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Post by berlynwright on Jan 12, 2016 2:51:58 GMT -5
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 12, 2016 2:58:48 GMT -5
Lame. But it almost fits the way he held on to that belt. No one is getting one over on the King of Strong Style.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 3:01:42 GMT -5
Well that is a lame way to go out and a bit of a slap in the face to Kenny Omega as he challenged Nakamura for the title.
Possibly WWE did not want Nakamura losing on his way out? idk seems like something WWE would be petty about.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 12, 2016 3:02:02 GMT -5
It will be Omega vs Mystery opponent at the New Beginning
2016, man. What a year it's been already
It's a shame such a massive star for them leaving this way. But hope everything works out well for both parties.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 12, 2016 3:05:18 GMT -5
Well that is a lame way to go out and a bit of a slap in the face to Kenny Omega as he challenged Nakamura for the title. Possibly WWE did not want Nakamura losing on his way out? idk seems like something WWE would be petty about. Kenny still beat him clean anyway last week, so i don't think it's a problem of Nakamura losing I guess it's more like pride/loyalty issue with NJPW, moreso that WWE's insistence of making new guys look strong (AJ has lost tonnes of big matches since Dominion). If Karl Anderson is correct, then major contracts for them expire on 31st January and they just let Nakamura's contract expire in this case.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 3:07:29 GMT -5
He vacated the belt? Lame. Though, I can't say I'm looking forward to Omega getting it.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 12, 2016 3:31:14 GMT -5
Goto really should not have lost the title. The match with Styles sold itself anyways, as it was billed as a dream match before an IC title match.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 12, 2016 3:52:42 GMT -5
Card for new beginning
Osaka 11/2
Goto v Okada Shibata v Ishii Bucks v reDRagon v Sydal & Ricochet Yano & Briscoes v Fale, Yujiro & Tama Tonga (NEVER 6 men title)
Niigata 14/2
KUSHIDA v Bushi Makabe & Honma v Anderson & Gallows Kenny Omega v Mystery Opponent (IC Title)
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Post by Sparvid on Jan 12, 2016 6:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by 魔界5号 on Jan 12, 2016 8:26:22 GMT -5
Goto really should not have lost the title. The match with Styles sold itself anyways, as it was billed as a dream match before an IC title match. Plus it would have added way more to Goto vs Naito. Really have no idea why they had him lose it.
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Post by chrom on Jan 12, 2016 9:20:43 GMT -5
What the hell, that's bullshit. You're going out, you go out on your back and drop the belt to someone. That's disrespectful what Nakamura has done.
AJ had no problem or complaints about getting beaten down when he left, this could've been a big shot in the arm for Omega to be viewed as a top guy in New Japan as the one who knocked off Nakamura.
They just made the belt worthless with what he has done, way to be a company man. Goto never should've lost it to him back in September if he was going to pull this stunt.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 12, 2016 10:21:36 GMT -5
Goto really should not have lost the title. The match with Styles sold itself anyways, as it was billed as a dream match before an IC title match. Plus it would have added way more to Goto vs Naito. Really have no idea why they had him lose it. Yeah, it's not like Nakamura could've built the belt up even more, at that point it was just his basic accessory. Goto could've at least used it longer to rehab his image as a main eventer and, yeah, put a bit more oomph behind the Naito Dome match. Besides, then you could build Goto as IC champ taking on the role of "defender of NJPW's honor", as he would be taking stands against disrespectful types like Los Ingobernables (Naito) and Bullet Club (Omega). It'd be a good arc for him and firmly establish Naito and Kenny as the new top heels before all three guys transition toward the Heavy title.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 12, 2016 10:47:54 GMT -5
2/11/16 - The New Beginnings in Osaka NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Championship: The Briscoes and Toru Yano (c) vs. Bad Luck Fale, Tama Tonga and Yujiro Takahashi IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Championship: The Young Bucks (c) vs. reDRagon vs. Ricochet and Matt Sydal NEVER Openweight Championship: Katsuyori Shibata (c) vs. Tomohiro Ishii IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. Hirooki Goto 2/14/16 - The New Beginnings in Niigata IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Championship: KUSHIDA (c) vs. BUSHI IWGP Tag Team Championship: Togi Makabe & Tomoaki Honma (c) vs. Doc Gallows and Karl Anderson IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Kenny Omega vs. ?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 12, 2016 10:52:22 GMT -5
I am shocked that Nakamura isn't dropping the title to someone.
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Post by Phil Parent on Jan 12, 2016 11:05:21 GMT -5
I'm thinking X will be Shelton Benjamin.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jan 12, 2016 11:49:25 GMT -5
MISU~! He's the only one with enough charisma to match Shinskewl!
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Post by chrom on Jan 12, 2016 12:05:24 GMT -5
The mystery opponent can't just be some nobody or some guy they draw out of a hat. It'll have to be a top prospect you know can challenge Omega for it. Elgin is heading to Japan for The Road to shows, it might be him.
I don't see why Nakamura doesn't just drop the belt to Omega at the 30th, it's at Korakuen, it'll be airing live on New Japan World and on Samurai TV, the fans would eat it up.
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Post by mhamm05 on Jan 12, 2016 15:48:01 GMT -5
What the hell, that's bullshit. You're going out, you go out on your back and drop the belt to someone. That's disrespectful what Nakamura has done. AJ had no problem or complaints about getting beaten down when he left, this could've been a big shot in the arm for Omega to be viewed as a top guy in New Japan as the one who knocked off Nakamura. They just made the belt worthless with what he has done, way to be a company man. Goto never should've lost it to him back in September if he was going to pull this stunt. I'll have to find the link, but something I read a while ago said NJPW pushed him to drop title. Maybe he didn't have a choice. Could be a bum story though, too.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 12, 2016 18:31:04 GMT -5
New Japan made the call to strip Nakamura of the title because they knew folks would be expecting him to lose to Omega and they wanted to give him a better sendoff. I don't doubt he'll be going out on his back the next couple of matches including FantasticaMania. But honestly, would Omega get put over in the fans' eyes as a top guy if he pinned someone with half of his body out of the door? He gains no real momentum from that move. This wasn't a WWE call. People assume it is but it's not. Alberto didn't drop the Mega title in AAA because he hated the people who ran the company and WWE feared a double cross. Because how can someone who just lost to KUSHIDA suddenly take down Swagsuke within a month with no real change outside of taking leadership of the Bullet Club? Puroresu likes to build up to moments like that instead of shock pinfalls.
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Post by chrom on Jan 12, 2016 18:43:52 GMT -5
New Japan made the call to strip Nakamura of the title because they knew folks would be expecting him to lose to Omega and they wanted to give him a better sendoff. I don't doubt he'll be going out on his back the next couple of matches including FantasticaMania. But honestly, would Omega get put over in the fans' eyes as a top guy if he pinned someone with half of his body out of the door? He gains no real momentum from that move. This wasn't a WWE call. People assume it is but it's not. Alberto didn't drop the Mega title in AAA because he hated the people who ran the company and WWE feared a double cross. Because how can someone who just lost to KUSHIDA suddenly take down Swagsuke within a month with no real change outside of taking leadership of the Bullet Club? Puroresu likes to build up to moments like that instead of shock pinfalls. 7 days ago he pinned Nakamura CLEANLY in front of everyone watching at Korakuen. Since he's now a Heavyweight this would've been a major shot in the arm for him and he would be known as the guy who ran both AJ and Nakamura out of the company. If you're going out and you're champion as you are, you lose the belt to whoever you defend it against as you leave. You don't just vacate it because you don't feel like it. That's one of the rules in Wrestling that should always be followed. This devalues The IC Belt and will make whoever wins it at New Beginning a Paper Champion since they didn't beat Nakamura.
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