What's up with the dates on the 1993 (& beyond?) Raw eps?

[CM Dazz]

I'm going to repost this over here too since I'm really interested in finding an answer to the italicized question/situation below about how the 1993 Raw episodes are dated, from my other post. I didn't check other years so I'm not sure if the back & forth between incorrect & correct dates continues.

Anyone know why the dates listed on the Network are off by a day? EP 1 is listed as taking place on 1/10/93, EP 2 on 1/17/93 and so on. While later shows were recorded a head of time, the first two episodes we broadcast live from the Manhattan Center on Monday's 1/11/93 & 1/18/93. Looks like they get the 5/31/93 correct & stay that way till they list 8/15/93 instead of 8/16/93. That's as far as I checked, but it's still pretty annoying.

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Rob Bartlett

Was f***ing awful.

Holy shit this is bad. I'm watching the first episode of Raw from January 11, 1993, & I forgot just how bad he was. I turned 14 years old that May, but even then I knew he was terrible. He was only around for 13 episodes, with yesterday actually being the 22nd anniversary of his last show.

Bartlett brought absolutely nothing to the table wrestling wise. He instead spent his time telling shitty jokes, calling Doink the Clown "Dork the Clown" (which Vince repeated several times before correcting himself) & doing a horrifyingly bad Mike Tyson impersonation. The whole thing is a f***ing train wreck & we're not even at the main event yet! I can't even enjoy Savage at the announce desk with this ass-bag "comedian" constantly running his mouth.

Bad. Bad bad bad bad bad bad. BAD.


A quick side question here: Anyone know why the dates listed on the Network are off by a day? EP 1 is listed as taking place on 1/10/93, EP 2 on 1/17/93 and so on. While later shows were recorded a head of time, the first two episodes we broadcast live from the Manhattan Center on Monday's 1/11/93 & 1/18/93. Looks like they get the 5/31/93 correct & stay that way till they list 8/15/93 instead of 8/16/93. That's as far as I checked, but it's still pretty annoying.

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[bobca]

It's most likely because their metadata for the air dates is wrong.

Each piece of network content has four dates attached to it (amongst lots of other stuff)
release_date: when it was put on the network
expiration_date: when it'll disappear from the network (everything is listed as New Years Eve 2099)
air_date: when it was on TV
event_date: when it happened

From the metadata of the first Raw, these are:

{
"displayName": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000",
"type": "release_date",
"value": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000",
"type": "expiration_date",
"value": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-01-11T00:00:00+0000",
"type": "air_date",
"value": "1993-01-11T00:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-01-10T19:00:00-0500",
"type": "event_date",
"value": "1993-01-10T19:00:00-0500"
},

The problem's in the air_date. Since it doesn't have the correct time (it probably wasn't shown at midnight GMT), when their software generated the event_date corrected for the time zone, subtracting five hours rolled the date backwards.

For episode 11, the dates are:

{
"displayName": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000",
"type": "release_date",
"value": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000",
"type": "expiration_date",
"value": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-04-05T12:00:00+0000",
"type": "air_date",
"value": "1993-04-05T12:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-04-05T08:00:00-0400"
"type": "event_date",
"value": "1993-04-05T08:00:00-0400"
},

These that have the correct date have their air_date time set to midday GMT rather than midnight, so after subtraction it's still the correct date. The 2015 ones are set to midday too, so it seems that's how they've chosen to 'fix' their lax time keeping.

[Stuart Baggs The Brand]

I noticed this in 1998 too. For example when Raw is on a Tuesday or Saturday, it's still listed as being seven days after the Monday Night Raw that preceded it.

[CM Dazz]

Apr 23, 2015 22:31:35 GMT -5 bobca said:

It's most likely because their metadata for the air dates is wrong.

Each piece of network content has four dates attached to it (amongst lots of other stuff)
release_date: when it was put on the network
expiration_date: when it'll disappear from the network (everything is listed as New Years Eve 2099)
air_date: when it was on TV
event_date: when it happened

From the metadata of the first Raw, these are:

{
"displayName": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000",
"type": "release_date",
"value": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000",
"type": "expiration_date",
"value": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-01-11T00:00:00+0000",
"type": "air_date",
"value": "1993-01-11T00:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-01-10T19:00:00-0500",
"type": "event_date",
"value": "1993-01-10T19:00:00-0500"
},

The problem's in the air_date. Since it doesn't have the correct time (it probably wasn't shown at midnight GMT), when their software generated the event_date corrected for the time zone, subtracting five hours rolled the date backwards.

For episode 11, the dates are:

{
"displayName": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000",
"type": "release_date",
"value": "2014-02-23T12:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000",
"type": "expiration_date",
"value": "2099-12-31T23:59:59+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-04-05T12:00:00+0000",
"type": "air_date",
"value": "1993-04-05T12:00:00+0000"
},
{
"displayName": "1993-04-05T08:00:00-0400"
"type": "event_date",
"value": "1993-04-05T08:00:00-0400"
},

These that have the correct date have their air_date time set to midday GMT rather than midnight, so after subtraction it's still the correct date. The 2015 ones are set to midday too, so it seems that's how they've chosen to 'fix' their lax time keeping.

Oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks!

[johnnyk9]

They need to upload more episodes

[lws]

for some reason wccw episode 62's airdate is ahead of episode 61

i watched them out of sequence, the 30 year old tv show was spoiled for me!