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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 7:09:18 GMT -5
Be amazed if Midnighter makes it to issue 15 honestly. Hey, it's already past where TELOS - a book spun out of the big 2015 DC event - will ever get. Even LOIS & CLARK, the most "successful" (or maybe just acclaimed) Convergence spinoff, won't live as long as MIDNIGHTER; because unlike the Superman book, MIDNIGHTER will see a #9. DC doesn't do everything right, sure, but they are able to keep certain books alive a lot longer than they probably (saleswise) should. And honestly, even announcing a book is cancelled is more respectful to the book & its audience than just letting it end with no advance notice (an unfortunate Marvel tactic which comes up more often than not these days).
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 18, 2016 12:31:31 GMT -5
I really dig that that it's young Pharus that has developed a backbone and is standing up to Namor in the daily strip, convincing him Spidey of all people would be a good person to lead a new age of understanding between Atlanteans and Humans. Some people will complain that Peter got bailed out of another scrape like he normally does in this strip, but for me, I look at the fact it took the courage of Peter AND MJ trying to help the young boy in their own ways that ultimately made him see that there is good in humanity and that it inspired him to argue on Spidey's behalf. Finsihed cover for Iron Man#6 and the solit:
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 18, 2016 17:01:23 GMT -5
Let me see. Character will be a woman but not white. Sole defining feature will be that she is a woman and independent. No internal conflict or emotion or any type of drama. Name one example. ONE.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 18, 2016 19:17:03 GMT -5
So Spider-Gwen, Silk, and Spider-Woman going to be in a 8 part crossover
SPIDER-WOMEN ALPHA #1 Story by JASON LATOUR, DENNIS HOPELESS & ROBBIE THOMPSON ROBBIE THOMPSON (W) • VANESA DEL REY (A) Cover by YASMINE PUTRI CONNECTING VARIANT COVER A BY J. SCOTT CAMPBELL VARIANT COVER BY STACEY LEE ACTION FIGURE VARIANT COVER BY JOHN TYLER CHRISTOPHER SPIDER-WOMEN PART 1! The Spider-Event of 2016 is here, bringing SPIDER-GWEN, SILK and SPIDER-WOMAN together for a story too big for any one of their books! Spider-Woman is taking a mentor-role with Silk and Spider-Gwen, and the three spider-heroes take a brunch break on Gwen’s Earth-65. But when the nefarious spy organization S.I.L.K. and their leader (Earth-65’s Cindy Moon) notice the interdimensional interlopers, all of Jessica Drew’s plans go wrong.
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Post by knightrider01 on Jan 18, 2016 20:23:06 GMT -5
Let me see. Character will be a woman but not white. Sole defining feature will be that she is a woman and independent. No internal conflict or emotion or any type of drama. Name one example. ONE. Carol Danvers whose entire history of being an alcoholic failed superhero who was constantly damaged from multiple mind wipes and a series of horrific events was then...mind wiped again so all that stuff no longer has any consequence to her because it would get in the way of her being Marvel's Wonder Woman. If they had a story were Carol came over all of that adversity and then realized that she could be a better person and a better hero thus taking the Captain Marvel title, okay. Instead she got a haircut, a new costume, and Steve Rogers said, "No, you are the Captain Marvel."
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Post by knightrider01 on Jan 18, 2016 20:29:01 GMT -5
Oh neither do I my point is that usually Marvel just makes the change and...that's it. Nothing new or exciting just a character who is there and nothing else. I mean yes they got it right with Ms. Marvel. But everything else is just a bunch of writers not even trying and then shouting names at anyone who doesn't like it. I could also make the point that back in the 90's a bunch of different black writers and artists got together and made something completely new and original, in the Milestone Universe, and perhaps it is best to create something than just copy something. I know that ultimately it would fail because comic readers are a fickle bunch who don't like new things. But at least some one should try, like DC, and fail instead of going on the View and talking about breasts for 15 minutes. Okay, I get what you mean now. Yeah, I'd definitely agree with that although I'd say they got it right with Miles too but yeah if you're going to bother making a new character of a different race at least make it matter and make the character mean something. I wouldn't say DC is completely innocent with it either although they do it a lot less than Marvel. I remember them making Wally West black or some such in Flash and the gay Green Lantern in Earth 2 but I don't follow either of those series so I don't know how that turned out. You know when you and legion are right, you are right. DC did do those things too and I shouldn't ignore them. I just forgot about them. I try and forget new Wally, who's skin color doesn't even bother me but his lack of being Wally sure as hell does. And Alan Scott, I dropped Earth 2 after Robinson left. It stopped being the book we had and just turned into another Superman/Batman book. But with the DCYou, I really felt like something changed. The stories are just better. Lets be honest who would have thought that the book to signal a kind of resurgence of quality would be a Dick Grayson spy book. Also I would agree with you on Miles but the thing that irks me about him is that his "Uncle Ben" moment of realizing that his powers also come with responsibility was erased by the character who inspired that being brought back. With him now in the main 616 it makes even less sense. With him being a Spider-Man he needs that type of loss to drive him.
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Post by knightrider01 on Jan 18, 2016 20:36:34 GMT -5
Let me see. Character will be a woman but not white. Sole defining feature will be that she is a woman and independent. No internal conflict or emotion or any type of drama. Name one example. ONE. Also I am going to throw Sam Wilson out there. Now I know that some of like the new book and I can see some good spots in there, but there is still too many things that bug me about him being Captain America. I still think Steve should have given the position to Eli, that way Sam gets to remain his own character with out Marvel putting him in that role because they are scared to do a solo Falcon book, and reintroduce a younger more hot headed Captain. Second that outfit is awful. It's like some sort of weird amalgamation of two different heroes put together. And to get back on topic I hate how they suddenly changed Steve's stance on something in order to create a conflict between two best friends that doesn't make any sense. I get that Steve is from another time and Sam is suppose to be the modern voice for a new world who is trying to make a real change. But the fact that Marvel is doing a sequel to a story, that just came out 10 years ago, where Steve broke the law in a huge way, is now okay with following laws he would never agree with is stupid. Also the political stuff in the book is being handled poorly. I get that Nick Spence wants to put his beliefs into the book, but it is becoming obvious he is only doing it to get a row out of people and I am just tired of that crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 20:50:51 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 18, 2016 21:48:28 GMT -5
Be amazed if Midnighter makes it to issue 15 honestly. Hey, it's already past where TELOS - a book spun out of the big 2015 DC event - will ever get. Even LOIS & CLARK, the most "successful" (or maybe just acclaimed) Convergence spinoff, won't live as long as MIDNIGHTER; because unlike the Superman book, MIDNIGHTER will see a #9. DC doesn't do everything right, sure, but they are able to keep certain books alive a lot longer than they probably (saleswise) should. And honestly, even announcing a book is cancelled is more respectful to the book & its audience than just letting it end with no advance notice (an unfortunate Marvel tactic which comes up more often than not these days). Yeah, sometimes they do keep a book around longer than they should saleswise... off the top of my head they allowed The Movement to have it's full 12 promised issues when it didn't sell well at all from my understanding.
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Post by knightrider01 on Jan 18, 2016 22:41:36 GMT -5
Hey, it's already past where TELOS - a book spun out of the big 2015 DC event - will ever get. Even LOIS & CLARK, the most "successful" (or maybe just acclaimed) Convergence spinoff, won't live as long as MIDNIGHTER; because unlike the Superman book, MIDNIGHTER will see a #9. DC doesn't do everything right, sure, but they are able to keep certain books alive a lot longer than they probably (saleswise) should. And honestly, even announcing a book is cancelled is more respectful to the book & its audience than just letting it end with no advance notice (an unfortunate Marvel tactic which comes up more often than not these days). Yeah, sometimes they do keep a book around longer than they should saleswise... off the top of my head they allowed The Movement to have it's full 12 promised issues when it didn't sell well at all from my understanding. Also Didio personally kept All Star Western way past the point that it was supposed to be cancelled.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 19, 2016 12:57:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 15:02:12 GMT -5
Yeah, sometimes they do keep a book around longer than they should saleswise... off the top of my head they allowed The Movement to have it's full 12 promised issues when it didn't sell well at all from my understanding. Also Didio personally kept All Star Western way past the point that it was supposed to be cancelled. JONAH HEX before it was kept alive pretty long too, mostly thru strong foreign sales for (IIRC) the collections but I think also for the interest for having that genre book still running. A Western comic lasting 7 years (plus almost 3 more for its slightly more mainstream comic successor) -- that's impressive anywhere these days.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 19, 2016 22:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 19, 2016 22:47:53 GMT -5
Well since there are Two Spider-men running around, now... it's not terribly shocking (honestly... I'm only surprised it didn't happen sooner ) But does this mean that Steve won't be carrying around a shield?
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 19, 2016 22:49:02 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 19, 2016 22:50:32 GMT -5
Ah going back to a design similar to his original shield...
Though I think it's a bit too basic a design ...
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 19, 2016 22:53:54 GMT -5
Marvel's April Solicits they have: 12 comics priced at $4.99 73 comics priced at $3.99 3 comics priced at $2.99
Pretty soon that $2.99 price point will be gone
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Post by Crimson on Jan 20, 2016 0:11:13 GMT -5
Well since there are Two Spider-men running around, now... it's not terribly shocking (honestly... I'm only surprised it didn't happen sooner ) But does this mean that Steve won't be carrying around a shield? So maybe "Dead No More" is implying the original Nova is coming back?
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 20, 2016 0:12:49 GMT -5
Well since there are Two Spider-men running around, now... it's not terribly shocking (honestly... I'm only surprised it didn't happen sooner ) But does this mean that Steve won't be carrying around a shield? So maybe "Dead No More" is implying the original Nova is coming back? The innovator of offense?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 20, 2016 0:13:47 GMT -5
Well since there are Two Spider-men running around, now... it's not terribly shocking (honestly... I'm only surprised it didn't happen sooner ) But does this mean that Steve won't be carrying around a shield? So maybe "Dead No More" is implying the original Nova is coming back? It's possible I suppose, especially since the Nova Corps are a thing... Guess it could be Mar-vell... though I don't think they'd try and confuse the issue like that... also dude's been pretty much dead forever at this point in comic book time
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