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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 18, 2015 0:54:00 GMT -5
The difference between The Miz and Lawrence Taylor is that people went to Wrestlemania to see Lawrence Taylor.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 0:55:41 GMT -5
Winner - Lawrence Taylor Runner-up - Roman Reigns Neither of these two shouldn't be main eventing Mania. Not at all. I don't even know how people can even THINK of Miz in this spot.Miz worked his ass off. Sure, I would have preferred if Miz main evented a Summerslam instead of Wrestlemania, at the same time the guy deserved that spot. He rose up naturally. Miz absolutely did not "rise up naturally," the guy had a rocket strapped to his ass from late 2009 onward. The entire Miz and Morrison breakup angle was done to get him over, with Morrison not getting a single win over Miz the entire feud. From there, Miz went on to hold two midcard belts simultaneously, worked an angle with Bret Hart over the summer, and successfully won the title from Randy Orton. Both before and after his title win, he was all over the show, rarely lost clean, and had Michael Cole constantly, constantly kissing his ass. That's not a natural ascent in the least.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 0:57:34 GMT -5
The difference between The Miz and Lawrence Taylor is that people went to Wrestlemania to see Lawrence Taylor. I ordered Wrestlemania for Miz Also glad I did because that Hate Me Now video is the best WM memory I have recently
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Post by fw91 on Mar 18, 2015 0:58:44 GMT -5
why is Reigns any less deserving then say Yokozuna at mania 9? Was that not a super push? he was only around for a few months when he won the rumble. Reigns arguably paid more dues, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't want Reigns in the main event.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 1:07:25 GMT -5
why is Reigns any less deserving then say Yokozuna at mania 9? Was that not a super push? he was only around for a few months when he won the rumble. Reigns arguably paid more dues, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't want Reigns in the main event. That is a good point
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 1:10:19 GMT -5
Winner - Lawrence Taylor Runner-up - Roman Reigns Neither of these two shouldn't be main eventing Mania. Not at all. I don't even know how people can even THINK of Miz in this spot.Miz worked his ass off. Sure, I would have preferred if Miz main evented a Summerslam instead of Wrestlemania, at the same time the guy deserved that spot. He rose up naturally. Miz absolutely did not "rise up naturally," the guy had a rocket strapped to his ass from late 2009 onward. The entire Miz and Morrison breakup angle was done to get him over, with Morrison not getting a single win over Miz the entire feud. From there, Miz went on two hold two midcard belts simultaneously, worked an angle with Bret Hart over the summer, and successfully won the title from Randy Orton. Both before and after his title win, he was all over the show, rarely lost clean, and had Michael Cole constantly, constantly kissing his ass. That's not a natural ascent in the least. Pretty organic in terms of the heat he was getting. Whether you wanna say it was organic or not (but how organic can a good heel rise up to the main event anyways?) the heat was there. The reaction when he beat Orton has got to be one of the biggest reactions of this decade,his feud with Lawler, though many seem to hate it just out of principle was extremely over, made Lawler look like a big deal without milling any of Miz's momentum. And he had a really great act with cheerleader Michael Cole and punching bag Riley.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 18, 2015 1:12:04 GMT -5
Yoko was in the business far longer than Reigns was, having wrestled in Japan, Mexico, and the AWA. And he actually did stuff there, instead of wrestling a couple matches and then telling us he was a standout in those places.
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Post by Clawley Race on Mar 18, 2015 1:13:09 GMT -5
Ummm...Bam Bam Bigelow please. The guy was a midcarder at best in his WWF career. He wasn't over or even getting too big of a push like other popular picks (Miz/Reigns).
RR 93 - def Big Bossman on his way out the door WM: 9 - not on card KOTR 93 - Runner Up (wins over Typhoon & Duggan, both their last PPV matches also) SummerSlam - lost to Tatanka/Smoking Gunns Survivor Series - lost to 4 Doinks (pinned by Mabel) RR 94 - lost to Tatanka (good showing in Rumble) WM 10 - def Doink & Dink KOTR 94 - lost to Razor Ramon (quarter finals) Summerslam - def Headshrinkers Survivor Series - def Luger/Adam Bomb/Mabel/Smoking Gunns (pinned Adam Bomb, survivor) Royal Rumble 95 - lost to Bob Holly/1-2-3 Kid
WM 11 - Main Event?
Ooooookay. I'm not arguing that he wasn't a great big man...but just no. Is Tyson Kidd a deserving or credible WM headliner? No.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 18, 2015 1:16:32 GMT -5
Winner - Lawrence Taylor Runner-up - Roman Reigns Neither of these two shouldn't be main eventing Mania. Not at all. I don't even know how people can even THINK of Miz in this spot.Miz worked his ass off. Sure, I would have preferred if Miz main evented a Summerslam instead of Wrestlemania, at the same time the guy deserved that spot. He rose up naturally. Miz absolutely did not "rise up naturally," the guy had a rocket strapped to his ass from late 2009 onward. The entire Miz and Morrison breakup angle was done to get him over, with Morrison not getting a single win over Miz the entire feud. From there, Miz went on two hold two midcard belts simultaneously, worked an angle with Bret Hart over the summer, and successfully won the title from Randy Orton. Both before and after his title win, he was all over the show, rarely lost clean, and had Michael Cole constantly, constantly kissing his ass. That's not a natural ascent in the least. Miz toiled in the midcard for years and he was a comedy act before the Miz/Morrison breakup. Morrison was meant to be the breakout star of the two. The team constantly came out to Morrison's music with HIS slow motion entrance. Morrison looked like a star while Miz looked like his goober sidekick with his wacky comedy geek shorts. And post break up, he was made to look like a geek who had no business being in the ring with Cena because Cena was focused on "real stars" like Big Show. Miz had to literally show his ass (wearing trunks as the Calgary Kid) to get Vince to even look in his direction. Miz wasn't supposed to be the more successful of the two. That just happened because reasons like JoMo/Melina drama
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Post by Starshine on Mar 18, 2015 1:36:57 GMT -5
There's more than a couple.
Top if obviously Lawrence Taylor. Other than him there's Sgt. Slaughter, Sid twice, Bam Bam Bigelow, Big Show, Miz, and Batista at 30.
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Post by Kay Faban on Mar 18, 2015 1:53:35 GMT -5
Yoko was in the business far longer than Reigns was, having wrestled in Japan, Mexico, and the AWA. And he actually did stuff there, instead of wrestling a couple matches and then telling us he was a standout in those places. In WWE terms, especially back then, none of that experience matters.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 18, 2015 2:13:16 GMT -5
Miz absolutely did not "rise up naturally," the guy had a rocket strapped to his ass from late 2009 onward. The entire Miz and Morrison breakup angle was done to get him over, with Morrison not getting a single win over Miz the entire feud. From there, Miz went on two hold two midcard belts simultaneously, worked an angle with Bret Hart over the summer, and successfully won the title from Randy Orton. Both before and after his title win, he was all over the show, rarely lost clean, and had Michael Cole constantly, constantly kissing his ass. That's not a natural ascent in the least. Miz toiled in the midcard for years and he was a comedy act before the Miz/Morrison breakup. Morrison was meant to be the breakout star of the two. The team constantly came out to Morrison's music with HIS slow motion entrance. Morrison looked like a star while Miz looked like his goober sidekick with his wacky comedy geek shorts. And post break up, he was made to look like a geek who had no business being in the ring with Cena because Cena was focused on "real stars" like Big Show. Miz had to literally show his ass (wearing trunks as the Calgary Kid) to get Vince to even look in his direction. Miz wasn't supposed to be the more successful of the two. That just happened because reasons like JoMo/Melina dramaI always hated this theory. It's always been random speculation with nothing to back it up. It just gets repeated so much on the internet that some people take it as fact with no proof.
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 18, 2015 2:23:27 GMT -5
Miz deserved the main event. He was one of the best things about 2009 besides ECW and Smackdown. Dude was on fire in September 2009 with the catchphrase and he sold a shit load of shirts. That black shirt with "I'm Awesome" in white/blue was simple and effective. A lot of folks had it even me. I soured on the Miz because he was being super repetitive post title reign and it was annoying. He didn't evolve and just stayed the same until this Miz that returned last fall. This Miz is awesome and perfect for the main event of a future Mania where he loses because the heel must get his comeuppance but that will never happen.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Mar 18, 2015 2:25:15 GMT -5
Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania X8.
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 18, 2015 2:28:00 GMT -5
Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania X8. By proxy HHH didn't either. If there was no Hogan/NWO return the Undisputed title was going to main event anyway.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Mar 18, 2015 2:32:08 GMT -5
Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania X8. By proxy HHH didn't either. If there was no Hogan/NWO return the Undisputed title was going to main event anyway. No, I mean he was a shit champion.
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Post by avenger on Mar 18, 2015 2:39:19 GMT -5
why is Reigns any less deserving then say Yokozuna at mania 9? Was that not a super push? he was only around for a few months when he won the rumble. Reigns arguably paid more dues, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't want Reigns in the main event. Yokozuna had been on TV six months, and had only faced three other superstars on TV. Reigns is over the hill and washed out compared to Yokozuna's pre WMiX WWF career.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 18, 2015 2:44:10 GMT -5
Yoko was in the business far longer than Reigns was, having wrestled in Japan, Mexico, and the AWA. And he actually did stuff there, instead of wrestling a couple matches and then telling us he was a standout in those places. In WWE terms, especially back then, none of that experience matters. But it's still experience, so it means that he's not green as turtle shit like Reigns is.
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 18, 2015 2:51:37 GMT -5
Steven Richards
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Mar 18, 2015 3:31:56 GMT -5
Total hindsight, but Chris Benoit
As a person, he is a murderer of a woman and young child. He doesn't deserve to be remembered as a Wrestlemania main eventer and rightly isn't acknowledged for being one. I don't care how he was at his job. It's irrelevant. Other guys have stunk up the ring at Wrestlemania or gotten completely undeserved pushes. Only one isn't discussed as ever even being there.
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