, but still... I'm currently playing Heroes vs. Villains on my iPod during walks. Someone explain this to me: How are Cirie, Candice, and Amanda considered heroes? Candice mutinied against her tribe, and while Penner did as well, he did so out of loyalty to his original tribe alliance. Candice did so to get back with her old tribemates and in doing so, put herself at the bottom and proceeded to cry that the Aitu 4 were being mean when they kept sending her to Exile as punishment. And Amanda and Cirie were part of the Black Widow Brigade along with Parvati. And it's arguable that Cirie was the true mastermind behind their big moves. She was the one who orchestrated the blindsides of Ozzy and Jason, and the one who came up with the idea to get Erik to give his immunity to Natalie. Amanda, I actually can't define her one way or another. It's like she was brought back because she looks good in a bikini. And also, how are Courtney and Sandra villains? Courtney defied the odds and made it to the end, despite the stronger members of her tribe gunning for her from day one. And Sandra won the game, despite having no strategy beyond "anyone but me" simply by being good at the social aspect. Wouldn't they be heroic for pulling off what they did despite easily fitting the mold for early boots? And if Courtney IS a villain, what about Amanda, who was aligned with her for most of China? It really seemed like they just couldn't think of enough memorable women, so they threw a bunch in with no real regard for where they fit. I know Corinne wasn't available for that season, but what about Ami? She fit the villain mode perfectly her first season. For heroes... I have no idea. Most of the ones I can think of were ones who simply wouldn't have come back(Janu, Elisabeth) or I wouldn't have wanted to see back(Eliza, Tina). And since I'm here, I've read that at one point, the gimmick for Philippines was going to be having three strong women return, with Stephenie being one of them. Who would've been the other two? I'd have liked to see Kelly from Borneo, but who else would've been good candidates? Or likely chosen? Sandra had a potty mouth...that's literally the explanation they give for her. Courtney had very sassy and mean confessionals in China. Amanda and Cirie were really well liked in their first seasons, or at least Cirie was. Amanda did that whole deal with the crying but really having the idol while she overcame the odds and whatnot. Candice...I have nothing. See, Sandra and Courtney are the types of players I'd root for. Sandra had nothing going for her as far as physical strength went, but she had the social skills to keep herself off the chopping block and get the people who she voted out to write her name down at the end. And Courtney's confessionals were the best part of a boring ass season. How the hell was Amanda well-liked? I'm probably in the minority, but I don't see how anyone could want to watch her play again. And that idol play... I class that as a deception, which is villanous. A great move, yes, but it's definitely something out of the villains playbook. And Cirie, she was the puppetmaster. She perpetrated blindsides in both her seasons to get ahead. Yeah, she's the typical house mom fan who actually got off the couch and played the game, and I get how people would like that. But she really didn't play a hero's game.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 19, 2015 18:07:31 GMT -5
Basically, Survivor doesn't have very fleshed out, memorable women characters to fill a themed all star season. They had to reach.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 18:24:14 GMT -5
Basically, Survivor doesn't have very fleshed out, memorable women characters to fill a themed all star season. They had to reach. Not so much that they don't have anyone, it's that the ones they have don't want or don't need to come back. It's the Amandas and the Parvatis and the Candices that will do anything to extend their 15 minutes of fame. Contrast that with someone like Elisabeth, who found success outside the game and has no reason to return. The ones who do come back do so because it's all they have. But it's frustrating when you have a season like that, where the men they chose are great, and some of the women make sense, like Parvati, Steph, and Sugar, but for the most part, they took what they could get.
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Post by fw91 on May 19, 2015 18:42:42 GMT -5
Basically, Survivor doesn't have very fleshed out, memorable women characters to fill a themed all star season. They had to reach. but there is a way to meet the middle and not throw in these early boots Alicia(One world) RC Shambo Ashley(Redemption Island) Crystal (Gabon) Taj Natalie (Micronesia) Edna all weren't on the ballot
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 19, 2015 18:54:38 GMT -5
Basically, Survivor doesn't have very fleshed out, memorable women characters to fill a themed all star season. They had to reach. but there is a way to meet the middle and not throw in these early boots Alicia(One world) RC Shambo Ashley(Redemption Island) Crystal (Gabon) Taj Natalie (Micronesia) Edna all weren't on the ballot This was meant in regards to Heroes vs. Villains, though. Also, RC actually refused to come back this time, and Shambo turned down a past season, as well. Natalie was an alternate on HvF and as far as I know, Taj has wanted to come back for a while.
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Post by fw91 on May 19, 2015 18:58:57 GMT -5
but there is a way to meet the middle and not throw in these early boots Alicia(One world) RC Shambo Ashley(Redemption Island) Crystal (Gabon) Taj Natalie (Micronesia) Edna all weren't on the ballot This was meant in regards to Heroes vs. Villains, though. Also, RC actually refused to come back this time, and Shambo turned down a past season, as well. Natalie was an alternate on HvF and as far as I know, Taj has wanted to come back for a while. oh, well I thought Heroes vs Villains was cast quite well.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:26:54 GMT -5
This was meant in regards to Heroes vs. Villains, though. Also, RC actually refused to come back this time, and Shambo turned down a past season, as well. Natalie was an alternate on HvF and as far as I know, Taj has wanted to come back for a while. oh, well I thought Heroes vs Villains was cast quite well. My issue was certain people(i.e. THE WOMEN) being on the wrong tribes. If nothing else, Candice was horribly miscast, especially when you consider that Penner was originally going to be on the Villain's tribe.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on May 20, 2015 8:58:44 GMT -5
Didn't watch this season at all until recently. Marathon-ed through the whole season this past weekend. Hyped for the finale now.
Thoughts: I started to like the season at the beginning, but then it looked like every likable contestant was getting eliminated one after another (Max, Kelly, Hali, Joe, Jenn, Shirin) with everybody left being or becoming incredibly unlikable, every irritating contestant managing to survive and getting WORSE as the season goes along (Dan, Rodney, Will: ALL GROSS PEOPLE).
I was fearing a boring arse Pagonging in the merge, where people I don't like keep surviving every episode. For what it's worse, that is THE number 1 thing that makes me tune out of watching survivor for the rest of the season and never look back: A clear Pagonging of one group over the other every episode. Which is why CAGAYAN S28 and GABON S17 were so awesome, because they avoided that pitfall and had interesting characters to boot!
Season 30 seemed to be turning me off, and the show was turning into such a bore/chore, but luckily my interest came back because it felt like MIKE was single-handedly making the merge interesting again when he went Rogue and started fighting his own alliance who he had caught that had turned against him. And Mama C has actually joined in, in making it better, after being likable at first, then turning into a crotchety hagress playing part in taking out everyone I liked and then turning likable again out of nowhere when she started siding with Mike and eliminating Dan from the show.
So, luckily those last few episodes has turned me back in favor of the show, and I'm hoping the show ends up on a good note with one of these two, deservedly winning.
Rodney, Will, Sierra is YUCK for a final 3.
Will/Rodney are disgusting and I hope somehow Sierra continues being an idiot and sides with Mike/Mama C for the benefit of my entertainment.
Sierra, started off pretty good, as being an outcasted swing vote, but lost all my good-will toward her, when she sided with the people she hated and became a weak-willed follower/zombie with absolutely NO BACKBONE in the game to make any moves. Those are the 2nd worst kind of contestants on Survivor outside of the absolutely VILE personalities, because they just ruin my enjoyment of the show, by doing nothing and just helping along numbers and playing for like 6th, 5th, 4th, or 3rd, because they can't think for themselves.
Otherwise I'd prefer Sierra win over Will/Rodney. Though, I suppose Rodney has the best game of those three. He's just so douchey though!
Mike or Mama C FTW, Please!
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Post by RadcapRadsley on May 20, 2015 12:32:24 GMT -5
Basically, Survivor doesn't have very fleshed out, memorable women characters to fill a themed all star season. They had to reach. Weirdly the reason for that is a woman Stephanie LaGrossa. As her edit in Guatemala was kind of the testcase for the revolve the edit around 1,2 or 3 big charecter seasons we mostly got from the dark timeline in the Survivor Samoa to Caramoan era.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on May 20, 2015 12:48:15 GMT -5
Basically, Survivor doesn't have very fleshed out, memorable women characters to fill a themed all star season. They had to reach. Not so much that they don't have anyone, it's that the ones they have don't want or don't need to come back. It's the Amandas and the Parvatis and the Candices that will do anything to extend their 15 minutes of fame. Contrast that with someone like Elisabeth, who found success outside the game and has no reason to return. The ones who do come back do so because it's all they have. But it's frustrating when you have a season like that, where the men they chose are great, and some of the women make sense, like Parvati, Steph, and Sugar, but for the most part, they took what they could get. Interestingly Candice was offered a spot on Micronesia but had to decline cause she was in medical school and the only reason the biggest female icon of the show Parvati exists is because of that. Parvati was insanely underedited in Cook Islands and Candice's mutiny was the biggest event of the season and she was kind of the only female in the 2 race seasons who lasted a long time and had a non invisible edit. That's why when they throw someone like Monica onto the 2nd chance list I think she has potential to be a great player because her relatively low visibilty edit the 1st time is because Russell and Shambo got 80% of the cameratime in Samoa. That season a even the 2 people in the finals with Russell had a Purple Kelly edit.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 13:57:30 GMT -5
#RootingForRodney
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