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Post by Prince Petty on Aug 30, 2015 14:38:51 GMT -5
And the Japanese using Nazi iconography isn't offensive IMO, it's cultural. They use the imagery to imply "bad-guy" a lot. Look at M Bison in Street Fighter, his outfit is lifted straight from Nazi inspiration. It's akin to an American seeing the Rising Sun iconography and not batting an eye. Things get lost in translation of culture a lot. Hell, Nazi-like symbolism and imagery is used in western culture to signify fascist or totalitarian societies. Look at the Starship Troopers movie, as a good example. Using the actual Nazi symbols is very problematic, using stuff that is derived or inspired by them is an easy shorthand. Terms like 'jackbooted thugs', which derives directly from the SA stormtroopers, have entered the common parlance of our culture. Of course, the Nazis themselves understood the power of symbols better than most. It's no coincidence that all their paraphernalia had skulls and eagles and lightning bolts on it. They sought to impose themselves on their opponents through every means at their disposal. In Japan and other countries, I think they do the same thing in terms of using that imagery as a shorthand, but just don't have the same sensitivity to the actual Nazi symbols being used, that we have. And this isn't a defence of that Japanese wrestler, because I don't care one whit about her, I don't watch Japanese wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 14:41:01 GMT -5
Who is this post attacking collectors or actual supporters? because it's a mixed signal. It's mocking those who have flattering displays of symbols of vicious ideologies, yet deny any sympathy for the ideology itself. Okay i just wasn't sure who you were mocking i will say most of the collectors i know usually keep the stuff in boxes only ever met one person who actually displayed stuff it's not very common from my observations. |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Aug 30, 2015 15:05:53 GMT -5
I love how when a respected Japanese woman wrestler is brought up wearing Nazi gear she is 100% defended. I don't even know who the hell she is and I bet that I'm not alone. |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Aug 30, 2015 15:15:18 GMT -5
Are you sure? I'm not aware that Motorhead promotes white supremacism, unless you're talking about HHH's use of the iron cross? When Motorhead played HHH's entrance music at Wrestlemania 21 Lemmy was playing a guitar that had the iron eagle and swastika symbol encrusted on it. He also collects Nazi memorabilia and displays it in his home, and wears Nazi regalia. If we're regarding this woman as a Nazi sympathizer for sharing a picture of it then the same must apply to Lemmy. Wait a minute why is Lemmy getting a pass here? This woman sounds like a bitch but before her Facebook comments were posted people were still attacking her for displaying Nazi memorabilia. I have no problem with people collecting it but if people openly display it (and only ONE side of the war) in their home and also have it encrusted on a guitar they play in public they should be called out for it. Seems like one rule for one and another for someone else. |
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Post by alred1982 on Aug 30, 2015 15:25:32 GMT -5
They've leaked her Titantron already:  someone needs a father ted gimmick like last week |
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Post by SAJ Forth on Aug 30, 2015 15:29:48 GMT -5
Jeez this woman is trouble, and not in the cool Ethan Carter way.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 30, 2015 15:31:19 GMT -5
I've been doing alot of reading about the Holocaust recently, and yeah, f*** this bitch.
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 30, 2015 15:44:42 GMT -5
It's akin to an American seeing the Rising Sun iconography and not batting an eye. Things get lost in translation of culture a lot. I'm a little confused what you mean with this. Please explain. Rising sun was the symbol of the japanese imperial army. Basically their swastica. It's seen more widespread because of americans and europeans not really taking that japanese were commiting mass genocide under that banner |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 30, 2015 16:14:00 GMT -5
Stupidity is not an excuse. Hiding behind the Buddhist origin of the image is not an excuse when both images are directly related to the Nazi party. Wanting to be a "special snowflake" or whatever isn't an excuse either.
f*** her, she should be kicked out on her ass. I don't call for the firings of people in developmental, unless they're pulling stupid shit in the public eye.
Emma got fired (and subsequently reinstated) through the whole stealing iPhone case episode. Fire this horrible human being.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 30, 2015 16:16:43 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is trying to excuse her, to be fair.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 30, 2015 16:27:25 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not defending her in anyway. Just because I see different fault in her actions doesn't mean I don't see fault. She's shitty regardless, let's not get that twisted here.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 30, 2015 16:42:54 GMT -5
She seems awfully dumb. I don't think she's a racist but between this and her having no problem going after a married man (who got his own share of flak), I'm not crying a river for her if she gets fired.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 16:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 30, 2015 16:52:04 GMT -5
Oh well yeah then she's racist as all get out then. That settles that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 16:53:28 GMT -5
Now that this has been settled, who's up for some fried chicken?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 30, 2015 16:54:41 GMT -5
*raises hand*
Actually the new hot trend in Mod Land is discussing ice cream today.
Particularly what girslscout cookie flavored ice cream is best.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 16:55:41 GMT -5
*raises hand* Actually the new hot trend in Mod Land is discussing ice cream today. Particularly what girslscout cookie flavored ice cream is best. Dude, I had this orange ice cream thing on Friday that was the bomb. Whatever it was, it was great. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 16:55:50 GMT -5
Can't wait for the "I was in a bad place" tweet. Has anymore tweeted all this to the WWE account?
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Aug 30, 2015 16:57:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 16:57:35 GMT -5
This has inspired my next drawing of a phone acting as a parasite.
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