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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 17, 2015 18:47:01 GMT -5
I have a different take on that whole summer than Punk does. He thinks the angle was ruined when Kevin Nash became part of it, and when he lost to HHH.
I think it was ruined when Punk returned a mere two weeks after leaving with the title belt.
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Post by The Last Tweener on Jul 17, 2015 18:48:37 GMT -5
I'm not an Owens hater or anything, he is one of my favourite 5/6 superstars on the main roster, but it baffles me that some people say that Cena-Owens was a better wrestling match than Cena-Punk.
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Post by HBL on Jul 17, 2015 18:57:26 GMT -5
My favorite PPV that is not a Wrestlemania, freaking loved every second of it. It was my birthday and seeing Punk with that shirt with the date on made me go nuts.
Just one of the best things I've ever witnessed as a wrestling fan.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 17, 2015 18:57:31 GMT -5
Literally the only angle since January 2005 that got me to watch an episode of Raw on my own, rather than watching because I was at somebody's house where it was on.
The booking that came afterward drove me away really, really quickly.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Jul 17, 2015 19:38:10 GMT -5
So much win 4 years ago tonight.
And the pop for Punk is still the only acceptable alternative to "Stone Cold's entrance for his run in on Foley's first title win" as the most "Bat Shit insane, loud as shit, GOLD STANDARD" pop of all time.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 17, 2015 19:40:15 GMT -5
I'm not an Owens hater or anything, he is one of my favourite 5/6 superstars on the main roster, but it baffles me that some people say that Cena-Owens was a better wrestling match than Cena-Punk. Recency bias could play a factor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 20:25:53 GMT -5
I honestly don't know about numbers, I don't follow these things. However, I see people saying that Punk brought them back everywhere I go. Right, but that's anecdotal, and I think a lot of people exaggerate this. I am not arguing the creative quality of the first couple of months of this angle, but as far as I'm aware Punk has never moved the needle in any noticeable way. Edit: a quick google found that the Nexus angle got better ratings a year earlier. Honestly I do think CM Punk saga may have brought some continuous TV Ratings to see the saga continue while The Rock's appearances just pop up buyrates since it's a scheduled appearances. But a lot of those fans don't stay to watch the show after unless if the PPV was a damn good PPV.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 17, 2015 20:30:38 GMT -5
A solid PPV with an astounding main event. Damn time flew
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 17, 2015 20:33:38 GMT -5
I still laugh at Mysterio being so hated in the Raw MITB match that a limping Miz (2011 Miz in Chicago mind you) running out to stop him from getting the briefcase earns some of the biggest non-Punk cheers of the night.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 20:51:40 GMT -5
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 17, 2015 21:44:42 GMT -5
And for nearly four years, I have been wondering how in hell did this match not main-event Wrestlemania. I still think WM29 should have been a triple threat with Rock vs Cena vs Punk. Have Rock vs Punk at the Rumble with some type of disputed finish due to the Shield. Punk keeps the title, but Rock has a legit claim to it. Meanwhile, Cena wins the Rumble match. At Mania, Cena pins the Rock to win the title. This avenges his loss from the previous year and sets up Punk vs Cena for the next few months with Punk playing the "you never beat me" card. So does everyone but Vince. That was IMO the second worst decision since the Screwjob (The first of course being "Let's put Owen Hart on a wire")
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Post by The Last Tweener on Jul 17, 2015 22:22:19 GMT -5
I'm not an Owens hater or anything, he is one of my favourite 5/6 superstars on the main roster, but it baffles me that some people say that Cena-Owens was a better wrestling match than Cena-Punk. Recency bias could play a factor. Maybe but, to me at least, it's not even close. Cena-Punk is miles ahead. I still think WM29 should have been a triple threat with Rock vs Cena vs Punk. Have Rock vs Punk at the Rumble with some type of disputed finish due to the Shield. Punk keeps the title, but Rock has a legit claim to it. Meanwhile, Cena wins the Rumble match. At Mania, Cena pins the Rock to win the title. This avenges his loss from the previous year and sets up Punk vs Cena for the next few months with Punk playing the "you never beat me" card. So does everyone but Vince. That was IMO the second worst decision since the Screwjob (The first of course being "Let's put Owen Hart on a wire") It probably is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 3:44:52 GMT -5
One of those leaked directives for the announcers a was "don't use dates. no one cares about/knows the date."
I will always remember that this match took place on July 17th, because Punk harped on the date so much in his promos. I think it's a better strategy than saying "come Sunday" or whatever. There's lots of Sundays in a year, there is only one July 17th.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 18, 2015 4:41:15 GMT -5
Man I miss "This Fire Burns"
I like Cult of Personality too but still...
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Jul 18, 2015 5:07:27 GMT -5
I'm not a WWE hater by any means, but it was the last time that I was really, really, really excited about the product.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 18, 2015 7:36:49 GMT -5
The other week I got one of my friends to put the Network on his TV for this year's Money in the Bank. While we were waiting, to pass the time until 1am and test his connection we played the entire MITB 2011. Our other friend says the Punk/Cena match made him want to be a wrestling fan again, So we spent the rest of the week in our bored time airing pretty much every NXT show from R-Evolution
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 19, 2015 0:13:06 GMT -5
For those who are interested in the whole star rating thing, this has actually got the highest average rating for any PPV show in WWF/WWE history (and that's taking into account a Kelly Kelly/Brie Bella match that was rated "DUD"). Just goes to show how strong the two ladder matches and the two world title matches were.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 19, 2015 0:51:07 GMT -5
So much win 4 years ago tonight. And the pop for Punk is still the only acceptable alternative to "Stone Cold's entrance for his run in on Foley's first title win" as the most "Bat Shit insane, loud as shit, GOLD STANDARD" pop of all time. Hogan hulks up at Wrestlemania 18. This was also the night that Chicago went insane for The Miz returning back to Money in the Bank on one leg, and then booed Rey Mysterio for stopping Miz from winning.
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Post by SUPES on Jul 19, 2015 1:05:57 GMT -5
Here's Punk's take on today: For those that don't get the reference, Punk tweeted this photo out after he won the title: If he's being serious, that speaks that he still loves the business, just going through an ugly patch with it.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 19, 2015 15:17:07 GMT -5
I love the announcing, too. God, this was a great. Since then, nothing has topped this angle. Nothing has topped this match. Nothing has topped Punks character around this point. This PPV is miles ahead of anything since...
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