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Post by StormanReigns on Nov 7, 2015 15:13:08 GMT -5
I like college basketball, but to me the NBA is terrible.
Height seems to be more important thank skill in the NBA. Travelling does not get called if you make over $10m/year. Some NBA teams actually have a worse long FG percentage than college teams, because the NBA is more focused on letting big guys make 5 foot or less shots.
I get the superstar appeal in the NBA, it is a league that is great at marketing, but as a sport, it is worse than its amateur/collegiate counter part.
To me, the NBA is more sports entertainment, than sport sometimes.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 7, 2015 18:54:38 GMT -5
Golf. Unless you have some skill, it's a terrible time. Other sports you could suck huge in, but still find some ways to enjoy it while playing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 18:58:24 GMT -5
This is more of a cultural thing as I don't understand the rules and haven't even seen much of it really but Cricket makes zero sense to me.
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Post by unc40 on Nov 7, 2015 23:09:46 GMT -5
Golf is extremely boring and have no idea why it's popular.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Nov 8, 2015 11:12:39 GMT -5
This is more of a cultural thing as I don't understand the rules and haven't even seen much of it really but Cricket makes zero sense to me. Nobody understands cricket, pal. You have to know what a crumpet is to understand cricket.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 13:13:50 GMT -5
This is more of a cultural thing as I don't understand the rules and haven't even seen much of it really but Cricket makes zero sense to me. Nobody understands cricket, pal. You have to know what a crumpet is to understand cricket. I know what a crumpet is and cricket is still mystifying. What the hell is up with the fractional scoring?
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Post by The_Don_Mecha on Nov 8, 2015 13:21:23 GMT -5
For all of its worldwide popularity, football (soccer) is such a plodding sport to watch and play.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 8, 2015 14:02:56 GMT -5
I like college basketball, but to me the NBA is terrible. Height seems to be more important thank skill in the NBA. Travelling does not get called if you make over $10m/year. Some NBA teams actually have a worse long FG percentage than college teams, because the NBA is more focused on letting big guys make 5 foot or less shots. I get the superstar appeal in the NBA, it is a league that is great at marketing, but as a sport, it is worse than its amateur/collegiate counter part. To me, the NBA is more sports entertainment, than sport sometimes. I feel some of the same ways about NFL in a lot of ways. I get that people like seeing others hit each other. But it's not the only contact sport and it is nerfed to the max, so there's that, first of all. People complain about baseball's pace and length, but I get the same from NFL where it seems like there is a break in play every three or four real-time minutes. Refs can't get anything right, so what is the point of having them? Just go to the booth for 12 or 13 hours straight for a call to be made. And the worst? The rules. Geezus H. Pinafore. A catch is not a catch. He didn't make "a football move." He doesn't have possession. It's not a fumble. The contact came within five yards of the line of scrimmage. Was there a receiver within the vicinity of the attempted pass? I can go on and on and on. It's called "a real man's game," but there are the most sissyfied and asinine rules in this sport than any other. Play the effing game, you saps! The penalties never seem to fit the actual foul, either underpenalized or overpenalized. I have so much hate for NFL, and it's not "being a hater." I love the concept of the game itself. But it's seriously the Facebook of all sports. It's what Twilight is to literature. It's contrived and at its current level of play is the biggest bore in the world. It's like when people at your work talk about Grey's Anatomy all day the next day after it airs. Nothing really of value happened. But it's a social phenomena and you just have to keep up. I wish it were more of a real game than its current asinine state. Say what you will about supposedly "slower" games, but I see more finesse and toughness out of players on something like the soccer pitch than the *most* of the pretty boys who strap on a helmet and penalty-flag happy referees.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 8, 2015 17:50:58 GMT -5
Golf is extremely boring and have no idea why it's popular. My befuddlement is on watching it on TV. Like why? Its terribly boring. Also I think soccer is a boring sport but I get why its popular. How ever if we erased all sports from earth and started anew basketball would be what soccer is in terms of worldwide popularity.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 8, 2015 19:21:53 GMT -5
I like college basketball, but to me the NBA is terrible. Height seems to be more important thank skill in the NBA. Travelling does not get called if you make over $10m/year. Some NBA teams actually have a worse long FG percentage than college teams, because the NBA is more focused on letting big guys make 5 foot or less shots. I get the superstar appeal in the NBA, it is a league that is great at marketing, but as a sport, it is worse than its amateur/collegiate counter part. To me, the NBA is more sports entertainment, than sport sometimes. Yes, because a 7'2 guy is currently the best player in the NBA and the reigning MVP/best player on a title team. Not a 6'3 point guard breaking shooting records.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 8, 2015 19:28:26 GMT -5
Yeah Golf is the obvious choice here
It's GREAT if you want to take a nap though.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 8, 2015 20:36:46 GMT -5
I've certainly enjoyed watching football over the years, but I admit I can't comprehend why it's as popular as it is. The game itself is the slowest and, as said before, the most plodding of the big four in North America; I hear people whine about baseball's pace all the time, but I love what goes on in between pitches during baseball, whereas with football the time between plays can get interminable, particularly when you factor in regular and TV time outs (though that's more a NFL problem).
I'll venture that a lot of the NFL's current unparalleled popularity has a lot to do with the ease of gambling involved as well as a fan cultural aspect of tailgating and only having one game a week to go all out for. Again, I don't hate the sport at all, but among the sports I love, it's far behind baseball and hockey.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 8, 2015 21:36:43 GMT -5
If you think height is more important than skill in the NBA, then you've never suffered through a Shawn Bradley or Manute Bol game. Sure, most good players will be taller than average, but that's true of any sport. I've certainly enjoyed watching football over the years, but I admit I can't comprehend why it's as popular as it is. The game itself is the slowest and, as said before, the most plodding of the big four in North America; I hear people whine about baseball's pace all the time, but I love what goes on in between pitches during baseball, whereas with football the time between plays can get interminable, particularly when you factor in regular and TV time outs (though that's more a NFL problem). I'll venture that a lot of the NFL's current unparalleled popularity has a lot to do with the ease of gambling involved as well as a fan cultural aspect of tailgating and only having one game a week to go all out for. Again, I don't hate the sport at all, but among the sports I love, it's far behind baseball and hockey. Not to mention that college football is just a giant popularity contest in deciding who gets to play for the title. This year, no one is even pretending that win-loss records matter more than name recongition.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 9, 2015 14:09:22 GMT -5
Golf. Unless you have some skill, it's a terrible time. Other sports you could suck huge in, but still find some ways to enjoy it while playing. I'm terrible at it but have a lot of fun playing it. Watching it on the other hand....
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Post by StormanReigns on Nov 9, 2015 15:33:03 GMT -5
I like college basketball, but to me the NBA is terrible. Height seems to be more important thank skill in the NBA. Travelling does not get called if you make over $10m/year. Some NBA teams actually have a worse long FG percentage than college teams, because the NBA is more focused on letting big guys make 5 foot or less shots. I get the superstar appeal in the NBA, it is a league that is great at marketing, but as a sport, it is worse than its amateur/collegiate counter part. To me, the NBA is more sports entertainment, than sport sometimes. Yes, because a 7'2 guy is currently the best player in the NBA and the reigning MVP/best player on a title team. Not a 6'3 point guard breaking shooting records. Shaq is one of the worst athletes of all time. What Currey is doing is great, but most teams still rely on the big man. Also, my criticisms of the NBA did not end at tall players. Unlike college, NBA teams are extremely reliant one 1-2 players. No other sport in the world can you lose one player, and go from the best in the league, to the bottom. The NBA also lacks fundamentals. Certain rules just do not apply to a lot of players making a certain amount of money.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 9, 2015 17:12:09 GMT -5
The NBA is an insanely high level of basketball, with no other league in the world even approaching its talent level, but yeah, it's hard for me to get into it due to how quickly a team can go from bottom to tops and back down again. I think a big reason I enjoy MLB and the NHL is that there's a science, so to speak, to building a long term, consistent winning team that involves watching your club fall, watching them draft and rebuild, then getting to follow them as the grow and improve. Some of that definitely exists in the NBA, but I can't get the same kick out of seeing a bad club make a couple of expensive signings or get to draft a top guy or two and then be all "hey, the bad times are over, you guys!"
Then again, that's a reason why I've admired the San Antonio Spurs. Much like my Devils in the NHL, people whined about them being "boring", yet in a league with huge variance and teams going from worst-to-first-and-back-again due to the arrivals and departures of superstars, they've managed to remain a constant title threat. That's pretty cool, at least.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Nov 9, 2015 18:34:44 GMT -5
College basketball. Yeah, I said it.
Teams breaking 80 points is stop the presses stuff.
Teams can't shoot well. It's no fun watching team after team struggle to shoot.
Remember when UCLA played Kentucky last year? Not even the Knicks/Sixers would look THAT bad.
Fundamentals apparently are more exciting than actually putting the ball in the bucket.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 9, 2015 20:01:59 GMT -5
Yes, because a 7'2 guy is currently the best player in the NBA and the reigning MVP/best player on a title team. Not a 6'3 point guard breaking shooting records. Shaq is one of the worst athletes of all time.What Currey is doing is great, but most teams still rely on the big man. Also, my criticisms of the NBA did not end at tall players. Unlike college, NBA teams are extremely reliant one 1-2 players. No other sport in the world can you lose one player, and go from the best in the league, to the bottom. The NBA also lacks fundamentals. Certain rules just do not apply to a lot of players making a certain amount of money.
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Post by comahan on Nov 9, 2015 20:26:06 GMT -5
Yes, because a 7'2 guy is currently the best player in the NBA and the reigning MVP/best player on a title team. Not a 6'3 point guard breaking shooting records. Shaq is one of the worst athletes of all time. What Currey is doing is great, but most teams still rely on the big man. Also, my criticisms of the NBA did not end at tall players. Unlike college, NBA teams are extremely reliant one 1-2 players. No other sport in the world can you lose one player, and go from the best in the league, to the bottom. The NBA also lacks fundamentals. Certain rules just do not apply to a lot of players making a certain amount of money. I literally disagree with this entire post. Shaq was an INCREDIBLE athlete. One of the most freakish athletes of all time. It wasn't just his size that made him amazing, it was the fact that he was perhaps the best athlete in the NBA to go along with his behemoth stature. He also had fantastic touch and footwork for a big man, his bread and butter shot being a midrange hook that very few big men in history can replicate. The NBA is perimeter focused and has been since the rule chance that eliminated hand checking. Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni's Suns in the mid 2000's changed the league in that respect, becoming the first team to take advantage of those rules and usher in the pace-and-space era. Last years NBA Champion Golden State Warriors -- one of the greatest teams of all time who won 67 games and had the #1 offense AND defense and put up astronomical point differentials -- are purely perimeter focused. In the finals, those Warriors played a Cavs team led by LeBron James, a perimeter player who has been the best player in the league for nearly a decade. At least, until this year where it looks like a tiny point guard has taken his throne. Last years Houston Rockets, the #2 seed in the west, had their dominant center Dwight Howard miss a majority of the season, but were carried by great perimeter play in the form of James Harden. There's a virtual consensus on who the top 7 players in the NBA are right now. In no order, it's LeBron, Durant, Curry, Davis, Harden, Paul, and Westbrook. That's 3 Point Guards, a Shooting Guard, a Small Forward, and a Power Forward. The best big man in the NBA right now, Anthony Davis, is on a team that is 0-6. He is a MONSTER, but his team can't win a game because his perimeter help is bad. The NBA is insanely perimeter focused these days. Jump shooting records are being shattered, and most scoring inside the paint are by guards who penetrate and finish at the rim. No other sport relies on 1-2 players? The NFL is INSANELY reliant on the QB. There's not even a close #2. If you don't have a good QB, the rest of your roster needs to be absolutely outrageous to even stand a chance. If you have a great QB, you make the playoffs every year without trouble. Just look at the year Peyton Manning got hurt for Indy. They go from Super Bowl contender to 2-14 and getting the #1 overall pick based solely on his injury. The current Packers without Aaron Rodgers would be very ugly. Give the current Houston Texans a good (not great, just good) QB and they go from trash to an automatic playoff team.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 9, 2015 20:30:29 GMT -5
Shaq is one of the worst athletes of all time. What Currey is doing is great, but most teams still rely on the big man. Also, my criticisms of the NBA did not end at tall players. Unlike college, NBA teams are extremely reliant one 1-2 players. No other sport in the world can you lose one player, and go from the best in the league, to the bottom. The NBA also lacks fundamentals. Certain rules just do not apply to a lot of players making a certain amount of money. I literally disagree with this entire post. Shaq was an INCREDIBLE athlete. One of the most freakish athletes of all time. It wasn't just his size that made him amazing, it was the fact that he was perhaps the best athlete in the NBA to go along with his behemoth stature. He also had fantastic touch and footwork for a big man, his bread and butter shot being a midrange hook that very few big men in history can replicate. The NBA is perimeter focused and has been since the rule chance that eliminated hand checking. Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni's Suns in the mid 2000's changed the league in that respect, becoming the first team to take advantage of those rules and usher in the pace-and-space era. Last years NBA Champion Golden State Warriors -- one of the greatest teams of all time who won 67 games and had the #1 offense AND defense and put up astronomical point differentials -- are purely perimeter focused. In the finals, those Warriors played a Cavs team led by LeBron James, a perimeter player who has been the best player in the league for nearly a decade. At least, until this year where it looks like a tiny point guard has taken his throne. Last years Houston Rockets, the #2 seed in the west, had their dominant center Dwight Howard miss a majority of the season, but were carried by dominant perimeter play in the form of James Harden. There's a virtual consensus on who the top 7 players in the NBA are right now. In no order, it's LeBron, Durant, Curry, Davis, Harden, Paul, and Westbrook. That's 3 Point Guards, a Shooting Guard, a Small Forward, and a Power Forward. The best big man in the NBA right now, Anthony Davis, is on a team that is 0-6. He is a MONSTER, but his team can't win a game because his perimeter help is bad. The NBA is insanely perimeter focused these days. Jump shooting records are being shattered, and most scoring inside the paint are by guards who penetrate and finish at the rim. No other sport relies on 1-2 players? The NFL is INSANELY reliant on the QB. There's not even a close #2. If you don't have a good QB, the rest of your roster needs to be absolutely outrageous to even stand a chance. If you have a great QB, you make the playoffs every year without trouble. Just look at the year Peyton Manning got hurt for Indy. They go from Super Bowl contender to 2-14 and getting the #1 overall pick based solely on his injury. The current Packers without Aaron Rodgers would be very ugly. Give the current Houston Texans a good (not great, just good) QB and they go from trash to an automatic playoff team. I wish I could like this post twice.
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