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Post by StormanReigns on Oct 23, 2015 23:38:25 GMT -5
22 years since any Canadian team winning a major North American championship.
Elimination games they play in are plagued by bad calls.
Not too far of a stretch to say these major leagues do not want Canadian teams winning their championship. Would hurt American corporate funding
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Post by Waffel113 on Oct 23, 2015 23:40:23 GMT -5
Talk the umps all you want (I do think something screwy is going on there), but I have to point out that Toronto went 0-12 with runners in scoring position.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 23, 2015 23:43:37 GMT -5
Mets/Royals 2015 is this generation's Yankees/Marlins 2003- The 'It'll be good, but there's just gonna be something missing' series. Really? I don't think so. I think it's a great matchup. I mean, it might not have the sexiness factor that you want in terms of name-brand stars, but you've got a team that murders you with BABIP and the strength of its 'pen in the Royals up against a team with a young stud rotation that goes for strikeouts. I think it's gonna be terrific.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 23, 2015 23:44:54 GMT -5
Talk the umps all you want (I do think something screwy is going on there), but I have to point out that Toronto went 0-12 with runners in scoring position. Jays execute better and we win the game. We had men on the corners with nobody out. 0-12 with RISP. No excuses.
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Post by StormanReigns on Oct 23, 2015 23:47:16 GMT -5
Talk the umps all you want (I do think something screwy is going on there), but I have to point out that Toronto went 0-12 with runners in scoring position. The strike zone literally grew there. There are graphs all over twitter showing the differences. Two replays that were clearly in the Jays favour, were not called for the Jays. The Umps allowed a runner to score on a dead ball vs Toronto in the last series.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 23, 2015 23:49:21 GMT -5
The Umps allowed a runner to score on a dead ball vs Toronto in the last series. That has and always has been wrong. The Ump can't call a non foul ball/fan interference ball dead. That was always Martin's fault for not paying attention to the bat.
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Post by Palmer on Oct 23, 2015 23:51:06 GMT -5
Mets/Royals 2015 is this generation's Yankees/Marlins 2003- The 'It'll be good, but there's just gonna be something missing' series. Nope
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Post by StormanReigns on Oct 23, 2015 23:51:33 GMT -5
That has and always has been wrong. The Ump can't call a non foul ball/fan interference ball dead. That was always Martin's fault for not paying attention to the bat. Still a dead ball. If a ref blows a whistle in another sport accidentally, the play can't continue.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 23, 2015 23:53:13 GMT -5
I don't expect fans of the losers of a series to always be gracious in defeat, but there's some serious salt here.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 23, 2015 23:56:36 GMT -5
Still a dead ball. If a ref blows a whistle in another sport accidentally, the play can't continue. Yes that's other sports. Baseball doesn't have that rule so....
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 23, 2015 23:56:50 GMT -5
Party it up now, KC.
deGrom brings Judgment Day on Tuesday.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 23, 2015 23:59:16 GMT -5
I don't expect fans of the losers of a series to always be gracious in defeat, but there's some serious salt here. Eh, we got hosed a couple of times. I think Hosmer's jack should have been a GRD and I didn't care for the strikes called on Revere and Navarro, but what are you gonna do? That's the type of shit that evens itself out over the course of a season and the price you pay when human error comes into play. It f***ing sucks, but that's baseball. At the end of the day, we didn't execute. How do you win a ball game when you put up an 0-fer with RISP? You don't.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 24, 2015 0:00:27 GMT -5
I don't expect fans of the losers of a series to always be gracious in defeat, but there's some serious salt here. Only reason I am salty is due to terrible calls that helped the Royals win. If the Royals had won 3 - 1 like it looked like they were going to do, I would have wished them well. Heck, until that bogus second strike, I was still going to wish them well. But then the umps had to remind me who they had winning this game. The salt is much deserved.
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Post by StormanReigns on Oct 24, 2015 0:02:23 GMT -5
Yes that's other sports. Baseball doesn't have that rule so.... Nope, the rules very clearly state you can't score on a dead play.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 24, 2015 0:05:36 GMT -5
I don't expect fans of the losers of a series to always be gracious in defeat, but there's some serious salt here. There is but, you can't use that as a way to handwave legitimate criticism of terrible umpire work in an elimination game. There's no excuse to go back to review a call, see that it was clearly fan interference, and then signal home run anyway in a game 6. That's inexcusable. No, the Blue Jays did not execute well at all but, that doesn't automatically cancel out them getting hosed on some very crucial calls.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Oct 24, 2015 0:06:14 GMT -5
Yes that's other sports. Baseball doesn't have that rule so.... Nope, the rules very clearly state you can't score on a dead play. Except it wasn't. And they wouldn't have called it if the teams were reversed.
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Post by kevin on Oct 24, 2015 0:09:52 GMT -5
22 years since any Canadian team winning a major North American championship. Elimination games they play in are plagued by bad calls. Not too far of a stretch to say these major leagues do not want Canadian teams winning their championship. Would hurt American corporate funding I think that is a really huge stretch, with no evidence behind it. There was not even a call in this series as bad as the infield fly that killed the Braves in the first Wildcard playin game. If MLB did not want a Canadian team to win it all they would have them move.
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Post by StormanReigns on Oct 24, 2015 0:10:30 GMT -5
I don't expect fans of the losers of a series to always be gracious in defeat, but there's some serious salt here. 22 years. 0 Trophies. 4 Canadian sports teams relocated to what turned out to be much worse financial markets. 4 Canadian team's have made the NHL finals, each time the American team has had at far more powerplays in the deciding series. 2 Canadian MLS team's have made the playoffs. Each game offered PK attempts for the American team, and red cards against the Canadian team. Raptors playoffs appearances have seen the foul count favour the American team in each series they play. The Jays playoff run showed 2 clear replays go AGAINST the Jays. They got actual replay wrong. REPLAY. Don't act like you understand the frustration of Canadian sports. All the stats I offered are true, look them up for yourself.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 24, 2015 0:11:46 GMT -5
22 years since any Canadian team winning a major North American championship. Elimination games they play in are plagued by bad calls. Not too far of a stretch to say these major leagues do not want Canadian teams winning their championship. Would hurt American corporate funding I think that is a really huge stretch, with no evidence behind it. There was not even a call in this series as bad as the infield fly that killed the Braves in the first Wildcard playing game. If MLB did not want a Canadian team to win it all they would have them move. That fan interference HR......was up there. Shades of that sh**head from the Yankees-Orioles game years ago.
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Post by StormanReigns on Oct 24, 2015 0:14:23 GMT -5
Nope, the rules very clearly state you can't score on a dead play. Except it wasn't. And they wouldn't have called it if the teams were reversed. He's not even halfway
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