Did Chyna fit anywhere on the WWF roster in 2001?

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Watching some old Chyna 2001 stuff and seeing her dominate the Women's Division, was this really the best spot to keep her? There were no real challengers and because she was a former Intercontinental Champion, it was tough for her to step down to the Women's Title because she was so above it.

But, did she fit the Intercontinental title scene either? In 2001 it would've been her versus Benoit, Jericho, Regal, Kane and HHH were the champions before she left. Would it make sense to put her there?

WWF European Title scene? Then she would go up against the likes of Test. Did that fit her?

WWF Tag Team Champion? She had no allies on the roster at the time, so that wouldn't work, since she would go up against Edge and Christian, The Dudleyz and The Hardyz.

Then there is the InVasion. I highly doubt she battles Torrie or Stacy, so do we see her against the likes of Billy Kidman and Chavo Guerrerro? Does she win WCW gold, because that was something she never held in her career? If Kanyon could be handed the US Title, I', sure Chyna could take it off of him easily. And as crazy at this sounds, if she was still around in July of that year, I can see Buff Bagwell getting putting through the Chyna exam like Jericho did the first few months. Imagine if it was Buff Bagwell vs. Chyna for the United States title on Raw instead of Buff vs. Booker?

They teased in 1999 of making her the WWF Champion, but that didn't happen. Would they give her the WCW Championship? And let's be honest, that belt was worthless by the time it made it's way to the WWF anyways, so if she won it, it could even get it credibility.

I guess looking back it totally made sense that she left because she didn't fit anywhere compared to 1998 and 1999.

Did she fit anywhere to you during 2001?

[魔界5号]

Unemployment line because far superior girls like Trish and Lita were getting really good really fast, Victoria came in not long after, and Chyna's whole gimmick of buff chick was old by that point anyway.

[Big Bad Kahuna]

She became stale, got that peacock gimmick (lolz), plus they started booking her awkwardly (hmm I wonder why...)

Everything went perfectly fine imo

[Curt Hawkins Fan]

Jan 31, 2016 16:32:22 GMT -5 魔界5号 said:

Unemployment line because far superior girls like Trish and Lita were getting really good really fast, Victoria came in not long after, and Chyna's whole gimmick of buff chick was old by that point anyway.

Tbh Trish and Lita weren't that good, they just weren't like Chyna where, as you said, her gimmick was "me big and strong".

[zappa]

Chyna like Sable, XPac, Godfather, NAO's, D'lo, Val Venis etc was very much a product of WWF 97-99 they felt out of place past 2000.

[Hit Girl]

Nope. She was useless by that point. The only possible place for her was the women's division and she considered that beneath her.

[Deleted]

Chyna should have gone to films(non-porn) at this point imo.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 31, 2016 21:21:48 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Nope. She was useless by that point. The only possible place for her was the women's division and she considered that beneath her.

The Women's division WAS beneath Chyna. The only way they could've gone with it was to give her a monster run with the belt where she crushes everyone only to lose to someone like Lita in the end.

[Malcolm]

Jan 31, 2016 16:32:22 GMT -5 魔界5号 said:

Unemployment line because far superior girls like Trish and Lita were getting really good really fast, Victoria came in not long after, and Chyna's whole gimmick of buff chick was old by that point anyway.

I honestly never saw what was so great about Trish. Ever.

[Hit Girl]

Jan 31, 2016 21:25:50 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jan 31, 2016 21:21:48 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Nope. She was useless by that point. The only possible place for her was the women's division and she considered that beneath her.

The Women's division WAS beneath Chyna. The only way they could've gone with it was to give her a monster run with the belt where she crushes everyone only to lose to someone like Lita in the end.

It really wasn't. It was simply the case that she was pushed way beyond her abilities and started believing her own hype. Even someone like Ivory was miles ahead of Chyna in terms of wrestling ability, and Chyna was utter shite on the mic too.

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Maybe if there was a WCW brand after all, that would be a fresh start and she could get away from HHH and Stephanie.

I'm sure a Shane McMahon WCW would book her pretty good.

[魔界5号]

Jan 31, 2016 21:29:45 GMT -5 Malcolm said:

Jan 31, 2016 16:32:22 GMT -5 魔界5号 said:

Unemployment line because far superior girls like Trish and Lita were getting really good really fast, Victoria came in not long after, and Chyna's whole gimmick of buff chick was old by that point anyway.

I honestly never saw what was so great about Trish. Ever.

Early on, she was talentless. No prior wrestling experience, just eye candy. But she worked hard to train and over time got very good, to the point where her and Lita were allowed to main event Raw in 2003. Her ring work was amazing by 2006 when she retired.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 31, 2016 21:32:30 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Jan 31, 2016 21:25:50 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

The Women's division WAS beneath Chyna. The only way they could've gone with it was to give her a monster run with the belt where she crushes everyone only to lose to someone like Lita in the end.

It really wasn't. It was simply the case that she was pushed way beyond her abilities and started believing her own hype. Even someone like Ivory was miles ahead of Chyna in terms of wrestling ability, and Chyna was utter shite on the mic too.

Chyna was the first female Intercontinental Champion and pushed as someone who could hang with men on any given day, while people like Trish and Ivory had to rely on help from male superstars like Val Venis to ever gain any type of physical advantage on her in a feud.

[Perfect Timing]

If she wasn't in the Hunner love traingle I feel she could of had a few more years left in her.

Teamed her up with Goldust in 2002.

Put her in the nWo

Have her manage a bunch of different people ( Billy and Chuck,RVD,Booker T)

[Hit Girl]

Feb 1, 2016 1:41:08 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jan 31, 2016 21:32:30 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

It really wasn't. It was simply the case that she was pushed way beyond her abilities and started believing her own hype. Even someone like Ivory was miles ahead of Chyna in terms of wrestling ability, and Chyna was utter shite on the mic too.

Chyna was the first female Intercontinental Champion and pushed as someone who could hang with men on any given day, while people like Trish and Ivory had to rely on help from male superstars like Val Venis to ever gain any type of physical advantage on her in a feud.

Which was terrible booking. There's no way in hell Chyna should have been anywhere near a men's title. By the time she began competing in the women's division, she had physically changed anyway. She was a long way past the monster bodyguard she had been in DX.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Feb 1, 2016 1:55:05 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Feb 1, 2016 1:41:08 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Chyna was the first female Intercontinental Champion and pushed as someone who could hang with men on any given day, while people like Trish and Ivory had to rely on help from male superstars like Val Venis to ever gain any type of physical advantage on her in a feud.

Which was terrible booking. There's no way in hell Chyna should have been anywhere near a men's title. By the time she began competing in the women's division, she had physically changed anyway. She was a long way past the monster bodyguard she had been in DX.

Chyna lost some of her muscle mass so she could be more of a conventional beauty, but she still outsized the other women by a large margin.

[Hit Girl]

Feb 1, 2016 1:56:20 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Feb 1, 2016 1:55:05 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Which was terrible booking. There's no way in hell Chyna should have been anywhere near a men's title. By the time she began competing in the women's division, she had physically changed anyway. She was a long way past the monster bodyguard she had been in DX.

Chyna lost some of her muscle mass so she could be more of a conventional beauty, but she still outsized the other women by a large margin.

Even if she did, people have got to get over this idea that in wrestling "muscles = the best"

[PKO]

The storyline was that her neck injury would prevent her from competing with the men, so the divas division was her future. Her PPV match with Lita was pretty good, and I liked the idea of all the divas having to step up to the challenge of Chyna. That could have taken up a good chunk of 2001; the other divas having to raise their game to compete with Chyna.

It also would have allowed her time off, which is the key. It's easy to forget now but at the time she was busy as hell with outside projects. Without the WWF publicity her career sank like many before her, but chances are if she was still in WWF she would have been missing quite a bit of time for those other projects.

As for the Invasion, I'd imagine her pairing up as the valet for another superstar. There was no competition with the WCW ladies, so she'd be done with the divas division for a while, so I can imagine them making a permanent pairing with Billy Gunn.

[sonofblaine]

She could have done a midcard status run around the IC. Not saying it would have been great. Of course she wouldn't be as good as the Benoits and Jerichos, but in wrestling, when has booking ever been done based on realistic odds. We'd have seen her go over on more talented guys the same asmen with her ammount of ability have been booked as such. Again, not saying it would be good at all. "Chyna's Run on the Male Roster" would be a Wretlecrap article title. Unfortunate as it is, her being a female would probably make fans less accepting of her than some similarly talented hoss getting a push.

And I have to reitterate, NOT in favor of this and glad it didn't happen.

[agent817]

Feb 1, 2016 6:58:49 GMT -5 sonofblaine said:

She could have done a midcard status run around the IC. Not saying it would have been great. Of course she wouldn't be as good as the Benoits and Jerichos, but in wrestling, when has booking ever been done based on realistic odds. We'd have seen her go over on more talented guys the same asmen with her ammount of ability have been booked as such. Again, not saying it would be good at all. "Chyna's Run on the Male Roster" would be a Wretlecrap article title. Unfortunate as it is, her being a female would probably make fans less accepting of her than some similarly talented hoss getting a push.

And I have to reitterate, NOT in favor of this and glad it didn't happen.

It seemed that when her muscle mass decreased and started to look more feminine, she was mainly in the women's division. She did not need to have another IC title reign. I still think it was ridiculous that she had one in 1999.