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Post by Nic Nemeth on Dec 19, 2015 1:47:36 GMT -5
That's one of those things you should think about when you watch Balor take on Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 1:50:52 GMT -5
Bo Dallas used to be pretty awesome though.
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Post by Optimax on Dec 19, 2015 2:35:05 GMT -5
Bo Dallas is pretty awesome though. Efa
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Post by mystikz on Dec 19, 2015 2:43:59 GMT -5
Bo Dallas was treated like a damn star then. He was horribly bland and awful and turned it into gold. Especially his interactions with Sami and when he was kicked off NXT.
While Neville was also pretty good as the face of NXT.
It just happens to be Balor now. I know all the hype Joe gets but really I wouldn't put him above any of them. I mean he's been okay in NXT, but not as entertaining as the former champions.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2015 2:56:05 GMT -5
Seth Rollins was also a former NXT champion, as was Big E, wasn't he? Not all of them get a raw deal.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 19, 2015 3:08:33 GMT -5
I think that if Bo stayed in NXT, he'd be NXT's version of a guy who gets pushed to the title and then falls down the card. Between the signing spree of indy and international standouts and down-on-their luck main roster guys with something to prove like Kidd, Riley and Ryder, Bo would likely end up taking a downturn either way.
Bo's downfall wasn't "an evil plot by Kevin Dunn to destroy NXT" so much as it was him falling into his rightful spot on the card in relation to his abilities.
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Post by kevin on Dec 19, 2015 10:52:01 GMT -5
Seth Rollins was also a former NXT champion, as was Big E, wasn't he? Not all of them get a raw deal. Nxt has always been hit or miss from Wade who bacame a star immediately to Kaval who flamed out quickly. Besides I still bolieve.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 19, 2015 11:18:56 GMT -5
Why would I think of that? Their feud may not have been have reached those dizzying heights but Balor vs Joe was still pretty good, there's no need to compare it to the past.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 19, 2015 14:57:37 GMT -5
Maybe next year Balor will be jobbing on Superstars every week while Joe dances in a panda suit.
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Post by saintpat on Dec 19, 2015 15:51:51 GMT -5
Maybe next year Balor will be jobbing on Superstars every week while Joe dances in a panda suit. Crowd: "Joe's a pan-da" "No he's not"
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 19, 2015 15:55:40 GMT -5
And not every WWE champion was good, either. NXT champion good to bad ratio is still great.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Dec 19, 2015 16:07:40 GMT -5
Tyson Kidd once teamed with Jackson Andrews.
Think about that next time you watch him team with Cesaro.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 16:24:58 GMT -5
Bo's downfall wasn't "an evil plot by Kevin Dunn to destroy NXT" so much as it was him falling into his rightful spot on the card in relation to his abilities. Well, when has abilities truly, definitively determined "rightful spot"? Isn't "rightful spot" really a bunch of hogwash considering a handful of people, for the most part, appear to determine where people end up in the card. I know Bo's not among the people in your sig, but considering that he's third generation, his brother is at least upper midcard and has his own stable, and he did get over in his NXT people, isn't it a bit premature to say what his "rightful spot" is?
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Post by saintpat on Dec 19, 2015 16:59:42 GMT -5
Bo brought you cookies, took 10,000 squirt guns to the starving children of Bo-livia ... and this is the thanks he gets.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 19, 2015 18:36:31 GMT -5
Bo's downfall wasn't "an evil plot by Kevin Dunn to destroy NXT" so much as it was him falling into his rightful spot on the card in relation to his abilities. Well, when has abilities truly, definitively determined "rightful spot"? Isn't "rightful spot" really a bunch of hogwash considering a handful of people, for the most part, appear to determine where people end up in the card. I know Bo's not among the people in your sig, but considering that he's third generation, his brother is at least upper midcard and has his own stable, and he did get over in his NXT people, isn't it a bit premature to say what his "rightful spot" is? Bray is a much better worker than Bo and has been since the Husky Harris days. The Army Tank With the Ferrari Engine was my pick to win NXT2 because I enjoyed his ring work. My thing is more the idea that people think Bo should've been upper midcard and mixing it up with the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio with his NXT gimmick in spite of the fact that when his NXT character's heat was based on the idea that the fans thought he legit sucked and was getting pushed ahead of obvious superior talent like Sami Zayn and Neville (who can barely break into the midcard).
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Post by gr1990 on Dec 19, 2015 19:08:02 GMT -5
Well, when has abilities truly, definitively determined "rightful spot"? Isn't "rightful spot" really a bunch of hogwash considering a handful of people, for the most part, appear to determine where people end up in the card. I know Bo's not among the people in your sig, but considering that he's third generation, his brother is at least upper midcard and has his own stable, and he did get over in his NXT people, isn't it a bit premature to say what his "rightful spot" is? Bray is a much better worker than Bo and has been since the Husky Harris days. The Army Tank With the Ferrari Engine was my pick to win NXT2 because I enjoyed his ring work. My thing is more the idea that people think Bo should've been upper midcard and mixing it up with the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio with his NXT gimmick in spite of the fact that when his NXT character's heat was based on the idea that the fans thought he legit sucked and was getting pushed ahead of obvious superior talent like Sami Zayn and Neville (who can barely break into the midcard). It's all subjective obviously, but Bo can connect with a live audience very well indeed, is a decent hand in the ring and has a strong character that he invests fully in. He had heat in NXT because of his bland babyface character in the beginning (which wasn't his fault) but by the end the boos were because he was a genuinely great delusional heel. He might not be main event material, but I'd say his 'rightful spot' is somewhere above 'guy who only appears on Raw when the boss walks out in the middle of his match and cancels it so something important can happen.'
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 19, 2015 20:19:35 GMT -5
Bray is a much better worker than Bo and has been since the Husky Harris days. The Army Tank With the Ferrari Engine was my pick to win NXT2 because I enjoyed his ring work. My thing is more the idea that people think Bo should've been upper midcard and mixing it up with the likes of Ziggler, Ryback and Del Rio with his NXT gimmick in spite of the fact that when his NXT character's heat was based on the idea that the fans thought he legit sucked and was getting pushed ahead of obvious superior talent like Sami Zayn and Neville (who can barely break into the midcard). It's all subjective obviously, but Bo can connect with a live audience very well indeed, is a decent hand in the ring and has a strong character that he invests fully in. He had heat in NXT because of his bland babyface character in the beginning (which wasn't his fault) but by the end the boos were because he was a genuinely great delusional heel. He might not be main event material, but I'd say his 'rightful spot' is somewhere above 'guy who only appears on Raw when the boss walks out in the middle of his match and cancels it so something important can happen.' I agree with that last sentence only because I believe the lower card in general should be booked better and not treated like total losers, but at the same time I don't see Bo as someone who should've been given the red carpet treatment upon getting called up. He was never going to be a guy who debuted as a world beater who keeps winning and winning until he runs into someone like Roman or Cena. Hell, I'd say losing his undefeated streak to R-Truth was the right call even though I generally dislike R-Truth being shoehorned into things.
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Post by Juice on Dec 19, 2015 22:08:48 GMT -5
Bo is lucky to be enhancement talent with that gimmick
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Post by percymania on Dec 20, 2015 15:00:49 GMT -5
...and it was a great match!
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Post by dreamer75 on Dec 20, 2015 17:24:22 GMT -5
I still wish he went 21-Bo and Brock show and "conquer" that streak with a beating as bad as he gave for what he said about his loss to Taker
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