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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 10, 2015 22:41:19 GMT -5
I don't think Cena can be called a "draw" at this point; WWE's numbers have been on a slow decline for years, and it's not so much that he's bringing people into it as, due to being presented as the guy on top, being the point that kids fixate when they start. I feel like you need to actually be pulling in business and interest to qualify as a draw.
But just to be top guy? Someone will. Punk was on his way to before his legs got cut out from under him. Bryan was legit that guy until he got injured right after hitting it big. Owens debuted on fire and sold a shitton of t-shirts if the amount I saw at a metal festival last month is any indication. Honestly, I think at this point it's not a matter of "will anybody?" so much as "will they be allowed to". Somebody is bound to take the place of top guy once Cena is gone, hopefully not for as long or against quite as much of the audience's will, but I think WWE will always be a company that tries to emulate its glory days with a single shining star on top rather than letting the brand and its roster as a whole be the selling point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 22:51:36 GMT -5
Cena's successor is still going to be Reigns, it's just going to take them (much) longer than they planned to get him to Cena's level.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 10, 2015 23:13:27 GMT -5
Cena's successor is still going to be Reigns, it's just going to take them (much) longer than they planned to get him to Cena's level. You know Cena wasn't supposed to be in that spot, it was meant to be Orton. These things don't always go the way WWE wants them to.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 10, 2015 23:15:00 GMT -5
Cena's successor is still going to be Reigns, it's just going to take them (much) longer than they planned to get him to Cena's level. You know Cena wasn't supposed to be in that spot, it was meant to be Orton. These things don't always go the way WWE wants them to. Batista was also slotted for this spot at one point. You never truly know how stuff is gonna shake out.
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Post by freeze Austin on Sept 10, 2015 23:18:00 GMT -5
There can be.
In order to truly move the needle or at least win back some of the fanbase that's slowly eroded away-- and if they're truly intent on going with the "ride one horse until it collapses" strategy that I've never really been keen on-- it'll have to be someone with a completely different look and personality from what they've got with Cena while still being "marketable".
To me, of the guys currently on the main roster, that's clearly Dean Ambrose.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 10, 2015 23:21:09 GMT -5
You know Cena wasn't supposed to be in that spot, it was meant to be Orton. These things don't always go the way WWE wants them to. Batista was also slotted for this spot at one point. You never truly know how stuff is gonna shake out. I'm not sure he was. By the time Batista had stumbled into Orton's spot, Cena was already basically established as a top guy. Also the fact they switched him to SmackDown so early in his reign seems to support the idea that they wanted to back Cena more.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 10, 2015 23:24:20 GMT -5
Batista was also slotted for this spot at one point. You never truly know how stuff is gonna shake out. I'm not sure he was. By the time Batista had stumbled into Orton's spot, Cena was already basically established as a top guy. Also the fact they switched him to SmackDown so early in his reign seems to support the idea that they wanted to back Cena more. The reason why he got moved to Smackdown though was because he was perceived as the bigger star and the guy Smackdown needed more. Batista was actually a bigger draw than Cena until he got hurt in 2006 and never really did the same business after that.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 10, 2015 23:34:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure he was. By the time Batista had stumbled into Orton's spot, Cena was already basically established as a top guy. Also the fact they switched him to SmackDown so early in his reign seems to support the idea that they wanted to back Cena more. The reason why he got moved to Smackdown though was because he was perceived as the bigger star and the guy Smackdown needed more. Batista was actually a bigger draw than Cena until he got hurt in 2006 and never really did the same business after that. Right, I think I might have heard that before, now that I think of it.
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Post by yash on Sept 11, 2015 0:09:45 GMT -5
There can be. In order to truly move the needle or at least win back some of the fanbase that's slowly eroded away-- and if they're truly intent on going with the "ride one horse until it collapses" strategy that I've never really been keen on-- it'll have to be someone with a completely different look and personality from what they've got with Cena while still being "marketable". To me, of the guys currently on the main roster, that's clearly Dean Ambrose. I don't know what does ambrose have that so many are on his bandwagon hailing him as next Austin and what not.he's an alright worker with good mic skills.right now wwe is flooded with guys as good as him.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 11, 2015 0:19:13 GMT -5
Someone's always gonna be the top draw by default. Right now it's Brock when he works, Cena otherwise.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Sept 11, 2015 0:25:36 GMT -5
There can be. In order to truly move the needle or at least win back some of the fanbase that's slowly eroded away-- and if they're truly intent on going with the "ride one horse until it collapses" strategy that I've never really been keen on-- it'll have to be someone with a completely different look and personality from what they've got with Cena while still being "marketable". To me, of the guys currently on the main roster, that's clearly Dean Ambrose. I don't know what does ambrose have that so many are on his bandwagon hailing him as next Austin and what not.he's an alright worker with good mic skills.right now wwe is flooded with guys as good as him. Ambrose has IT. Not everyone has IT.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 11, 2015 0:32:32 GMT -5
Well, Austin and Rock didn't exactly look like the main draws when they first came in, so anything can happen.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 11, 2015 1:02:12 GMT -5
its really up to the WWE. Daniel Bryan had everything to fulfill that role except his health. But WWE doesn't like pushing him. Royal Rumble 2015 and thrown in a mid card title curtain jerker schmoz at mania proves that. (whether or not his health has anything to do with that is debatable)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 3:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 7:11:13 GMT -5
There's no reason why Kevin Owens can't be.
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Post by mrtuesday on Sept 11, 2015 7:11:33 GMT -5
The main draw for WWE right now is the WWE brand itself. Hardly anyone goes to see a specific wrestler, they just go because it's WWE.
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Post by No Name is needed Bro Beans on Sept 11, 2015 7:22:50 GMT -5
I can't say that not with future superstar Bull Dempsey sitting right there in developmental just waiting to be the Heartbreak Kid 2.0 and Face of the company
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 11, 2015 8:31:26 GMT -5
There will be because there is going to be a time where Cena isn't going to be around. WWE had chances to make a new flag ship guy but because of health reasons or not living to there standards they went back to Cena. Bryan could done it but health became the issue and I think Bryan is stuck with it and the WWE isn't going to put the ball in his court again because of the risk plus his size. Ambrose should be but again he not the guy they wanted. Roman was but when fans rejected it in the worst way. They again went back to Cena. They wanted Roman because he closest in the bigger sized power guy Vince LOVES. Austin was a Bryan situation a guy who got mega over and couldn't be denied but was able to still work with health issues.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 11, 2015 8:38:04 GMT -5
The main draw for WWE right now is the WWE brand itself. Hardly anyone goes to see a specific wrestler, they just go because it's WWE. WWE is the Final Fantasy of wrasslin`.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 11, 2015 8:44:26 GMT -5
No. Somebody always comes along and become that guy. Cena wasn't penciled in to be the guy until it actually happened. Just a matter of crowd reaction and superstar connection. His first match was with Kurt Angle and his first feud was with Chris Jericho. While they cooled on him a little bit, he was always destined for the top spot. He was never seriously depushed before the rapper act took off, he was just at the level he should have been at that point of his career. While Cena probably wasn't intended to be the face of Raw, they clearly wanted Orton for that, he would have main evented Smackdown and held their world title no matter what.
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