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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 10, 2016 10:46:08 GMT -5
I voted for the not nearly bizarre enough love triangle.
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Post by Stu on Jan 10, 2016 10:58:46 GMT -5
Yep, the spirit of light-heartedness and fun is gone. Instead, they just bitch about booking like the common "IWC smark". The same can be said about WWE Current. The TNA section is the closest thing we've got to the original Wrestlecrap Forums. I look at (W)rest as more of a place for historical discussion (which I love).
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 10, 2016 10:58:47 GMT -5
THE AUTHORITY! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BOTH OF THEM! DO YOU HEAR ME?
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 10, 2016 12:33:56 GMT -5
Shera shuffle is a worldwide phenomenon dude
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 10, 2016 12:47:21 GMT -5
Come on, really guys? Mickie eing bumped onto the tracks (which wasn't supposed to be a murder, just pretty much pushing someone off a stage) was one week, THe Authority and the Lana triangle shat up our TV for most of the year. THE AUTHORITY! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BOTH OF THEM! DO YOU HEAR ME? going off RD's old qualifications for gooker inductions "if it's an ongoing angle it can't/shouldn't be considered until it is finished." so the authority angle shouldn't even be a nomination (again they did the same last year with a nomination which I forget.) for this years gooker. it's poor choices for the gooker this year in my opinion.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 10, 2016 13:18:49 GMT -5
Come on, really guys? Mickie eing bumped onto the tracks (which wasn't supposed to be a murder, just pretty much pushing someone off a stage) was one week, THe Authority and the Lana triangle shat up our TV for most of the year. THE AUTHORITY! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BOTH OF THEM! DO YOU HEAR ME? going off RD's old qualifications for gooker inductions "if it's an ongoing angle it can't/shouldn't be considered until it is finished." so the authority angle shouldn't even be a nomination (again they did the same last year with a nomination which I forget.) for this years gooker. it's poor choices for the gooker this year in my opinion. I think it's probably passed that rule by going on for 2 and a half years without any indication it will ever stop, despite being consistently shit. It represents everything wrong with their boneheaded booking. Hell, they had to stop using the "best for business" catchphrase when ratings tanked and people asked for refunds 3 PPVs in a row.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 10, 2016 13:30:00 GMT -5
going off RD's old qualifications for gooker inductions "if it's an ongoing angle it can't/shouldn't be considered until it is finished." so the authority angle shouldn't even be a nomination (again they did the same last year with a nomination which I forget.) for this years gooker. it's poor choices for the gooker this year in my opinion. I think it's probably passed that rule by going on for 2 and a half years without any indication it will ever stop, despite being consistently shit. It represents everything wrong with their boneheaded booking. Hell, they had to stop using the "best for business" catchphrase when ratings tanked and people asked for refunds 3 PPVs in a row. don't get me wrong, I agree it's more than outstayed it's welcome as an angle (as has the evil invading take over force/heel in charge of everything with no comeuppance.) but it shouldn't be nominated yet for the gooker as it's still on going (and probably will for another two years or so.)
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 10, 2016 13:32:47 GMT -5
If people voted the way they do now then in 1990 the Gobbledy Gooker wouldn't have even been Gooker of the Year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 14:16:17 GMT -5
Throw Mickie from the Train. Some of the stuff here is probably worse, but killing off someone in storyline (to boot, it was a regular performer, not just a one-note character like Al Wilson) is ridiculous. I love Lucha Underground, but they should have been on here too for killing Bael in a similar fashion (well, that one involved someone eating his face rather than a train). I STILL haven't checked out Lucha Underground, but it sounds like their show has a cinematic tone that would allow for something like that. Impact feels very set in the "real world", it didn't fit the tone of their show whatsoever. Hell, we saw that happen via SECURITY CAM FOOTAGE.
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Post by ERON on Jan 10, 2016 15:45:04 GMT -5
"All Things TNA" should have been an option.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 10, 2016 15:49:56 GMT -5
Let's take a look at the choices:
*"All The Worst Of Roman Reigns" (WWE)--Not sure about this. I mean a guy cutting a few bad promos isn't really Gooker worthy, but if we're also talking the Rumble match then that might qualify. *The Divas Revolution (WWE)--It had to be on here but it's too big picture to really win anything. *The Rosebush (WWE)--Featured only a couple of times. Not any good but not memorable. *Throw Mickie From The Train (TNA)--This one was hilariously bad. Probably the cheesiest angle of the year. *The Authority (WWE)--Again, too broad. What Authority related stuff was bad enough to be the Gooker? *Jon Stewart: Heel (WWE)--This was stupid and would warrant an article but he wasn't around enough to make it a lasting thing. *The Shera Shuffle (TNA)--This is just harmless. Doesn't belong. *"All Things Kane" (WWE)--The Demon/Authority Kane stuff was certainly qualify. *Sting's WrestleMania (WWE)--I'm surprised this is on here. I think it's more hindsight than anything but it won't win. *Lana/Rusev/Lana/Summer Rae Love Square (WWE)--This might actually win.
I would vote for the Rusev/Lane thing. Yes, the Mickie/Storm thing was awful and probably worse but at least it was train wreck fun. Besides, Magnus and Storm were basically out of TNA by that point so it didn't really hurt anyone (Storm returned however). The Lana/Rusev thing was terrible and showed what a one note performer Lana is and how she can't be a face, that Ziggler was awful in the role of the white knight, and oddly the one who got increased screen time and importance was Summer. It killed the heat of everyone involved that matters, and to boot it never even really had a blow off.
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Post by Shark on Jan 10, 2016 16:28:31 GMT -5
Let's take a look at the choices: *"All The Worst Of Roman Reigns" (WWE)--Not sure about this. I mean a guy cutting a few bad promos isn't really Gooker worthy, but if we're also talking the Rumble match then that might qualify. *The Divas Revolution (WWE)--It had to be on here but it's too big picture to really win anything. *The Rosebush (WWE)--Featured only a couple of times. Not any good but not memorable. *Throw Mickie From The Train (TNA)--This one was hilariously bad. Probably the cheesiest angle of the year. *The Authority (WWE)--Again, too broad. What Authority related stuff was bad enough to be the Gooker? *Jon Stewart: Heel (WWE)--This was stupid and would warrant an article but he wasn't around enough to make it a lasting thing. *The Shera Shuffle (TNA)--This is just harmless. Doesn't belong. *"All Things Kane" (WWE)--The Demon/Authority Kane stuff was certainly qualify. *Sting's WrestleMania (WWE)--I'm surprised this is on here. I think it's more hindsight than anything but it won't win. *Lana/Rusev/Lana/Summer Rae Love Square (WWE)--This might actually win. I would vote for the Rusev/Lane thing. Yes, the Mickie/Storm thing was awful and probably worse but at least it was train wreck fun. Besides, Magnus and Storm were basically out of TNA by that point so it didn't really hurt anyone (Storm returned however). The Lana/Rusev thing was terrible and showed what a one note performer Lana is and how she can't be a face, that Ziggler was awful in the role of the white knight, and oddly the one who got increased screen time and importance was Summer. It killed the heat of everyone involved that matters, and to boot it never even really had a blow off. They make their choices way too broad now. Some of these would make some sense if they actually picked something specific. Instead of Reign's entire year, and he's getting good reactions now and fans turned around on him for the most part the last few months. Had this been just the Royal Rumble match, that's a fine nominee. The entire Divas Revolution? Too broad. Why not the weird Paige vs Charlotte feud or even more narrow, the Reid Flair segment. The Authority by and large makes no real sense as a nominee. The Rosebush lasted 3 weeks why is that on there? Even the Lana/Rusev/Summer/Ziggler feud doesn't totally belong there. Rusev and Summer were a great pair and they were fun to watch. The Ziggler/Lana pairing should have been nominated. They had zero chemistry, looked like they didn't want to do it, and it exposed Lana as a one trick pony.
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 10, 2016 16:29:05 GMT -5
I would have put up also Hernandez Edits TNA Eric Young's pursuit for Option Leg Tigre Uno as the TNA Sin Cara Super Kurt Angle
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Post by fw91 on Jan 10, 2016 16:33:05 GMT -5
Is TNA even relevant enough to win the gooker? Anyway I voted Regins just because its the only option to include the rumble.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2016 20:56:04 GMT -5
Yeah, every year we point it out, but ever since Eddiesploitation won it too often it falls into "this angle made me angry" territory and not what the Gooker (and, by extension, Wrestlecrap) was mostly intended for originally.
That's not to say I wouldn't support inducting a bad, offensive, or fan-angering storyline; back in the original WC book, I remember it saying that "sometimes, Wrestlecrap can ruin careers", so it's not always 100% fun and harmless. But by giving such broad options (agreed with the above on that) and by not really giving a solid set of guidelines for what should constitute a potential Gooker nominee, the voting each year seems to turn into "company harming angle" vs. "truly offensive angle" vs. "funny but incredibly stupid" angle.
Maybe it should start getting broken up into categories that reflect that: an award for a truly offensive or disastrous angle (e.g. the 2015 Rumble, exploiting Eddie back in the day), an angle that makes the company or the performers involved really look bad (e.g. the "walkout on Triple H" angle from 2011, the way Sting was booked at WM 31), and then just gimmicks or stories that are funny due to how intensely stupid they are (the Rusev-Lana-Dolph-Summer thing, the Shera Shuffle, etc.).
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 13, 2016 5:50:04 GMT -5
The true spirit of Wrestlecrap keeps disappearing every year to the point it is no longer Wrestlecrap but Smark Anger. That's why I stopped voting for the Gooker because it is not what outrageously dumb angle, character, or match happened that year. It's WWE did something I hate and let me bitch about it without any hints of humor.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 13, 2016 9:34:45 GMT -5
I do think part of that is that there's been so many entries into the site dealing with old school wrestling, where we all have the benefit of hindsight and can look back and laugh at the dumber characters and angles that have popped up over the years (i.e. "Oh my God, you guys remember just HOW DUMB the Dungeon of Doom was?" or "I was a kid when the Gooker debuted, this takes me back"). Once those options are exhausted, we all start focusing on current stuff where we can't let nostalgia color our perception of things.
Doesn't make your point less pertinent, though; there's room for "smark rage" when talking Wrestlecrap, but it's pretty clearly gone overboard.
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Post by Giul T. on Jan 13, 2016 9:44:48 GMT -5
Voted Mickie. Right now it's tied between divas and the love dodecahedron at 22%
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Post by the2ndevil on Jan 13, 2016 13:50:03 GMT -5
R.I.P. to the true spirit of Wrestlecrap, for this list shows it is beyond dead at this point.
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Post by Phil Parent on Jan 13, 2016 13:55:58 GMT -5
Oh, that's how I landed here in the first place, this board used to be the official WrestleCrap board....
I remember that. Happy I stayed here, this is my online home.
I voted for the love dodecagon. It greatly harmed Rusev, Ziggler; did nothing for Summer and KILLED Lana deader than the fish Rusev tossed at her.
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