wolverine23
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Post by wolverine23 on Apr 27, 2015 23:19:22 GMT -5
As we all know, titles do not change on free tv and rarely at ppv if Cena is the Champ at the time. So that being said, why do they keep doing this? It's pretty bad to announce that he has a match for the title at Payback and then show that graphic for the open challenge. Do they honestly think we believe that Cena will lose the title on Raw before the ppv? Doesn't make any sense. Am I the only one?
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 27, 2015 23:26:24 GMT -5
So Sami Zayne can come out and beat him for the belt?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 23:27:59 GMT -5
Rusev could potentially cost him the belt during the build to one of their matches, and it can turn the feud into a hatred feuled one instead of a patriotic one that Rusev has no upside in...
But alas, I dream...
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Post by mrtuesday on Apr 27, 2015 23:28:43 GMT -5
So Cena can be in TV every week, but not in the main event.
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Post by JCBaggee on Apr 27, 2015 23:29:15 GMT -5
"Quick, who used to be over? Bret Hart? He was a fighting champion....so John Cena should be a fighting champion!"
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Post by DSR on Apr 27, 2015 23:35:34 GMT -5
I personally think it's pretty cool just to see Cena mix it up with the midcard. For one thing it beats seeing him wrestle Randy Orton for the millionth time. For another thing, it's just cool to see the lower card guys get a chance to hang with him. I mean, we all knew Taka Michinoku wasn't gonna beat Triple H for the title, doesn't make it any less cool to see him try.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Apr 27, 2015 23:41:11 GMT -5
I personally think it's pretty cool just to see Cena mix it up with the midcard. For one thing it beats seeing him wrestle Randy Orton for the millionth time. For another thing, it's just cool to see the lower card guys get a chance to hang with him. I mean, we all knew Taka Michinoku wasn't gonna beat Triple H for the title, doesn't make it any less cool to see him try. Eh. Except when he's basically squashing them week to week it doesn't really help anyone. It'd be one thing if they didn't book matches for the title a month in advance and actually made it at least remotely possible Cena could lose to someone lower on the card. And sure, Taka would never have beaten HHH for the WWF Title, but this is the US Title, it should be possible for a midcarder to win the thing espc in one of these open challenges. If they're going to further the Rusev feud, the Open Challenge is pointless other than to get Cena TV time every week b/c it's a near certainty that no one is going to beat him before the next PPV with a match already booked. It will be nice to see if they actually book some of these guys to actually hang with Cena in the ring rather than just rearranging the "Feed him to Cena" garbage of the last 8-10 years with the only difference now is that its on the midcard.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 27, 2015 23:42:51 GMT -5
I think most of the matches have been pretty damn good. I like it, so of course that means they stop doing it this week.
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Post by wolverine23 on Apr 27, 2015 23:44:25 GMT -5
Rusev could potentially cost him the belt during the build to one of their matches, and it can turn the feud into a hatred feuled one instead of a patriotic one that Rusev has no upside in... But alas, I dream... Can't do that. That might actually make this feud interesting and give Rusev a chance.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Apr 27, 2015 23:48:07 GMT -5
The stupid thing is why doesn't Rusev just answer the open challenge?
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Post by Dragonfly on Apr 27, 2015 23:48:25 GMT -5
So Sami Zayne can come out and beat him for the belt? I'm going with Finn Balor myself.
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Post by wolverine23 on Apr 27, 2015 23:48:37 GMT -5
I personally think it's pretty cool just to see Cena mix it up with the midcard. For one thing it beats seeing him wrestle Randy Orton for the millionth time. For another thing, it's just cool to see the lower card guys get a chance to hang with him. I mean, we all knew Taka Michinoku wasn't gonna beat Triple H for the title, doesn't make it any less cool to see him try. Eh. Except when he's basically squashing them week to week it doesn't really help anyone. It'd be one thing if they didn't book matches for the title a month in advance and actually made it at least remotely possible Cena could lose to someone lower on the card. And sure, Taka would never have beaten HHH for the WWF Title, but this is the US Title, it should be possible for a midcarder to win the thing espc in one of these open challenges. If they're going to further the Rusev feud, the Open Challenge is pointless other than to get Cena TV time every week b/c it's a near certainty that no one is going to beat him before the next PPV with a match already booked. It will be nice to see if they actually book some of these guys to actually hang with Cena in the ring rather than just rearranging the "Feed him to Cena" garbage of the last 8-10 years with the only difference now is that its on the midcard. I thought Ambrose would be the guy who would take the title off Cena because Cena doesn't really need it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 23:51:59 GMT -5
I personally think it's pretty cool just to see Cena mix it up with the midcard. For one thing it beats seeing him wrestle Randy Orton for the millionth time. For another thing, it's just cool to see the lower card guys get a chance to hang with him. I mean, we all knew Taka Michinoku wasn't gonna beat Triple H for the title, doesn't make it any less cool to see him try. Eh. Except when he's basically squashing them week to week it doesn't really help anyone. It'd be one thing if they didn't book matches for the title a month in advance and actually made it at least remotely possible Cena could lose to someone lower on the card. And sure, Taka would never have beaten HHH for the WWF Title, but this is the US Title, it should be possible for a midcarder to win the thing espc in one of these open challenges. If they're going to further the Rusev feud, the Open Challenge is pointless other than to get Cena TV time every week b/c it's a near certainty that no one is going to beat him before the next PPV with a match already booked. It will be nice to see if they actually book some of these guys to actually hang with Cena in the ring rather than just rearranging the "Feed him to Cena" garbage of the last 8-10 years with the only difference now is that its on the midcard. Who is he squashing? He had competitive matches with Ambrose, Stardust, and BNB.
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Post by Raskovnik on Apr 27, 2015 23:52:13 GMT -5
It's one of the few things I enjoy about Raw, because yeah, Cena's going to win, but I'm always interested to see who it'll be this week and the matches themselves are always solid. It's something I would have liked for them to have done a long time ago.
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Post by wolverine23 on Apr 27, 2015 23:54:15 GMT -5
The stupid thing is why doesn't Rusev just answer the open challenge? That would defeat the purpose of them having a match on a ppv.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Apr 27, 2015 23:58:46 GMT -5
I would love to see someone win the title the week before the Payback match just to see how Rusev reacts.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 27, 2015 23:59:54 GMT -5
Cena's in the middle of the card not boring us in the main event. If you f***ers ruin this for me by bitching about Cena in the midcard...
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Post by Unaffiliated on Apr 28, 2015 0:00:57 GMT -5
The stupid thing is why doesn't Rusev just answer the open challenge? That would defeat the purpose of them having a match on a ppv. From a kayfabe perspective, Rusev just wants his title back, why would he care that it's on PPV? Here's Cena putting up that title at least 4 times before the next PPV, just beat him here on RAW. I think it ties in to the whole pointlessness of this open challenge.
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Post by Boshek on Apr 28, 2015 0:04:09 GMT -5
I feel if they are going to do an open challenge they should not have a number one contender nor any PPV matches scheduled. I am so sick of the announcers saying, "what if _____ wins the title? Who will he defend it against at the (PPV)? Who will Cena wrestle? What about Rusev?"
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 28, 2015 0:15:39 GMT -5
This is what a lot of people forget about the whole fighting champion concept. For the fighting champion (in this case John Cena) to remain a fighting champion and give the idea any semblance of longevity... he has to win these matches. Otherwise, it's just midcard hot potato bullshit again, and God knows we've been complaining about that enough over the years. So the best we can hope for is that Cena has competitive matches with these guys until he eventually loses the belt to someone, and as far as I can tell, that's what been happening.
The problem with THAT is, some of the fanbase has become so burnt out and cynical because of year after year of these guys having great matches but not getting anywhere because of it, and that's created this "win at all costs" atmosphere where the only way to know who the people that WWE are behind actually ARE, are the ones who constantly win. Like, who cares that Stardust or Barrett just had a great match with the face of the company? They lost, and they'll probably lose next week too, to some other guy. Circle of life, right?
Honestly, what's the solution here to appease these people? Cena's just not gonna get fired or quit or start jobbing out, because that's just ridiculous. Maybe not announcing Cena's PPV matches a month in advance would be a start.
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