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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 24, 2015 0:05:40 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh. It's like over a years worth of storylines completely wasted if they go this route. WWE creative haven't got a clue have they?
On the positive side at least its not Big Show. On the negative side... they're probably saving him to take Cena's US Title.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 0:07:46 GMT -5
I can't stop laughing, if this is true they are hilariously clueless. "Brock, we're going to build you up. Turn you into the unstoppable beast you should have been from the moment you got here. First you're going to beat The Undertaker and break the streak; it's going to be an unforgettable moment, and then go on a run of dominance, destroying Cena, Reigns and Rollins and being the WWE champion. This is all so we can eventually build up someone to finally beat you; The Undertaker." And hey, if they ever need Brock to get over again, he can beat Undertaker or Triple H or Cena again. And then they can get their heat back by beating the common wrestlers. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 25, 2015 9:40:59 GMT -5
Wade Keller made an interesting point about this on Austin's family friendly show after Battleground. Summarised:
Basically, it could be Taker's professional pride coming into play here. Objectively, the WM30 match with Lesnar was bad, and Taker looked bad. It wasn't really his fault though as he was legit concussed and dazed for three quarters of the match. Perhaps he doesn't want people to remember him like that, it's not neccesarily that he needs to beat Brock, but rather that he wants to put in a better showing against The Beast, and show he can still deliver.
The reason it is at Summerslam is perhaps he pushed for it for Wrestlemania 32, but Vince already had other plans for Taker and Lesnar for that show so they stage this match at Summerslam instead.
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Post by foxylady79 on Jul 25, 2015 9:53:05 GMT -5
This is the very definition of the whole "new guys don't f***ing matter" shit that's crippled this company. Since when is either of these people "new"? |
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Post by foxylady79 on Jul 25, 2015 9:56:10 GMT -5
Cesaro, Owens, Rusev, Zayn, Balor...but no, we need more Attitude Era guys Vince probably still wants Rock/Brock at an upcoming Mania, which okay, but Rock waltzing in, beating Brock and returning to movies again would be outrageous. "Yup, I'm in my forties and retired but I'm better than every single one of those guys. Anyway, back to movies I go.." As opposed to "I'm almost forty but I'm booked as an unstoppable beast. Time to go home because I'm too spoiled to work a regular schedule like the rest of the suckers on the roster. See you in four months.. thanks for the million Vince". |
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Post by foxylady79 on Jul 25, 2015 9:57:31 GMT -5
Taker could do a rocky balboa storyline (and lose) So this would be Taker II, where he beats Apollo Lesnar? |
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jul 25, 2015 9:59:06 GMT -5
Vince probably still wants Rock/Brock at an upcoming Mania, which okay, but Rock waltzing in, beating Brock and returning to movies again would be outrageous. "Yup, I'm in my forties and retired but I'm better than every single one of those guys. Anyway, back to movies I go.." As opposed to "I'm almost forty but I'm booked as an unstoppable beast. Time to go home because I'm too spoiled to work a regular schedule like the rest of the suckers on the roster. See you in four months.. thanks for the million Vince". Yes, the WWE is much worse off for Brock Lesnar not working a nine minute competitive match against Neville and Heath Slater, LIVE on Superstars. |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jul 25, 2015 10:02:43 GMT -5
Wade Keller made an interesting point about this on Austin's family friendly show after Battleground. Summarised: Basically, it could be Taker's professional pride coming into play here. Objectively, the WM30 match with Lesnar was bad, and Taker looked bad. It wasn't really his fault though as he was legit concussed and dazed for three quarters of the match. Perhaps he doesn't want people to remember him like that, it's not neccesarily that he needs to beat Brock, but rather that he wants to put in a better showing against The Beast, and show he can still deliver. The reason it is at Summerslam is perhaps he pushed for it for Wrestlemania 32, but Vince already had other plans for Taker and Lesnar for that show so they stage this match at Summerslam instead. ----- Just summarising Keller's theory. I have no problems with this at all as long as Taker loses. Normally I feel retiring wrestlers should go out on their backs but after losing his Wrestlemania streak and becasue of his gimmick I would be happy for him to go out winning in his home state of Texas if it's his last match. However he MUST lose to Brock. The fans are starting to cheer Lesnar now and want to see him destroy all manner of rivals so to lose to 50 year old Taker will stop him dead in his tracks. Lesnar should win cleanly and move on to his next feud. As for Taker, he should be pinned in a gallant losing effort and move on to Wrestlemania. I wouldn't mind a Taker vs Cena feud for Wrestlemania. Can you imagine the atmosphere for this infront of 100,000 fans in Texas. Taker winning with a tombstone piledriver in his last match. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 25, 2015 10:05:01 GMT -5
This is the very definition of the whole "new guys don't f***ing matter" shit that's crippled this company. Since when is either of these people "new"? I think the poster means a "new" guy should beat Brock, eventually. Not fifty year old Taker |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 25, 2015 10:06:22 GMT -5
Vince probably still wants Rock/Brock at an upcoming Mania, which okay, but Rock waltzing in, beating Brock and returning to movies again would be outrageous. "Yup, I'm in my forties and retired but I'm better than every single one of those guys. Anyway, back to movies I go.." As opposed to "I'm almost forty but I'm booked as an unstoppable beast. Time to go home because I'm too spoiled to work a regular schedule like the rest of the suckers on the roster. See you in four months.. thanks for the million Vince". I think you've made it quite clear how much you hate Lesnar. Thanks. |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jul 25, 2015 10:10:01 GMT -5
Vince probably still wants Rock/Brock at an upcoming Mania, which okay, but Rock waltzing in, beating Brock and returning to movies again would be outrageous. "Yup, I'm in my forties and retired but I'm better than every single one of those guys. Anyway, back to movies I go.." As opposed to "I'm almost forty but I'm booked as an unstoppable beast. Time to go home because I'm too spoiled to work a regular schedule like the rest of the suckers on the roster. See you in four months.. thanks for the million Vince". If anyone should be booked as unstoppable it's Lesnar. |
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Post by foxylady79 on Jul 25, 2015 10:12:11 GMT -5
As opposed to "I'm almost forty but I'm booked as an unstoppable beast. Time to go home because I'm too spoiled to work a regular schedule like the rest of the suckers on the roster. See you in four months.. thanks for the million Vince". If anyone should be booked as unstoppable it's Lesnar. Because he's big? I thought that sort of thinking was one of Vince's problems. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 25, 2015 10:14:31 GMT -5
If anyone should be booked as unstoppable it's Lesnar. Because he's big? I thought that sort of thinking was one of Vince's problems. But he's not just big. Big hosses like Luger or Warrior are 'big', but they can't move that well or do much other than look muscular. Lesnar is super intimidating, really fast, horrifying strong, incredibly athletic, a good wrestler, good selling. He's a monster. Also a legit badass. |
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jul 25, 2015 10:17:25 GMT -5
I seriously can't think of one positive coming out of Taker getting his win back. Everything that has built Lesnar up would be ruined in one night and that nice little mystique he has right now would be gone.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jul 25, 2015 10:19:28 GMT -5
If anyone should be booked as unstoppable it's Lesnar. Because he's big? I thought that sort of thinking was one of Vince's problems. You seem to be mixing Lesnar up with the big muscle bodybuilders that Vince had a fetish for. Peoples problems with those guys stemmed from the fact that most of them were not very good in the ring. Clearly Lesnar isn't one of them. Lesnar might be booked to destroy guys in the ring right now, but as far as technical wrestling goes, he can go with the best of them. Look at his work from Smackdown back in 2002 as proof of this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 10:20:08 GMT -5
Wade Keller made an interesting point about this on Austin's family friendly show after Battleground. Summarised: Basically, it could be Taker's professional pride coming into play here. Objectively, the WM30 match with Lesnar was bad, and Taker looked bad. It wasn't really his fault though as he was legit concussed and dazed for three quarters of the match. Perhaps he doesn't want people to remember him like that, it's not neccesarily that he needs to beat Brock, but rather that he wants to put in a better showing against The Beast, and show he can still deliver. The reason it is at Summerslam is perhaps he pushed for it for Wrestlemania 32, but Vince already had other plans for Taker and Lesnar for that show so they stage this match at Summerslam instead. ----- Just summarising Keller's theory. Seriously why does Wade Keller keep stealing my theories? Maybe it's time I open my own Pro Wrestling Torch. Well that's taken...Pro Wrestling Lantern. |
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 25, 2015 10:21:50 GMT -5
Because he's big? I thought that sort of thinking was one of Vince's problems. You seem to be mixing Lesnar up with the big muscle bodybuilders that Vince had a fetish for. Peoples problems with those guys stemmed from the fact that most of them were not very good in the ring. Clearly Lesnar isn't one of them. Lesnar might be booked to destroy guys in the ring right now, but as far as technical wrestling goes, he can go with the best of them. Look at his work from Smackdown back in 2002 as proof of this. This. Lesnar is a freak. The way he leaped over the top rope to get to Seth a few weeks back on RAW, or the way he hurdled the barricade at Battleground. Leaping at Taker during the pull apart brawls. The shooting star presses he used to do. Batista in his prime was a similar size to Brock, but far more immobile. Lesnar is a legit freak. |
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jul 25, 2015 13:19:34 GMT -5
Here's a crazy idea for what they could have booked instead if they really had to get Taker on the card:
Lesnar vs Rollins. Match is no DQ or the ref gets MURDERKILLED early on, I'm talking Taker/HHH at Mania 17 level knockout. Lesnar's beating the holy hell out of Rollins,but Rollins is doing his "flip out of the German" spot a ton and making Brock work for it. Some new authority stooges come down, perhaps even Kevin Owens since he's HHH's onscreen buddy, and start screwing with the match. Lesnar's still dominant but the numbers are catching up.
GONG.
Taker comes down. Lesnar & Taker fight back to back against the authority stooges, because Rollins disrespected Kane. Taker promptly turns round, chokeslams BOTH Rollins and Lesnar, leaves. Both guys get up, interference cleared out- Brock wins the title.
Simultaneously, Roman Reigns earns a #1 contender's shot- ideally not in the feud with Bray but beating Sheamus for the briefcase since he was screwed out of it. Either way Roman announces he's facing Lesnar at Summerslam- Roman/Brock II.
Taker on Raw next night explains that he's still angry at Brock for the Streak, but that it's not personal- Rollins' disrespect of his brother is, and even reference all the way back to Shield taking out Taker. At Summerslam, we have Rollins vs Undertaker.
Come Summerslam, Brock beats Roman, but barely- Reigns has learned from their first match. Brock shakes Roman's hand, the first man to win his respect in WWE.
Taker faces Rollins, and unexpectedly, Rollins wins due to interference from HHH himself- who still has resentment over the Mania series. Rollins decides he wants to send a message and gets ready to curb stomp Taker...lights out. Sting appears, saves Undertaker. He's not forgotten how HHH screwed him in their own match. This builds to a big tag match at....some PPV. Possibly Survivor Series but that might take too long. Taker/Sting vs Rollins/HHH. Taker & Sting win, Rollins taking the pin. Post match, Taker & Sting turn to each other and make some signal of a match.
HHH cuts Rollins from the Authority, replacing him with his new favourite son- Kevin Owens. This allows for a Seth Rollins slow face turn, facing off against HHH and winning at say, Survivor Series or the Rumble. Owens attacks him afterwards, and ultimately this builds to Rollins vs Kevin Owens at Mania, or perhaps even set it up as handicap- HHH & Owens vs Rollins- Rollins desperately tries to make amends with Roman & Dean, and finally, a few weeks before Mania, Ambrose saves Rollins.
All in all, this sets up 3-4 big Mania matches: Kevin Owens & HHH vs Dean Ambrose & Seth Rollins, or Owens/Rollins, Authority's new golden boy versus the former favourite, and HHH/Ambrose with Ambrose being the man to FINALLY topple the Authority for good by beating HHH, the dream match of Sting vs The Undertaker, and Roman/Brock 3, with Roman finally toppling Brock. Next night on Raw, all 3 of the Shield face off, and we build for Mania 33, Shield Triple Threat.
Long-term booking and does have the issue of who gets the Rumble win- do you go with Roman twice, or possibly have Ambrose win the Rumble but then somehow gets screwed of his title shot by HHH- and also means we're really holding off on the Shield 3-way, but I dunno. I'd prefer it to Brock giving Taker his win back.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Jul 25, 2015 15:33:22 GMT -5
God, this company sucks.
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Jul 25, 2015 22:32:20 GMT -5
I'm interested to see how it all plays out.
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