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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:16:03 GMT -5
After the diva segment when everyone's pissed off, they should have followed up with that dancing R Truth WWE Network animation.
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Post by jagilki on Nov 16, 2015 23:16:38 GMT -5
The ratings for this segment are going to be down there... with Reid! in TNA! |
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 16, 2015 23:17:30 GMT -5
The Reid reference would have been a cruel, but effective, heel remark, but they just haven't established any significant friendship between Paige and Charlotte to make their eventual rivalry pay off. PCB was an on-screen faction for a cup of coffee before Paige turned on them. Then they come up with backstory bullshit about how close they were. It just doesn't work. WWE never understand that.
They'll show two random guys forming a team, then break up a week later, then say "these two guys have been friends for decades, how can X turn on Y???"
It's shitty, lazy, contrived writing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:17:43 GMT -5
The ratings for this segment are going to be down there... with Reid! in TNA! "He's down there...IN THE IMPACT ZONE!" *crowd gasp, knife fight breaks out* |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 16, 2015 23:17:52 GMT -5
Overdosing is a form of suicide Only when it's on purpose, which I don't think his was. It was ruled an accidental overdose. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:18:22 GMT -5
After the diva segment when everyone's pissed off, they should have followed up with that dancing R Truth WWE Network animation.  |
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Nov 16, 2015 23:18:27 GMT -5
Show was pretty good but that final segment was all sorts of awful.
Cesaro-Reigns was amazing and would enjoy watching them have a feud.
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Post by Richard on Nov 16, 2015 23:18:55 GMT -5
I didn't mind the Reid stuff. Cringe worthy sure but it is also the most emotion they've put into the Divas in years and it wasn't like Paige talked about how he died. "Emotion"
Does screaming at each other reflect emotion? Because if it does then I don't want it.
Yeah Charlotte cried but really, to bring that into the feud and make it a center point? That's low grade and desperate.
Anger over Paige's comments, sadness over Charlotte losing her brother, desire to see Charlotte beat Paige into some sort of British themed dessert at Survivor Series. They're using Charlotte's real life to play on peoples' emotions. What they did is classic wrestling. If it is low brow to you (in general) fine but this is the entertainment industry, wrestling in particular and it usually sells. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 16, 2015 23:21:28 GMT -5
"Emotion"
Does screaming at each other reflect emotion? Because if it does then I don't want it.
Yeah Charlotte cried but really, to bring that into the feud and make it a center point? That's low grade and desperate.
Anger over Paige's comments, sadness over Charlotte losing her brother, desire to see Charlotte beat Paige into some sort of British themed dessert at Survivor Series. They're using Charlotte's real life to play on peoples' emotions. What they did is classic wrestling. If it is low brow to you (in general) fine but this is the entertainment industry, wrestling in particular and it usually sells. Unfortunately we're in an age now where people don't get mad at the character for saying those horrible things or beating that person you like, they get mad at the writing staff for writing them to say those horrible things or booking them to beat that guy you like. |
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Post by Talent Name on Nov 16, 2015 23:21:45 GMT -5
I don't know which was worse this or Gunner PTSD expert
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Post by dreidemy on Nov 16, 2015 23:23:32 GMT -5
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 16, 2015 23:25:32 GMT -5
If you pretend the show ended with Roman/Cesaro, it was great.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 16, 2015 23:27:18 GMT -5
Here are the Facts about Raw:
- Neville VS Kevin Owens was Neville’s 1st opener since Smackdown on November 5, Owens’ 1st opener since Raw on November 2, Neville was the 4th week in a row that someone went from the main event of last week’s Raw to the following week’s opener, & their 5th re-match
- R-Truth VS Tyler Breeze was Truth’s 50th match of 2015, making him the 22nd wrestler to compete in 50 matches or more on TV & Pay-Per-View in WWE & NXT
- Dolph Ziggler VS Dean Ambrose was a 1st time match
- Ryback & The Usos VS The New Day was the 60th 6-Man Tag Team Match of 2015, the 2nd week in row Raw had a 6-Man Tag Team Match, the 69th Disqualification of 2015, the 1st Disqualification since Smackdown on November 12, the 1st on Raw since October 19, & Big E’s 75th match of 2015, making him the 5th wrestler to compete in 75 matches or more on TV & Pay-Per-View in 2015
- Roman Reigns VS Cesaro was a 1st time match
- The Dudley Boyz VS The Ascension was both teams’ 1st match on Raw since their last match against each other on October 12, & their 3rd re-match
- Kalisto VS Alberto Del Rio was Kalisto’s 1st main event since Raw on May 25 & Del Rio’s 1st main event since Raw October 26
- This was the 1st Raw since July 13 to not have a Diva’s Match, the 2nd straight show after Smackdown to not have a Diva’s Match
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Post by Talent Name on Nov 16, 2015 23:28:13 GMT -5
Anger over Paige's comments, sadness over Charlotte losing her brother, desire to see Charlotte beat Paige into some sort of British themed dessert at Survivor Series. They're using Charlotte's real life to play on peoples' emotions. What they did is classic wrestling. If it is low brow to you (in general) fine but this is the entertainment industry, wrestling in particular and it usually sells. Unfortunately we're in an age now where people don't get mad at the character for saying those horrible things or beating that person you like, they get mad at the writing staff for writing them to say those horrible things or booking them to beat that guy you like. This is just me but I am mad at both of them for even bringing it up, they are both adults and could mention they don't feel comfortable bringing up an issue like this seeing as it only happened two years ago. For all we know Charlotte is legitimately pissed off and its understandable but the blame is equal to everyone the talent and the writing staff it was almost Russo type writing of going for something shocking to get a reaction out of the audience and the fans. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 16, 2015 23:28:45 GMT -5
"Emotion"
Does screaming at each other reflect emotion? Because if it does then I don't want it.
Yeah Charlotte cried but really, to bring that into the feud and make it a center point? That's low grade and desperate.
Anger over Paige's comments, sadness over Charlotte losing her brother, desire to see Charlotte beat Paige into some sort of British themed dessert at Survivor Series. They're using Charlotte's real life to play on peoples' emotions. What they did is classic wrestling. If it is low brow to you (in general) fine but this is the entertainment industry, wrestling in particular and it usually sells. Even in that sense, this should not have been the first time Reid's name was mentioned on WWE TV. If they are to travel this road, they should at least get the casual fans who don't read news sites up to speed. I get that the intention was to make Paige despised for being so crass, but it's like they came up with this because they had nothing to better to close Raw and they didn't want Cesaro vs. Reigns in the ratings pit called the third hour. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 16, 2015 23:31:33 GMT -5
I give RAW  Out of ten. |
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Post by Richard on Nov 16, 2015 23:32:32 GMT -5
Anger over Paige's comments, sadness over Charlotte losing her brother, desire to see Charlotte beat Paige into some sort of British themed dessert at Survivor Series. They're using Charlotte's real life to play on peoples' emotions. What they did is classic wrestling. If it is low brow to you (in general) fine but this is the entertainment industry, wrestling in particular and it usually sells. Even in that sense, this should not have been the first time Reid's name was mentioned on WWE TV. If they are to travel this road, they should at least get the casual fans who don't read news sites up to speed. I get that the intention was to make Paige despised for being so crass, but it's like they came up with this because they had nothing to better to close Raw and they didn't want Cesaro vs. Reigns in the ratings pit called the third hour. I won't deny that at all (though I thought they talked about it the night Paige turned heel briefly, not enough for this though). I'm just saying that what we saw is wrestling, it is reality TV, it is sports, it is entertainment. It is something that has been used since the dawn of time and to act like WWE did something completely unheard of or out of the realm of what has been shown as acceptable (which is what most of the arguments seem to be to me) is just not right or fair. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 16, 2015 23:34:49 GMT -5
For the ones giving WWE slack for Eddie and Reid exploitation, they never used Owen in that light, they never used Pillman in that light (as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong). That should be the rule.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 16, 2015 23:36:18 GMT -5
They used Pillman's wife to get ratings
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 16, 2015 23:36:31 GMT -5
Even in that sense, this should not have been the first time Reid's name was mentioned on WWE TV. If they are to travel this road, they should at least get the casual fans who don't read news sites up to speed. I get that the intention was to make Paige despised for being so crass, but it's like they came up with this because they had nothing to better to close Raw and they didn't want Cesaro vs. Reigns in the ratings pit called the third hour. I won't deny that at all (though I thought they talked about it the night Paige turned heel briefly, not enough for this though). I'm just saying that what we saw is wrestling, it is reality TV, it is sports, it is entertainment. It is something that has been used since the dawn of time and to act like WWE did something completely unheard of or out of the realm of what has been shown as acceptable (which is what most of the arguments seem to be to me) is just not right or fair. Well, I think part of it is that we really don't trust this company to go down this road from what we've seen in the past. Most of us have seen Eddiesplotation once already, so if they managed to take the red hot NXT Divas Division and make it completely boring on the main roster, why would we trust them with such heavy subject matter again? |
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