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Post by Cvslfc123 on May 21, 2015 10:29:22 GMT -5
When was the roster cut off last year? I can see Samoa Joe being the big DLC release if he makes it in.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 11:59:56 GMT -5
2K15 on the last-gen was shit. I can only imagine how much worse 2K16 will be. I found it better than the current gen game. The two things that were hyped as THE reason for getting it were pretty poor. The new game style was awkward and sluggish... and pretty much half the match was dragging your opponent into position. (in doing making it damn near impossible to pull off some position specific moves) and the Mycareer that they were hyping was hamstrung by lack of creative options and not a hell of a lot to actually do. My issue is that we know that the Yuke's issues are always going to remain, such as six men max and whatnot, but 2K basically told them to make their version worse so the 2K version would look better by comparison. Can't both just be seperate in how they approach things?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 21:52:00 GMT -5
Please...for the love of god WWE please make the cover stars the Shield boys. Also for Showcase I still nominate these 2 modes: - The Rise of Daniel Bryan: Play through Bryan's entire WWE history up until WM31 - The Hounds of Justice: Play through the Shields debut up until WM31 or, actually, I wouldn't mind them doing it up until Payback I nominate going back to an actual story mode because these, "Recreate the match," modes are boring as hell and have absolutely zero replay value.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 22, 2015 3:33:29 GMT -5
Please...for the love of god WWE please make the cover stars the Shield boys. Also for Showcase I still nominate these 2 modes: - The Rise of Daniel Bryan: Play through Bryan's entire WWE history up until WM31 - The Hounds of Justice: Play through the Shields debut up until WM31 or, actually, I wouldn't mind them doing it up until Payback I nominate going back to an actual story mode because these, "Recreate the match," modes are boring as hell and have absolutely zero replay value. I wish they would actually let us play through the stuff, as opposed to pasting Action Commands everywhere. I remember it being really awesome when you did HHH vs. Cactus Jack in WWE 13, and you would actually control Cactus as he ran down the ramp and hit Hunter with a garbage can. It seems like if they did that again, you'd just watch Cactus do it and maybe get to press A to pay your respects.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 22, 2015 10:09:11 GMT -5
Please...for the love of god WWE please make the cover stars the Shield boys. Also for Showcase I still nominate these 2 modes: - The Rise of Daniel Bryan: Play through Bryan's entire WWE history up until WM31 - The Hounds of Justice: Play through the Shields debut up until WM31 or, actually, I wouldn't mind them doing it up until Payback I nominate going back to an actual story mode because these, "Recreate the match," modes are boring as hell and have absolutely zero replay value. Yeah, I have no interest in the showcase modes...
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 22, 2015 10:58:30 GMT -5
How does a story mode have more replay value than the showcase stuff?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 11:08:21 GMT -5
How does a story mode have more replay value than the showcase stuff? Typically you can play through it with multiple people, and the vast majority of the story modes in the games have branching paths and multiple ways you can go about things. Though even if they did it like WWE 12 that didn't do those things, I'd still prefer something like that over, "Here, play Triple H / Lesnar from Mania 29." Rewatching that match would be bad enough, I don't want to recreate it.
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on May 22, 2015 16:42:20 GMT -5
>DO MAGIC
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Post by Hypnosis on May 22, 2015 17:20:04 GMT -5
That reminded me of the SVR 2007 "Uh-Oh It's Magic" storyline with the video of a Sephiroth look-alike CAW talking in Shelton Benjamin's voice:
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on May 22, 2015 17:41:11 GMT -5
That reminded me of the SVR 2007 "Uh-Oh It's Magic" storyline with the video of a Sephiroth look-alike CAW talking in Shelton Benjamin's voice: Man, I forgot about that storyline. I remember, I did it as Big Show, so A, the woman had his voice and B, his stats. So the match against Candice was the squashiest of squashes.
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Post by FinalGwen on May 22, 2015 21:13:15 GMT -5
How does a story mode have more replay value than the showcase stuff? Because the showcase stuff is generally "Oh hey, look, they recreated that moment pretty nicely as a cutscene, now I've got to get my opponent moderately damaged so I can see another cutscene.", and if you really want to relive a match, you're better off just watching it on the Network. Compare that to being able to play through all original storylines that could branch off and not follow things by rote, where Jack Swagger can become a luchador and WCW can invade and conquer WWE, where you can turn Finlay into a zombie and make Vince McMahon do the chicken dance, where you can fight in Better-Than-U-Topia rules matches and have the insane stipulations actually work in-match rather than cutting away mid-match to tell the story. There's a whole bunch of clever and creative stuff in there and unlike the showcase modes, the only way to relive it is to play the games.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 22, 2015 21:15:18 GMT -5
How does a story mode have more replay value than the showcase stuff? Because the showcase stuff is generally "Oh hey, look, they recreated that moment pretty nicely as a cutscene, now I've got to get my opponent moderately damaged so I can see another cutscene.", and if you really want to relive a match, you're better off just watching it on the Network. Compare that to being able to play through all original storylines that could branch off and not follow things by rote, where Jack Swagger can become a luchador and WCW can invade and conquer WWE, where you can turn Finlay into a zombie and make Vince McMahon do the chicken dance, where you can fight in Better-Than-U-Topia rules matches and have the insane stipulations actually work in-match rather than cutting away mid-match to tell the story. There's a whole bunch of clever and creative stuff in there and unlike the showcase modes, the only way to relive it is to play the games. That's not replay value. You play through it once, it's not going to change the second time.
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Post by FinalGwen on May 22, 2015 21:23:47 GMT -5
Because the showcase stuff is generally "Oh hey, look, they recreated that moment pretty nicely as a cutscene, now I've got to get my opponent moderately damaged so I can see another cutscene.", and if you really want to relive a match, you're better off just watching it on the Network. Compare that to being able to play through all original storylines that could branch off and not follow things by rote, where Jack Swagger can become a luchador and WCW can invade and conquer WWE, where you can turn Finlay into a zombie and make Vince McMahon do the chicken dance, where you can fight in Better-Than-U-Topia rules matches and have the insane stipulations actually work in-match rather than cutting away mid-match to tell the story. There's a whole bunch of clever and creative stuff in there and unlike the showcase modes, the only way to relive it is to play the games. That's not replay value. You play through it once, it's not going to change the second time. If you ignore the fact that many of the story modes had a whole variety of branching paths with different dialogue, matches, characters even, you could say that. But to me, if something's as fun to play the seventh time as it is the first, that's replay value too, and the showcase mode is barely fun to play through the first time.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 21:26:09 GMT -5
Because the showcase stuff is generally "Oh hey, look, they recreated that moment pretty nicely as a cutscene, now I've got to get my opponent moderately damaged so I can see another cutscene.", and if you really want to relive a match, you're better off just watching it on the Network. Compare that to being able to play through all original storylines that could branch off and not follow things by rote, where Jack Swagger can become a luchador and WCW can invade and conquer WWE, where you can turn Finlay into a zombie and make Vince McMahon do the chicken dance, where you can fight in Better-Than-U-Topia rules matches and have the insane stipulations actually work in-match rather than cutting away mid-match to tell the story. There's a whole bunch of clever and creative stuff in there and unlike the showcase modes, the only way to relive it is to play the games. That's not replay value. You play through it once, it's not going to change the second time. Most of the original game storylines have multiple present stories you can be apart of though - like that Swagger one, that doesn't have to happen as the storyline has two different paths it takes at a point. Then you have stuff like Here Comes the Pain that, besides having a large number of potential storylines you can be part of at any given time, shuffles around the roles so each playthrough you're fighting different people.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 22, 2015 21:26:52 GMT -5
That's not replay value. You play through it once, it's not going to change the second time. If you ignore the fact that many of the story modes had a whole variety of branching paths with different dialogue, matches, characters even, you could say that. But to me, if something's as fun to play the seventh time as it is the first, that's replay value too, and the showcase mode is barely fun to play through the first time. See what you're talking about is the Season mode from HCTP and SYM. Which is fine. I'm referring to the 'Road to Wrestlemania' story stuff that were linear outside of MAYBE one choice where you wrestle one or two different people but the stories are completely the same. It's no different to me than the showcase mode. It's just showcase but original stories. I don't think anyone anywhere will disagree with a return of a season mode in the vein of HCTP.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 22, 2015 22:17:51 GMT -5
They could salvage Showcase Mode if they added simple elements such as the ability rewrite history with multiple scenarios. What happens when HBK beats Austin at Mania? What happens if Bret wins at Survivor Series? That could add more replay value and intrigue when you play matches where you don't know exactly is going to happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 0:18:30 GMT -5
So this is outdated, and irrelevant.
But Big Cass & Enzo + Retro Cena theme + Cryme Tyme entrance = best thing ever.
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Post by Heartbreaker on May 23, 2015 3:37:54 GMT -5
I really miss when they actually had original stories and the days of SYM/HCTP season mode... It was so much fun. I worry so much about how the series is gonna be in a couple of years.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 23, 2015 11:58:11 GMT -5
They could salvage Showcase Mode if they added simple elements such as the ability rewrite history with multiple scenarios. What happens when HBK beats Austin at Mania? What happens if Bret wins at Survivor Series? That could add more replay value and intrigue when you play matches where you don't know exactly is going to happen. I remember a story creator story I stumbled across once being about The Kilq never breaking up and taking over the WWE. Kane debuts alligned with Taker to fight them. Purple and black getup. I looooove historical what if stuff. Especially if its nuts.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 12:26:17 GMT -5
Lawler's confirmed that 2k16 will center around Stone Cold Steve Austin mode and he says he and JR doing voice-overs for it. With that said, I wonder what else they're going to do.
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