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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 20:57:33 GMT -5
You know, it's ridiculous that he got a win from Brock. If it was in UFC, Triple H would have gotten knocked out and carried out of the building. Well yeah, but if it was in UFC, they wouldn't be using Pedigrees and F-5s.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jan 3, 2016 21:25:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if he'd never rebounded from that loss to Warrior.
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Post by chrom on Jan 3, 2016 21:26:46 GMT -5
Too many to count...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 21:39:43 GMT -5
So basically people don't think Trips should have won any feud, ever. Except maybe the one with Foley.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 21:42:58 GMT -5
You know, it's ridiculous that he got a win from Brock. If it was in UFC, Triple H would have gotten knocked out and carried out of the building. Well yeah, but if it was in UFC, they wouldn't be using Pedigrees and F-5s. If it was UFC, everyone on the damn roster would've been carried out. Not really a valid complaint unless you never want Brock to lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 22:02:53 GMT -5
Well yeah, but if it was in UFC, they wouldn't be using Pedigrees and F-5s. If it was UFC, everyone on the damn roster would've been carried out. Not really a valid complaint unless you never want Brock to lose. IMO, Brock should almost never lose. I can someone like a Daniel Bryan stealing a win. But Triple H doesn't have anything to make us believe Kayfabe wise that he can beat Brock. He's not a technician and I find it hard to believe that he can brawl evenly with him
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Post by Instant Classic on Jan 3, 2016 22:11:27 GMT -5
Sting is the biggest one followed by Booker.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 3, 2016 22:11:56 GMT -5
Regarding a few posts that listed RVD or Scott Steiner, do you honestly think that RVD was ready to hold the world title at that point? It would have made more sense if there was a DQ win or if the match was non-title. I mean the feud went to RVD and Flair right after that. Also, with Steiner, I think it was a little too soon in his run for him to go up against Triple H. Plus, wasn't he injured at the time? I also think Steiner suffered from ring rust when he had his match against Trips at Royal Rumble that year.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 3, 2016 22:13:13 GMT -5
#1 is Booker T and nothing even comes close.
The racial aspect is what did it. HHH could have lost the belt at Mania and won it back at the very next PPV, it would have made NO difference to the grand scheme of things. That way, Booker showed that yes, people like him DO deserve to be champion.
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Post by moondoggie on Jan 3, 2016 22:15:26 GMT -5
Classic example: after the screw job when Owen came back all his momentum was halted by being beaten by HHH and DX at every turn Oh god I hated that. Triple H is a shit for that feud. This was when i detested and despised Triple H and DX because of this feud.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 22:29:19 GMT -5
If it was UFC, everyone on the damn roster would've been carried out. Not really a valid complaint unless you never want Brock to lose. IMO, Brock should almost never lose. I can someone like a Daniel Bryan stealing a win. But Triple H doesn't have anything to make us believe Kayfabe wise that he can beat Brock. He's not a technician and I find it hard to believe that he can brawl evenly with him It's cool not wanting him to lose much. I just don't think how his opponent would do against him in a cage is a good reason to decide who should beat him. Kayfabe wise, I don't really have an issue with a 13 time world champion, whose entire gimmick was being a smart sneaky bastard who would chew off his own arm if it meant he could win a match beating Brock. To answer the thread, Booker T and CM Punk should both have beaten Triple H, maybe Goldberg? But I think looking back they made the right choice.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 3, 2016 22:31:38 GMT -5
This thread begins and ends with Booker T.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 3, 2016 22:43:29 GMT -5
#1 is Booker T and nothing even comes close. The racial aspect is what did it. HHH could have lost at the belt at Mania and won it back at the very next PPV, it would have made NO difference to the grand scheme of things. That way, Booker showed that yes, people like him DO deserve to be champion. I've made arguments in the past that HHH should have won that feud because Booker T was just not buyable as leader of the flagship, but yes, as the storyline played out, and even with all the clumsy backtracking from the god-awful, moronic racial business, Booker T should have won that match as to cleanse the palate from such a rotten attempt at controversy. You can always somewhat argue Hunter's more infamous victories. Goldberg never really 100% committed to the company and would be gone soon after anyways. RVD did not quite gel with what they expect of a champion outside the ring, a la the public face of the corporate space and furthermore, when he got the title, such a decision ended up justified in hindsight. Punk and Hunter were never meant to face-off at that juncture, and, with all the crow face-Hunter had to eat, him immediately losing and vindicating Punk's attack on him as being a spineless, worthless corporate politician would not be best for business. The Lesnar one, though, sticks in my craw. Whilst, yes, it is fiction, the actual breakdown of their matches was baffling. Brock legitimately moves like a predator. Hunter's offense puts the 'pro' into pro-wrestler. Lesnar having to sell such offense just lacked believability wholesale. Orton in 2004 is another baffling one. It had the bones of a legit hot angle. Orton'd gotten a point where his icebox heel persona was drawing face pops. The justification for Hunter immediately winning the title, according to Fin Martin, was that they wanted a heel champion for the interactive PPV, Taboo Tuesday, that was to follow as to promote eagerness for folk to get involved...and that just stinks of bullshit. Orton should have never even gotten the title at that stage, let alone lose it. Batista did benefit tremendously, but one can only wonder what kinda money was left on the table by sabotaging the slowburn Orton turn.
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Post by bob on Jan 3, 2016 22:45:52 GMT -5
CM Punk, Booker T, Brock Lesnar, Sting, Jericho each and every time, Rob Van Dam
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 3, 2016 22:48:08 GMT -5
#1 is Goldberg, a guy who was built as one of the biggest stars EVER by steamrolling through everybody and looking unbeatable. the crowd wanted it, it made sense, it made Goldberg legit... so he loses to an injured HHH
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 3, 2016 22:50:04 GMT -5
Anything from 2009-onward. He and Michaels killed JeriShow's awesome tag run, then proceeded to do nothing for the tag belts. Then they beat the crap out of Legacy for what felt like an eternity. Then he cooled off Sheamus. Then he and and Michaels beat the Straight Edge Society a couple of times. Then he beat CM Punk when he was white hot as a babyface. Then he beat Brock Lesnar. Then he beat freaking Sting in his huge WrestleMania debut. The only match he's won since 2009 that he should have was the ladder match against Kevin Nash, which is a match that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 3, 2016 22:50:48 GMT -5
CM Punk, Booker T, Brock Lesnar, Sting, Jericho each and every time, Rob Van Dam Oh god, Jericho. Was there ever an explanation for that "We'll give you the title for 3 minutes, but then you have to give it back" bullshit? I really wish they tried that with someone like Punk or Lesnar just to see how they would've reacted.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 3, 2016 22:51:41 GMT -5
CM Punk, Booker T, Brock Lesnar, Sting, Jericho each and every time, Rob Van Dam Oh god, Jericho. Was there ever an explanation for that "We'll give you the title for 3 minutes, but then you have to give it back" bullshit? I really wish they tried that with someone like Punk or Lesnar just to see how they would've reacted. Lesnar would have given zero damns unless he thought it'd hurt his bank account.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 22:57:11 GMT -5
#1. Is definitely CM Punk. Punk was the hottest thing in the company in years, and he was blatantly cooled off on purpose.
He could have been a MUCH bigger star if they'd rolled with his momentum faster.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 3, 2016 22:59:06 GMT -5
I say the Booker T one is the worst not only because of the racial aspect, but also because the excuse for it was essentially Goldberg.
Who they also had Triple H unnecessarily beat. Even the excuse for it got negated.
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