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Post by Session Moth is over on Jan 31, 2015 3:52:19 GMT -5
WWE has helped me lose nearly all interest I had in Ambrose.
Thanks WWE.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jan 31, 2015 4:08:35 GMT -5
Dean Ambrose is a street dog! He talks to the dog because he is a dog!
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 31, 2015 6:38:38 GMT -5
Jesus f***ing christ the reason I came in here was to make this comment. In all honestly, yeah, he's balding, his abs aren't that ripped, and his arms aren't that big. He's kinda tall, I guess, but he simply doesn't fit the mold of a top guy. please draw on a map for me where Reigns' abs are, because I simply can't find them. And biceps? I must have bizzaro glasses on because all I see when I look at Reigns without a jacket on is an interchangeable Uso body. *cleans bizzaro glasses bizzaro-ly while sticking my tongue out*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 6:49:45 GMT -5
Jesus f***ing christ the reason I came in here was to make this comment. In all honestly, yeah, he's balding, his abs aren't that ripped, and his arms aren't that big. He's kinda tall, I guess, but he simply doesn't fit the mold of a top guy. please draw on a map for me where Reigns' abs are, because I simply can't find them. And biceps? I must have bizzaro glasses on because all I see when I look at Reigns without a jacket on is an interchangeable Uso body. *cleans bizzaro glasses bizzaro-ly while sticking my tongue out* This whole physique and look thing doesn't hold weight anyway. The Rock had no muscle definition either, even less than Reigns, when he was chosen and a receding hairline as well. So, I don't know what Reigns has been doing to give WWE such a hard on for him.
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Post by the2ndevil on Jan 31, 2015 7:10:49 GMT -5
The lack of a photoshop with Ambrose over the Zoidberg meme disappoints me greatly.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 31, 2015 7:15:33 GMT -5
Because there can be only one rising star.
They're just incapable of raising multiple faces up to the main event level at once and letting the audience's reactions dictate who gets the belt first. They want one guy as -the- guy (Cena), another they have hand picked as the future (Reigns) and everyone else some way below them where they can easily be turned heel when either guy needs a filler feud. They booked Ambrose in a way to limit his growth so he's ready to be turned when Reigns needs his first feud after vanquishing Rollins and the Authority. He'll get squashed at one of the B level PPVs, likely outpopping Reigns but the WWE will blame him for it, saying he can't work heel, rather than the fact their chosen ones tend to have no real connection with the fanbase and are often thoroughly unlikeable.
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Post by Gummydavidson on Jan 31, 2015 11:49:05 GMT -5
He needs to start winning more PPV matches.
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Post by barelybeastmode on Jan 31, 2015 12:28:22 GMT -5
I think I'd enjoy Ambrose more if he could somehow mesh how he was in the Shield with just a dash of the nuttiness he's been showing since they broke up. It bothers me that people aren't afraid of him anymore. I still remember that time he was on commentary (the first?) and Michael Cole couldn't get away from him fast enough.
"Sit down. Relax. You've never been safer." Yeah, now it's all lunatic fringe this and look how wacky he is instead *frowns*
I miss the mocking, self assured, actually unpredictable Ambrose. I may be more disappointed in how he's being booked than Bray at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 13:25:03 GMT -5
The idea of Ambrose vs. Lesnar intrigues me. Brock has faced plenty of powerhouses, but imagine if it was a crackpot of a man that dethroned the Beast Incarnate for the title. It would be a breath of fresh air.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 31, 2015 13:29:56 GMT -5
Which ppv was it that he returned and got a huge pop? That was the thing that convinced me he should be pushed over Reigns, though I'm a fan of both guys. Had they positioned him be on an ascent from that moment till now, culminating in winning the Rumble and main eventing, the fans would by and large be hunky dory. I even think they'd have been ok with Bryan being eliminated as well.
In an alternate universe, Dean would be gearing up to face Brock with the vast majority of fans behind him right now.
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Post by ededdneddy on Jan 31, 2015 19:25:14 GMT -5
This is Vinces mindset for this thread..... {Spoiler}
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 31, 2015 19:52:01 GMT -5
There are a lot of things that the company, if not fans, see wrong with Ambrose.
1. Former garbage wrestler. No matter how good they get, how well they react with the crowd, the company has never gotten fully behind them. Even Foley, with his "put butts in seats" night, was never truly given the run.
2. The aptitude tests. Remember the interview Bryan did not long ago saying how he scored so low on the company's tests and such? I'm willing to bet Ambrose didn't fare a whole lot better. He shrugs off social media and seems more interested in playing his role and telling stories than he is in "succeeding" WWE-style.
3. He's - by some accounts - a legit nutter, or at least to a degree the office may not feel entirely safe getting behind him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:52:48 GMT -5
Which ppv was it that he returned and got a huge pop? That was the thing that convinced me he should be pushed over Reigns, though I'm a fan of both guys. Had they positioned him be on an ascent from that moment till now, culminating in winning the Rumble and main eventing, the fans would by and large be hunky dory. I even think they'd have been ok with Bryan being eliminated as well. In an alternate universe, Dean would be gearing up to face Brock with the vast majority of fans behind him right now. It was Night of Champions iirc. What you said is pretty much what I was feeling when after returned. It was simple and clear, yet they didn't take the opportunity right in from of them. He became like the most over guy in the company and WWE just continued to treat him like any other guy and made him look an idiot week after week until all momentum that had been built up was lost.
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Post by Boo! on Jan 31, 2015 19:56:16 GMT -5
I think Ambrose will be a major player over the next 4 years.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2015 1:52:36 GMT -5
Because there can be only one rising star. They're just incapable of raising multiple faces up to the main event level at once and letting the audience's reactions dictate who gets the belt first. They want one guy as -the- guy (Cena), another they have hand picked as the future (Reigns) and everyone else some way below them where they can easily be turned heel when either guy needs a filler feud. They booked Ambrose in a way to limit his growth so he's ready to be turned when Reigns needs his first feud after vanquishing Rollins and the Authority. He'll get squashed at one of the B level PPVs, likely outpopping Reigns but the WWE will blame him for it, saying he can't work heel, rather than the fact their chosen ones tend to have no real connection with the fanbase and are often thoroughly unlikeable. I see what you're saying but I don't see anything wrong with the Edge, Taker, Orton, HHH, Punk spot where you will touch the top and sometimes be the man but just fall a little short. I think another underrated thing about being "the man" ppl don't think about is the fact it's a toll that not a lot of guys can handle. It's a obligation and i'm sure Cena loves it but it has to be somedays where it's hard for him to even get out of bed. Ambrose will be fine he may not be "the man" but he's an important piece of the puzzle.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Feb 1, 2015 5:58:40 GMT -5
Yeah lets make him more serious...oh god seriously is this UFC or WWE? Was Austin super-srs in 97/98 all the time? Bang 3:16? Dude Love tag partner?
I hate these discussions. Middle ground is the way to go, as per usual in life. No goofy slapstick comedy all the time, no super-srs bland badass character
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 6:10:45 GMT -5
Yeah lets make him more serious...oh god seriously is this UFC or WWE? Was Austin super-srs in 97/98 all the time? Bang 3:16? Dude Love tag partner? I hate these discussions. Middle ground is the way to go, as per usual in life. No goofy slapstick comedy all the time, no super-srs bland badass character Did you even read the o.p.? Because if you did you'd realize that this is about WWE putting him at the top where he belongs. The "serious" thing is a discussion seperate from the main pount of the thread. It's an internet forum, it happens. I also never said he had to be Chris Jericho circa 2009. I just want all of the stupid sight gag crap to either be turned down a couple of notches or thrown out completey when it comes to Ambrose. And to be frank, I didn't care for that kind of stuff with Austin either. That Crapper 3:16 segment with Goldust was stupid.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 1, 2015 6:30:37 GMT -5
Honestly, the comedy stuff that's allegedly neutering him is the main thing I find entertaining about him. He's not taking the idea behind his character too seriously, but he still takes the performance seriously, if that makes sense.
I guess you could try to make some of his pranks more violent than just "wacky", but I like Ambrose as closer to a badass Bugs Bunny as opposed to the generic crazy indy guy he was as Moxley.
He probably shouldn't lose to exploding TVs, but the infamous green slime? No, that was fun!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 6:37:00 GMT -5
Honestly, the comedy stuff that's allegedly neutering him is the main thing I find entertaining about him. He's not taking the idea behind his character too seriously, but he still takes the performance seriously, if that makes sense. I guess you could try to make some of his pranks more violent than just "wacky", but I like Ambrose as closer to a badass Bugs Bunny as opposed to the generic crazy indy guy he was as Moxley. He probably shouldn't lose to exploding TVs, but the infamous green slime? No, that was fun! Yeah, it was fun... If you're Vince McMahon
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Post by sonofblaine on Feb 1, 2015 6:59:09 GMT -5
What about Raven?!
But anyway, there is a place for comedy in Ambrose. The problem is it's not in schtick and manniquins. It's more of an uncomfortable comedy. It's chuckling because he makes you nervous. Or it's the the quick, wry comment just before he caves your skull in, like the Ice bucket bit with Rollins... or when Rollins was escaping through the crowd, laughing, and Ambrose casually joins him from behind... come to think of it... Ambrose's best work has been playing off Rollins' straight man.
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