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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 19, 2016 6:10:46 GMT -5
Predictions:
NE 31 Denver: HGH (Or 21. Whatever.)
If they play like they're capable of playing, Carolina will beat Arizona by 10. But since they're Carolina and I will never live to see them win a Super Bowl, Arizona will win by 7.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 19, 2016 11:19:27 GMT -5
Well, he's not wrong. He does push off a lot. Every game I watch him in he has gotten some huge gains because of it. Granted, he is most definitely not the only player that does so and because he gets the superstar treatment he gets away with it more often than other do as well. Again, he's not the only one that gets away with it a lot either. To be honest, I'm not even mad at him for it. If I had that body and was allowed to get away with it more often than not, I'd be doing it all of the time as well. He could learn to be more subtle about it (they never call it if you simply elbow someone out of your way, for instance).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 11:58:56 GMT -5
Gronkowski pushing off isn't really a problem if Denver liberally applies the pass rush and Brady eats dirt as a result.
Which of course, Denver won't do, because giving Tom ten seconds to throw every down is totally the best way to defeat one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 19, 2016 16:06:50 GMT -5
Brady isn't good in Denver but we're talking way too much smack. This is shaping up to be an epic, just don't know if an epic close one or an epic asswhipping.
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Post by BRV on Jan 19, 2016 17:08:35 GMT -5
Brady isn't good in Denver but we're talking way too much smack. This is shaping up to be an epic, just don't know if an epic close one or an epic asswhipping. That's the biggest factor that's keeping me honest about next Sunday. If the Patriots and Broncos were playing at Gillette Stadium or a neutral site, I'd probably already be printing my Patriots AFC Champions gear and purchasing tickets to Santa Clara for Super Bowl 50. But a funny thing happens when the greatest quarterback ever plays in Mile High. It humanizes him. In eight games in Denver, Tom Brady has a 2-6 record and has a stat line of 178-for-302 (58.9 percent, 4.6 points lower than his career average for completion percentage) with 15 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Although he hasn't thrown an interception in Denver since January 2006, but you get my drift. Well, he's not wrong. He does push off a lot. Every game I watch him in he has gotten some huge gains because of it. Granted, he is most definitely not the only player that does so and because he gets the superstar treatment he gets away with it more often than other do as well. Again, he's not the only one that gets away with it a lot either. To be honest, I'm not even mad at him for it. If I had that body and was allowed to get away with it more often than not, I'd be doing it all of the time as well. He could learn to be more subtle about it (they never call it if you simply elbow someone out of your way, for instance). I don't think he necessarily pushes off any more than any other wide receiver or tight end in the league, but like I said about him and Mike Evans, the reason the officials are so ready to throw the flag for what appears to be offensive pass interference is because they are simply so much bigger and stronger than whoever is defending them that it appears they're pushing off when they're actually just jockeying for position. It just looks bad because these puny safeties or cornerbacks are matching up against goliaths and are being completely overpowered. If all Gronkowski did was elbow someone out of his way, he'd get called for it because the referees are looking for it and because he would send the defender simply by elbowing someone out of his way. Of Gronkowski's five offensive pass interference penalties this season, the only one that felt legitimate came against the Dolphins in week eight, when he just leveled a Miami defender to clear a path for Julian Edelman to catch a touchdown. The other four - especially the one in the fourth quarter against Denver in week 12 - ranged from weak calls to outright bulls**t. Also, there's this: www.businessinsider.com/defenders-aim-for-rob-gronkowski-knees-2016-1Chris Harris Jr. is a gutless coward and I hope Gronkowski runs his ass over en route to a touchdown Sunday afternoon.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 19, 2016 18:17:24 GMT -5
Brady isn't good in Denver but we're talking way too much smack. This is shaping up to be an epic, just don't know if an epic close one or an epic asswhipping. That's the biggest factor that's keeping me honest about next Sunday. If the Patriots and Broncos were playing at Gillette Stadium or a neutral site, I'd probably already be printing my Patriots AFC Champions gear and purchasing tickets to Santa Clara for Super Bowl 50. But a funny thing happens when the greatest quarterback ever plays in Mile High. It humanizes him. In eight games in Denver, Tom Brady has a 2-6 record and has a stat line of 178-for-302 (58.9 percent, 4.6 points lower than his career average for completion percentage) with 15 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Although he hasn't thrown an interception in Denver since January 2006, but you get my drift. Well, he's not wrong. He does push off a lot. Every game I watch him in he has gotten some huge gains because of it. Granted, he is most definitely not the only player that does so and because he gets the superstar treatment he gets away with it more often than other do as well. Again, he's not the only one that gets away with it a lot either. To be honest, I'm not even mad at him for it. If I had that body and was allowed to get away with it more often than not, I'd be doing it all of the time as well. He could learn to be more subtle about it (they never call it if you simply elbow someone out of your way, for instance). I don't think he necessarily pushes off any more than any other wide receiver or tight end in the league, but like I said about him and Mike Evans, the reason the officials are so ready to throw the flag for what appears to be offensive pass interference is because they are simply so much bigger and stronger than whoever is defending them that it appears they're pushing off when they're actually just jockeying for position. It just looks bad because these puny safeties or cornerbacks are matching up against goliaths and are being completely overpowered. If all Gronkowski did was elbow someone out of his way, he'd get called for it because the referees are looking for it and because he would send the defender simply by elbowing someone out of his way. Of Gronkowski's five offensive pass interference penalties this season, the only one that felt legitimate came against the Dolphins in week eight, when he just leveled a Miami defender to clear a path for Julian Edelman to catch a touchdown. The other four - especially the one in the fourth quarter against Denver in week 12 - ranged from weak calls to outright bulls**t. Also, there's this: www.businessinsider.com/defenders-aim-for-rob-gronkowski-knees-2016-1Chris Harris Jr. is a gutless coward and I hope Gronkowski runs his ass over en route to a touchdown Sunday afternoon. A) First, I am purely talking about the technical violation of the rule whether or not it is egregious. Second, I clearly stated that others also push off a lot (Jimmy Graham is much worse about it). Again, I'm not mad about it since getting away with it as it is just part of the game and many teams have players that get away with it (even my Colts). That's right, a Colts fan points out that a Pats player gets away with something and makes it clear that I don't care about it. B) I don't see why you feel the need to label Harris as a coward. He's a DB being asked to tackle a really big man. Of course you go for the legs. You think Jerome Bettis didn't get hit in the legs by guys too small to stand him up? The only times he won't face that is if a team actually has an LB or SS that can adequately cover him (a rare thing, I know), so that's hardly a thing exclusive to Harris.
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Post by BRV on Jan 19, 2016 18:42:33 GMT -5
B) I don't see why you feel the need to label Harris as a coward. He's a DB being asked to tackle a really big man. Of course you go for the legs. You think Jerome Bettis didn't get hit in the legs by guys too small to stand him up? The only times he won't face that is if a team actually has an LB or SS that can adequately cover him (a rare thing, I know), so that's hardly a thing exclusive to Harris. It's cowardly because of five words: "hit him in his knees". If Harris gave the same quote without those five words, I'd have no exception to it. Of course you need to try to go after Gronkowski's legs because if you try to body him up, he's going to run through you like a freight train. But bringing a player's knees into it is at best unseemly, especially when discussing Gronkowski who is presently dealing with a knee injury caused by one of Harris' teammates back in November and suffered a torn ACL because another one of Harris' teammates dove at his knee in 2013. Harris knows exactly what he's doing. He's not-so-subtly telling Gronkowski to keep an eye out for his knees in the hope that it'll get in Gronkowski's head and maybe he'll alligator-arm a ball over the middle or maybe he won't lay out for a pass over the seam. It's cowardly and gutless and I'm not changing my stance on it.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 19, 2016 19:14:32 GMT -5
B) I don't see why you feel the need to label Harris as a coward. He's a DB being asked to tackle a really big man. Of course you go for the legs. You think Jerome Bettis didn't get hit in the legs by guys too small to stand him up? The only times he won't face that is if a team actually has an LB or SS that can adequately cover him (a rare thing, I know), so that's hardly a thing exclusive to Harris. It's cowardly because of five words: "hit him in his knees". If Harris gave the same quote without those five words, I'd have no exception to it. Of course you need to try to go after Gronkowski's legs because if you try to body him up, he's going to run through you like a freight train. But bringing a player's knees into it is at best unseemly, especially when discussing Gronkowski who is presently dealing with a knee injury caused by one of Harris' teammates back in November and suffered a torn ACL because another one of Harris' teammates dove at his knee in 2013. Harris knows exactly what he's doing. He's not-so-subtly telling Gronkowski to keep an eye out for his knees in the hope that it'll get in Gronkowski's head and maybe he'll alligator-arm a ball over the middle or maybe he won't lay out for a pass over the seam. It's cowardly and gutless and I'm not changing my stance on it. That's basic football talk. You're looking too far into it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 19:26:58 GMT -5
Patriots vs. Cardinals in the Super Bowl.
Peyton and the playoffs often end poorly and Carolina can't close games properly. I'd like to see Denver vs. Carolina, but that ain't gonna happen.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 19, 2016 19:36:04 GMT -5
B) I don't see why you feel the need to label Harris as a coward. He's a DB being asked to tackle a really big man. Of course you go for the legs. You think Jerome Bettis didn't get hit in the legs by guys too small to stand him up? The only times he won't face that is if a team actually has an LB or SS that can adequately cover him (a rare thing, I know), so that's hardly a thing exclusive to Harris. It's cowardly because of five words: "hit him in his knees". If Harris gave the same quote without those five words, I'd have no exception to it. Of course you need to try to go after Gronkowski's legs because if you try to body him up, he's going to run through you like a freight train. But bringing a player's knees into it is at best unseemly, especially when discussing Gronkowski who is presently dealing with a knee injury caused by one of Harris' teammates back in November and suffered a torn ACL because another one of Harris' teammates dove at his knee in 2013. Harris knows exactly what he's doing. He's not-so-subtly telling Gronkowski to keep an eye out for his knees in the hope that it'll get in Gronkowski's head and maybe he'll alligator-arm a ball over the middle or maybe he won't lay out for a pass over the seam. It's cowardly and gutless and I'm not changing my stance on it. If it gets in Gronk's head and makes him get alligator arms on a few passes then it was effective mind games and says more about Gronk than Harris. It's not like you can't get into his head. Sergio Brown got in his head and it affected him for much of one of those games against the Colts. Even when he focused enough to make a play he still lost his shit. Fortunately for Gronk, the Patriots scored on that play. Otherwise, that penalty could have been a drive killer in a one score game. That was a dumb, dumb move on his part because he can't handle trash talk. Again, had that not been a scoring play Gronk could have really screwed over his team because he's a meathead. What was really irritating to me is that Patriot fans thought that stupid act was funny, which is not at all something that fans of a "classy" organization, which they portray the Patriots as, should celebrate. It might have been character building had that act really screwed over the team.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 19:38:39 GMT -5
Dr. T is an alien I wouldn't argue with BRV. His Patriots are blameless, holy creatures, and it's only an injustice to him when they don't get their way.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 19, 2016 19:53:06 GMT -5
Dr. T is an alien I wouldn't argue with BRV. His Patriots are blameless, holy creatures, and it's only an injustice to him when they don't get their way. It's alright. I think he's fine.
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Post by BRV on Jan 19, 2016 20:10:25 GMT -5
If it gets in Gronk's head and makes him get alligator arms on a few passes then it was effective mind games and says more about Gronk than Harris. It's not like you can't get into his head. Sergio Brown got in his head and it affected him for much of one of those games against the Colts. Even when he focused enough to make a play he still lost his shit. Fortunately for Gronk, the Patriots scored on that play. Otherwise, that penalty could have been a drive killer in a one score game. That was a dumb, dumb move on his part because he can't handle trash talk. Again, had that not been a scoring play Gronk could have really screwed over his team because he's a meathead. What was really irritating to me is that Patriot fans thought that stupid act was funny, which is not at all something that fans of a "classy" organization, which they portray the Patriots as, should celebrate. It might have been character building had that act really screwed over the team. Rob Gronkowski is no different than Odell Beckham or any other elite high-end offensive talent. Of course you can get in his head. I had no objection with the way Sergio Brown did it, because it was standard trash-talk and giving a guy the business after a play was over. I mean, from a personal standpoint I have an objection with Sergio Brown jawing with Rob Gronkowski because Gronkowski is one of the best offensive players in the league and Sergio Brown is water pooled under a dumpster. It would be like if Tavon Wilson tries getting in Emmanuel Sanders' head on Sunday by s***-talking him every time Sanders makes a catch. And for all the talk of Brown playing effective mind games, Gronkowski still finished that game with five catches for 71 yards and a touchdown. I also have no objection with the way Gronkowski handled it, by "tossing him out of the club" or however he phrased it. He finished his block and gave Brown the business on a play after the game was decided. That's the difference between a guy like Gronkowski and a guy like Beckham. If Gronkowski is going to vent his frustration, he's going to do it on a touchdown that all but seals a game and won't adversely affect his team. When Beckham vented his frustration, it was a helmet-to-helmet shot on Josh Norman in the third quarter of a game the Giants had a chance of winning. For as much of a dopey meathead as he is off the field, Gronkowski is a pretty heady player when he's between the lines. What I still object to is a player essentially saying that he's going to target a very sensitive part of the body that is very susceptible to injury. Again, if all Chris Harris says is "You gotta hit him low, man ... That's the best chance you have of hitting him ... You gotta take his legs out or hold on and wait for everybody, wait for the gang to come on and gang tackle him," I have no issue with it. But when you bring up another players' knees and injuries that could derail a player's career, especially when you have a cheap shot artist like T.J. Ward in your secondary, I'm going to be bothered by it. Chris Harris right now has a shoulder injury. If Gronkowski's response were "You gotta hit him in his shoulder," then I'd be bothered by that, too. Dr. T is an alien I wouldn't argue with BRV. His Patriots are blameless, holy creatures, and it's only an injustice to him when they don't get their way. By all means, please feel free to peruse my endless posts about Julian Edelman's off-field transgression, Rob Gronkowski's antics and behavior outside of the stadium, Brandon Meriweather's myriad cheapshots, Robert Kraft's thriftiness, Bill Belichick's denseness on draft day or in free agency, or Aqib Talib's attitude problems. I may be the loudest guy in the room but I'm no different than any fan. I defend and support my players when I feel they're worth defending or supporting and I criticize them when I feel they're worthy of criticism. Except Tom Brady. The man really is a blameless, holy creature and it is only an injustice when he doesn't get his way.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jan 19, 2016 20:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 19, 2016 20:45:28 GMT -5
The NFL has announced Bill Vinovich as the referee for the NFC Championship Game and Ed Hochuli as the referee for the AFC Championship Game. This means they were considered two of the top refs in the regular season by the NFL grading system.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 19, 2016 20:56:02 GMT -5
I would like to say the following to Denver Broncos players.......STFU with your trash talking and complaints towards the New England Patriots. You don't see the other three teams doing that because all three of them actually have something called common sense in that you don't need to give your opponents bulletin board material.
And before defenders say if you need bulletin board material, you don't belong in this game. Bottom line is you don't need to give them more incentive than they already have (which is a lot as it is) to kick your ass.
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Post by BRV on Jan 19, 2016 21:02:00 GMT -5
The NFL has announced Bill Vinovich as the referee for the NFC Championship Game and Ed Hochuli as the referee for the AFC Championship Game. This means they were considered two of the top refs in the regular season by the NFL grading system. I really like Bill Vinovich and wish he was the referee for the AFC Championship Game. He's the kind of official who'll keep the flag in his pocket and let the players play the game and he's also very quick on his feet, as he was able to properly wade through the Patriots' ineligible receiver plays against Baltimore during the Divisional Playoff Game last January. I don't really have much of an objection with the way Ed Hochuli officiates games, I just can't stand how verbose he is and how desperately he wants to be the star of the show.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 19, 2016 21:10:39 GMT -5
Hoculi is sort of the Anti-Joe West. They both love to make the games about themselves, except Hoculi is usually very competent at his job.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 21:15:18 GMT -5
The NFL has announced Bill Vinovich as the referee for the NFC Championship Game and Ed Hochuli as the referee for the AFC Championship Game. This means they were considered two of the top refs in the regular season by the NFL grading system. Does that mean we're getting Jerome Boger at the Super Bowl again? HOLDING, OFFENSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE. TEN YARD PENALTY, REPEAT, SSSSSSSSSECOND DOWN.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 19, 2016 21:43:34 GMT -5
Antonio Smith calls Tom Brady a crybaby. . . .
"Every time he gets sacked, he looks at the ref like, 'You see him sack me? Was that supposed to happen? He did it a little hard. Please throw a 15-yard penalty on him. Get him fined"
Why would you poke the bear
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