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Post by ben:friendship frog on Oct 29, 2015 20:46:52 GMT -5
I'm a Brit but I know the stuff with Trump which I'm guessing this is somehow derived from. I don't understand why I'm supposed to boo the coming together of American and Mexican people.
Zeb: We are striving to finally achieve World peace! Cole: That bastard!
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Oct 29, 2015 21:19:21 GMT -5
I was gonna make this same thread. The other thing I don't understand is why they're alleged "big Latino star" is a bad guy.
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Post by Richard on Oct 29, 2015 21:33:17 GMT -5
Because they hate people not from Mexico or America (and soon to be not in their stable). Calling Neville a disgusting immigrant and saying "they" would never touch his title pretty much spelled it out.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 29, 2015 21:36:21 GMT -5
Bigger question. Why did they pair him with Zeb? If I didn't know how invested they were in Del Rio, I'd think they were sabotaging him. I DON'T think that. I think WWE honestly thinks it's a good idea.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 29, 2015 22:00:15 GMT -5
They're disingenuous. At least that's what I've taken from it thus far. It's a literal false flag operation; they're in it for themselves.
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Post by Instant Classic on Oct 29, 2015 22:05:22 GMT -5
I am not liking this pairing atm.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 29, 2015 22:07:42 GMT -5
Bigger question. Why did they pair him with Zeb? If I didn't know how invested they were in Del Rio, I'd think they were sabotaging him. I DON'T think that. I think WWE honestly thinks it's a good idea. Why does Del Rio even need a manager? He can talk on his own. And I don't like how they've seemingly forgotten about Swagger.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Oct 29, 2015 22:29:00 GMT -5
Because them together seems forced and awkward?
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Post by Chiral on Oct 29, 2015 22:33:14 GMT -5
They're heel because they have to face off against Team Europe at Survivor Series (Sheamus/Barrett/etc/)....who are also heels. Wait I can figure this one out.
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 30, 2015 0:51:54 GMT -5
I think they're heel so Del Rio can eventually turn on Zeb and become a bigger babyface than ever before. In theory...
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 30, 2015 1:12:08 GMT -5
Bigger question. Why did they pair him with Zeb? If I didn't know how invested they were in Del Rio, I'd think they were sabotaging him. I DON'T think that. I think WWE honestly thinks it's a good idea. Why does Del Rio even need a manager? He can talk on his own. And I don't like how they've seemingly forgotten about Swagger. Until they try to get Swagger to join their new stable and he slaps the taste out of del Rio's mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 1:17:23 GMT -5
I don't understand why they keep trying to run this nationalist angle with Del Rio...this is the second time in two years that they've gone down this road.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 30, 2015 1:24:00 GMT -5
The WWE just signed their Latino mega star! Let's make him a heel.
I'm starting to think this Hispanic hero narrative that the dirty sheets are pushing isn't exactly correct.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Oct 30, 2015 8:08:23 GMT -5
Maybe Vince genuinly thinks that Zeb is a face and that it will help that mexican dude Del Rio to be over with the true americans? After all Vince is a personnal friend of Trump and probably share most of his ideas political views?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 30, 2015 8:15:21 GMT -5
Because "Creative" just doesn't have any useful ideas for ADR.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 30, 2015 8:39:03 GMT -5
Why does Del Rio even need a manager? He can talk on his own. Del Rio was the rare guy who had a fantastic mouthpiece...but could also talk on his own. Absent WWE's creative input, Del Rio is, imo, one of the best talents working today. He's that total package. He can work as a good guy or a bad guy. He can wrestle, talk, and carry himself appropriately inside and outside the ring. It's just the people telling him what to say either don't have a clue, or are hell bent on appeasing others who don't. Right now, with the political climate in the US, Del Rio would be perfect in an anti-hero role. Not a smiling babyface, but not a "the people in this crowd and their local sports team SUCK!" mustache-twirling heel. He built up some real good will by taking his ball and going home in the face of some pretty blatant racism in WWE, so making him a straight-up heel seems a bit short-sighted. Plus, he beat Cena, clean as a sheet, which built up some immediate goodwill with the over-16 fanbase. Plus, they paired him with Zeb, who is second only to Paul Heyman in the "can do no wrong" manager role for fans who've been around for a bit. Bring back Ricardo and pair him with Del Rio. Put Zeb with somebody who could make use of one of the best talkers in wrestling history.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Oct 30, 2015 8:51:48 GMT -5
Because its a dumb gimmick that people are thinking about way to much
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Post by Bo Rida on Oct 30, 2015 9:39:45 GMT -5
Bigger question. Why did they pair him with Zeb? If I didn't know how invested they were in Del Rio, I'd think they were sabotaging him. I DON'T think that. I think WWE honestly thinks it's a good idea. Why does Del Rio even need a manager? He can talk on his own. ADR must have improved a lot since his last run as all I can remember is him repeating "destiny, perro, destiny, perro, gringo, destiny" and a complete lack of spontaneity (or the impression of it). That said I'm not sure why Zeb and this gimmick is the way to alleviate to that problem, it still has the stench of his WM feud with Swagger which I put up there with the all-time worst high-profile angles.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 30, 2015 9:41:51 GMT -5
Because look at this cocky cocky heel right now.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 30, 2015 9:46:14 GMT -5
Bigger question. Why did they pair him with Zeb? If I didn't know how invested they were in Del Rio, I'd think they were sabotaging him. I DON'T think that. I think WWE honestly thinks it's a good idea. Why does Del Rio even need a manager? He can talk on his own. He really can't though. At least, I don't think so. He's got all the physical charisma in the world but promos have never been his strong suit. He can talk clearly despite the accent but that's the only real positive to him. He's fine but you need to be a bit better than "fine" to be a top guy in modern WWE. Zeb not only can carry the promos but he adds a whole other dimension to the act. It's kinda like New Day and Xaiver Woods. Obviously, Kofi and Big E don't NEED Xavier to be on the outside cheerleading (or even wrestling) but he adds a ton to the act. Del Rio was ice cold when he left and with the way WWE books, he needs all the help he can get.
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