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Post by Capt Lunatic on Jun 5, 2015 1:08:03 GMT -5
I hope Davos gets more involved soon. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Maybe if Sansa escapes, he's involved. He is a smuggler. His absence could explain Stannis sacrificing Shireen, his conscience is gone and I just doubt that Davos, no matter his loyalty, would let it happen. Or Ramsay kills him. I'm afraid that Ramsay will kill Davos, or do some real damage, and it will give Mel the opening to say "We need a sacrifice my King..."
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 5, 2015 2:45:34 GMT -5
Anyone else think the White Walkers and wights have completly negated most of the other stories? They seem so overpowered, who cares what the King is or isnt doing and that the Queen and Queen mother are in jail when the undead apocalypse is on the way? Well, I think that's the point: everybody is quarrelling over politics while the real threat is knocking at their door, yet they do everything in their power to convince themselves that it's not that big a deal and they can take care of that later, leaving only a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing the problem without actually giving them anywhere near the means to do so. Wait, I just realized... the White Walkers are global warming!
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Post by Dub H on Jun 5, 2015 3:04:32 GMT -5
Anyone else think the White Walkers and wights have completly negated most of the other stories? They seem so overpowered, who cares what the King is or isnt doing and that the Queen and Queen mother are in jail when the undead apocalypse is on the way? Well, I think that's the point: everybody is quarrelling over politics while the real threat is knocking at their door, yet they do everything in their power to convince themselves that it's not that big a deal and they can take care of that later, leaving only a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing the problem without actually giving them anywhere near the means to do so. Wait, I just realized... the White Walkers are global warming!![](http://dougbelshaw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/mind-blown.gif)
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 5, 2015 3:40:03 GMT -5
Anyone else think the White Walkers and wights have completly negated most of the other stories? They seem so overpowered, who cares what the King is or isnt doing and that the Queen and Queen mother are in jail when the undead apocalypse is on the way? Well, I think that's the point: everybody is quarrelling over politics while the real threat is knocking at their door, yet they do everything in their power to convince themselves that it's not that big a deal and they can take care of that later, leaving only a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing the problem without actually giving them anywhere near the means to do so. Wait, I just realized... the White Walkers are global warming!And the Dragons are nuclear weapons! It's the longest allegory in history!
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jun 5, 2015 5:54:15 GMT -5
I hope Davos gets more involved soon. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Maybe if Sansa escapes, he's involved. He is a smuggler. His absence could explain Stannis sacrificing Shireen, his conscience is gone and I just doubt that Davos, no matter his loyalty, would let it happen. Or Ramsay kills him. Or he kills Ramsay. His act is tired, been tired since last season and if he's still around in season 6, that will be disappointing. Especially when they are adding new characters are going to be doing much more interesting things. How many times can he torture Theon?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 5, 2015 7:12:23 GMT -5
Or he kills Ramsay. His act is tired, been tired since last season and if he's still around in season 6, that will be disappointing. Especially when they are adding new characters are going to be doing much more interesting things. How many times can he torture Theon? I'd say one of the Boltons does at the very least, just to change up the dynamic. Ramsay dies because he's sadistic and everyone's hate catches up to him, or Roose dies and he suddenly has real power to use.
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Post by kieran on Jun 5, 2015 7:22:10 GMT -5
Well, I think that's the point: everybody is quarrelling over politics while the real threat is knocking at their door, yet they do everything in their power to convince themselves that it's not that big a deal and they can take care of that later, leaving only a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing the problem without actually giving them anywhere near the means to do so. Wait, I just realized... the White Walkers are global warming!And the Dragons are nuclear weapons! It's the longest allegory in history! I cant believe I never thought of that, well done, youve completly changed my outlook on them! Dragons being symbolic of nukes is a great idea, theres a theory out there that dragon fire could kill the White's, maybe at some point the majority of Westeros has been overrun with them and the only solution is to obliterate the lands with fire, even though there may be some villages that are still human and they'd be wiping away thousands of years of history.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jun 5, 2015 7:28:16 GMT -5
Or he kills Ramsay. His act is tired, been tired since last season and if he's still around in season 6, that will be disappointing. Especially when they are adding new characters are going to be doing much more interesting things. How many times can he torture Theon? I'd say one of the Boltons does at the very least, just to change up the dynamic. Ramsay dies because he's sadistic and everyone's hate catches up to him, or Roose dies and he suddenly has real power to use. I say it has to be Ramsay. There's a possibility for nuance in Roose's performance that isn't with Ramsay. The actor does what he can, but even in the books he has this problem of just being another Joffrey.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 5, 2015 8:45:43 GMT -5
Well, I think that's the point: everybody is quarrelling over politics while the real threat is knocking at their door, yet they do everything in their power to convince themselves that it's not that big a deal and they can take care of that later, leaving only a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing the problem without actually giving them anywhere near the means to do so. Wait, I just realized... the White Walkers are global warming!And the Dragons are nuclear weapons! It's the longest allegory in history! The show is, maybe. The books are a fantasy homage to Trading Places, with Varys and Littlefinger in the role of the rich dudes.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 5, 2015 8:58:07 GMT -5
So Tommen is so impotent that the two most important people in his life get thrown in jail and all he does is pout in his room and refuse to come out?
I know he's King Butters, but FFS.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 5, 2015 9:06:28 GMT -5
And the Dragons are nuclear weapons! It's the longest allegory in history! The show is, maybe. The books are a fantasy homage to Trading Places, with Varys and Littlefinger in the role of the rich dudes. So Tyrion's Eddie Murphy! No wonder he likes hookers so much.
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Post by chrom on Jun 5, 2015 11:40:46 GMT -5
So Tommen is so impotent that the two most important people in his life get thrown in jail and all he does is pout in his room and refuse to come out? I know he's King Butters, but FFS. What do you expect an kid who's hid behind his mother's skirt his entire life to do?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 5, 2015 12:31:46 GMT -5
So Tommen is so impotent that the two most important people in his life get thrown in jail and all he does is pout in his room and refuse to come out? I know he's King Butters, but FFS. What do you expect an kid who's hid behind his mother's skirt his entire life to do? Ban beets and play with Ser Pounce.
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Post by chrom on Jun 5, 2015 12:44:16 GMT -5
What do you expect an kid who's hid behind his mother's skirt his entire life to do? Ban beets and play with Ser Pounce. Exactly, Cersei and Jaime's children are to be completely blunt, worthless. Joffrey's was an incompetent psychopath and coward only backed by Tywin, and Tommen doesn't know how to do anything on his own due to being smothered by Cersei. Myrcella may be the one to escape that due to going to Dorne. Hell, if Littlefinger hadn't done it, Tywin himself would've likely arranged for Joffrey to die down the line having gotten fed up with his stupidity. It would not have surprised me at all.
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Post by Cela on Jun 5, 2015 12:45:20 GMT -5
I'd say one of the Boltons does at the very least, just to change up the dynamic. Ramsay dies because he's sadistic and everyone's hate catches up to him, or Roose dies and he suddenly has real power to use. I say it has to be Ramsay. There's a possibility for nuance in Roose's performance that isn't with Ramsay. The actor does what he can, but even in the books he has this problem of just being another Joffrey. But Ramsay in power makes for a more entertaining story. Roose is just an imperfect clone of Tywin with a flaying fetish, we've seen this already. With Ramsay, you get to see how he would actually rule, and the eventual rebellion against him since he is a less subtle version of the Mad King. Also, crazy shirtless Ramsay vs. an incoming zombie horde would be a fun visual.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 5, 2015 12:53:40 GMT -5
RUN AWAY, HE HAS NO SHIRT!
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Post by Cela on Jun 5, 2015 17:04:08 GMT -5
RUN AWAY, HE HAS NO SHIRT! It worked on the Assholes from Dickhead Island.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 5, 2015 18:02:35 GMT -5
RUN AWAY, HE HAS NO SHIRT! It worked on the Assholes from Dickhead Island. Easily the worst scene from season 4. From the absurd time it took for them to travel from Pyke, to Ramsey fighting shirtless, to them running away from dogs while holding axes. Cringe-worthy. Wouldn't shock me if the same guy who directed that terrible Sand Snakes fight directed that.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 5, 2015 18:06:58 GMT -5
I say it has to be Ramsay. There's a possibility for nuance in Roose's performance that isn't with Ramsay. The actor does what he can, but even in the books he has this problem of just being another Joffrey. But Ramsay in power makes for a more entertaining story. Roose is just an imperfect clone of Tywin with a flaying fetish, we've seen this already. With Ramsay, you get to see how he would actually rule, and the eventual rebellion against him since he is a less subtle version of the Mad King. Does it though? Ramsey is literally a northern Joffrey and a way for Theon to find his redemption. After that's done, he serves no more purpose to the story. This isn't just the show. I feel the same way about him in the books.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 6, 2015 6:46:30 GMT -5
It worked on the Assholes from Dickhead Island. Easily the worst scene from season 4. From the absurd time it took for them to travel from Pyke, to Ramsey fighting shirtless, to them running away from dogs while holding axes. Cringe-worthy. Wouldn't shock me if the same guy who directed that terrible Sand Snakes fight directed that. The best part about that scene was that they never even explained how Yara got away from Ramsay. It was like, "we're trapped by this shirtless dude and his dogs!" Next shot: "Hey, we're back at our boats somehow, let's split"
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