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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 21, 2016 17:39:43 GMT -5
Could've swore this guy was future endeavored awhile ago. To his credit, he certainly ACTS like a guy who doesn't give a f*** if he gets fired or not, which....I can vaguely respect.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 21, 2016 17:47:13 GMT -5
Say it to his plastic face: I realize that's not a knock off HHH figure, but it was the first Google image result, and mere seconds is really all I wanted to devote to this post.
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Post by FinalGwen on Feb 21, 2016 17:53:01 GMT -5
God, what a schmuck. Why does he still have a job again? I mean, he's not even replaceable, because that would entail him doing something that someone could take over in his absence. Rosa Mendes, for all her flaws, has been of more use to the company. Yes clearly the chick who botched standing still and got "Stupid Stupid'd" by KELLY F***ING KELLY of all people is more valuable than Alex Riley. Bruh. I get that people don't like him, but it's ridiculous and practically a meme now to claim that someone who clearly can't wrestle is more useful than someone who can. Clearly, Riley should apologize for not being a vaguely hot chick and not sleeping with a member of creative to keep his job. Smh. Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT?
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Post by SAJ Forth on Feb 21, 2016 18:01:03 GMT -5
Soon he'll be picked to run the place when Triple-H runs the main show.
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Post by Talent Name on Feb 21, 2016 18:04:20 GMT -5
Yes clearly the chick who botched standing still and got "Stupid Stupid'd" by KELLY F***ING KELLY of all people is more valuable than Alex Riley. Bruh. I get that people don't like him, but it's ridiculous and practically a meme now to claim that someone who clearly can't wrestle is more useful than someone who can. Clearly, Riley should apologize for not being a vaguely hot chick and not sleeping with a member of creative to keep his job. Smh. Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 21, 2016 18:08:55 GMT -5
Yes clearly the chick who botched standing still and got "Stupid Stupid'd" by KELLY F***ING KELLY of all people is more valuable than Alex Riley. Bruh. I get that people don't like him, but it's ridiculous and practically a meme now to claim that someone who clearly can't wrestle is more useful than someone who can. Clearly, Riley should apologize for not being a vaguely hot chick and not sleeping with a member of creative to keep his job. Smh. Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT? If you're offended on her behalf, you should also be offended that someone invoked her name as an insult to another wrestler. And also can we as a forum stop pretending that Riley is still that same botch tastiv green dude from 2010-2011?
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Post by FinalGwen on Feb 21, 2016 18:15:38 GMT -5
Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT? If you're offended on her behalf, you should also be offended that someone invoked her name as an insult to another wrestler. And also can we as a forum stop pretending that Riley is still that same botch tastiv green dude from 2010-2011? Saying she's flawed as a performer - which is perfectly true - and using the sexist rhetoric that "she has a job ergo she must be sleeping with someone" are several leagues apart. And given that you're using a match with Kelly Kelly as a metric, are examples from 2011 only ok when it's not someone you like?
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Post by Savage Gambino on Feb 21, 2016 19:06:08 GMT -5
Yes clearly the chick who botched standing still and got "Stupid Stupid'd" by KELLY F***ING KELLY of all people is more valuable than Alex Riley. Bruh. I get that people don't like him, but it's ridiculous and practically a meme now to claim that someone who clearly can't wrestle is more useful than someone who can. Clearly, Riley should apologize for not being a vaguely hot chick and not sleeping with a member of creative to keep his job. Smh. Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT? Also, besides being WWE's first out LGBT female, she's also one of the stars of Total Divas, has been a reliable valet, and had some good reviews from OVW so she was possibly competent at one point. Aside from having the luck of being paired with one of WWE's hottest heels, Alex Riley's never been more than another body. A generic white guy who looks good in trunks and acts like a pissant on social media. My point still stands. Hell, if anybody is only employed because of proper "lip service", it's A-Ri because I can't think of a single other reason why he would still be employed.
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Post by ManInGauze on Feb 21, 2016 19:10:20 GMT -5
You know, I think I like Mojo Rawley better than Alex Riley.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 21, 2016 19:26:35 GMT -5
You know, I think I like Mojo Rawley better than Alex Riley. Where does he fall on your Roman and Bray meter?
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Feb 21, 2016 19:33:45 GMT -5
Yes clearly the chick who botched standing still and got "Stupid Stupid'd" by KELLY F***ING KELLY of all people is more valuable than Alex Riley. Bruh. I get that people don't like him, but it's ridiculous and practically a meme now to claim that someone who clearly can't wrestle is more useful than someone who can. Clearly, Riley should apologize for not being a vaguely hot chick and not sleeping with a member of creative to keep his job. Smh. Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT? Alex Riley is sleeping with....*spins wheel*....Axel Tischer, ergo why he is still employed.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 21, 2016 19:36:38 GMT -5
Can we as a forum collectively say that Alex Riley is only employed because he's sleeping with someone? Can't get through any thread that mentions Rosa - WWE's first out LGBT female and a domestic abuse victim - without the Michael Hayes meme and people treating their misogynistic assumptions about why she's employed as fact, so why not for Riley, who's an active PR detriment, insults fans and talent alike, and managed to botch not falling over the top rope during the Royal Rumble, as well as somehow mistaking Percy Watson for Kaval in NXT? Also, besides being WWE's first out LGBT female, she's also one of the stars of Total Divas, has been a reliable valet, and had some good reviews from OVW so she was possibly competent at one point. Aside from having the luck of being paired with one of WWE's hottest heels, Alex Riley's never been more than another body. A generic white guy who looks good in trunks and acts like a pissant on social media. My point still stands. Hell, if anybody is only employed because of proper "lip service", it's A-Ri because I can't think of a single other reason why he would still be employed. Riley has also gotten good reviews in FCW and during his time wrestling as a C-show jobber long after he stopped being relevant. Also the reason I'm offended by the Rosa comparison is because Riley has made improvements in the ring from his "shit the bed every time he's in the ring" days while Rosa has not, and if she was competent, she regressed Rosa is the first out LGBT female and One of the stars of Total Divas...and neither of those things have anything to do with wrestling; someone placed her on Total Divas directly as a kneejerk reaction to the mass release a few years ago as an attempt to justify keeping her around. The reason I mentioned Kelly Kelly is because how bad do you have to be as a performer to get "Stupid Stupid'd" by another subpar performer. Riley's only real flaw is not being as good as the best wrestlers in the company, which really isn't a crime. Even the tweet that you made your response to was not even that bad. You're acting as if he told little kids to go f*** themselves or called someone who just wanted to give him constructive criticism a racial/gay slur or something. He only acts like a "dick" to people who are blatantly heckling or trolling him (yeah, don't feed the trolls, but feeding the trolls isn't a "f*** this guy" offense).
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Feb 21, 2016 19:41:54 GMT -5
Also, besides being WWE's first out LGBT female, she's also one of the stars of Total Divas, has been a reliable valet, and had some good reviews from OVW so she was possibly competent at one point. Aside from having the luck of being paired with one of WWE's hottest heels, Alex Riley's never been more than another body. A generic white guy who looks good in trunks and acts like a pissant on social media. My point still stands. Hell, if anybody is only employed because of proper "lip service", it's A-Ri because I can't think of a single other reason why he would still be employed. Riley has also gotten good reviews in FCW and during his time wrestling as a C-show jobber long after he stopped being relevant. Also the reason I'm offended by the Rosa comparison is because Riley has made improvements in the ring from his "shit the bed every time he's in the ring" days while Rosa has not, and if she was competent, she regressed Rosa is the first out LGBT female and One of the stars of Total Divas...and neither of those things have anything to do with wrestling; someone placed her on Total Divas directly as a kneejerk reaction to the mass release a few years ago as an attempt to justify keeping her around. The reason I mentioned Kelly Kelly is because how bad do you have to be as a performer to get "Stupid Stupid'd" by another subpar performer. Riley's only real flaw is not being as good as the best wrestlers in the company, which really isn't a crime. Even the tweet that you made your response to was not even that bad. You're acting as if he told little kids to go f*** themselves or called someone who just wanted to give him constructive criticism a racial/gay slur or something. He only acts like a "dick" to people who are blatantly heckling or trolling him (yeah, don't feed the trolls, but feeding the trolls isn't a "f*** this guy" offense). It's not like Riley's infallible in the ring either, IIRC he supposedly f***ed up a pretty big spot in the Rumble a few years back. So much so that The Miz on commentary didn't realise and got confused when said spot was supposed to happen.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 21, 2016 19:47:42 GMT -5
Riley has also gotten good reviews in FCW and during his time wrestling as a C-show jobber long after he stopped being relevant. Also the reason I'm offended by the Rosa comparison is because Riley has made improvements in the ring from his "shit the bed every time he's in the ring" days while Rosa has not, and if she was competent, she regressed Rosa is the first out LGBT female and One of the stars of Total Divas...and neither of those things have anything to do with wrestling; someone placed her on Total Divas directly as a kneejerk reaction to the mass release a few years ago as an attempt to justify keeping her around. The reason I mentioned Kelly Kelly is because how bad do you have to be as a performer to get "Stupid Stupid'd" by another subpar performer. Riley's only real flaw is not being as good as the best wrestlers in the company, which really isn't a crime. Even the tweet that you made your response to was not even that bad. You're acting as if he told little kids to go f*** themselves or called someone who just wanted to give him constructive criticism a racial/gay slur or something. He only acts like a "dick" to people who are blatantly heckling or trolling him (yeah, don't feed the trolls, but feeding the trolls isn't a "f*** this guy" offense). It's not like Riley's infallible in the ring either, IIRC he supposedly f***ed up a pretty big spot in the Rumble a few years back. So much so that The Miz on commentary didn't realise and got confused when said spot was supposed to happen. I never said he was infallible. Just that people seem to act as if he is STILL that bad when he isn't. Hes improved since then. I'd actually say that Riley is one of the best in ring out of the "non-workrate guys". He's better than he's given credit for so when someone says he's "Rosa Mendes levels of awful", it just comes off to me as intentionally hyperbolic "it's cool to hate Alex Riley LOL I got 20x20 tattooed on my neck hur hur hur" BS.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 21, 2016 19:53:51 GMT -5
Holy f***, how does this EXACT argument always start? Like, there's no chance Alex Riley is worth this level of passion from anyone.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 21, 2016 19:58:04 GMT -5
Holy f***, how does this EXACT argument always start? Like, there's no chance Alex Riley is worth this level of passion from anyone. Alex Riley isn't worth this level of hate either. I actually thought this thread was fun, and then people started spouting the same "Alex Riley is the worst, f*** this guy he should be fired" nonsense. Maybe if people gave constructive criticism rather than making threads just to pile on the guy, this wouldn't happen.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 21, 2016 20:03:12 GMT -5
Holy f***, how does this EXACT argument always start? Like, there's no chance Alex Riley is worth this level of passion from anyone. Alex Riley isn't worth this level of hate either. I actually thought this thread was fun, and then people started spouting the same "Alex Riley is the worst, f*** this guy he should be fired" nonsense. Maybe if people gave constructive criticism rather than making threads just to pile on the guy, this wouldn't happen. The thing is, dude....Riley sucks. I mean, he's not "the worst wrestler ever" level of sucking, he's not Giant Gonzalez. But there's a reason he's spent 90% of his time with the company in developmental. Saying that "He's one of the best in the company that's not one of the best in the company" over and over again isn't convincing anybody. Fans demonstrably don't care about him, IWC or otherwise, and he constantly makes himself look like a douche on social media. f***....this thread and post are starting to feel like an intervention, I'm bailing.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 21, 2016 20:48:11 GMT -5
"He's not as bad as he was!" ain't exactly something to crow about/or a real compliment to him. I don't mind the dude, but in any box you wanna tick, he's OK. That's it. There's no shame in merely being an ok, utilitarian dude. But at the same time, if we're not acting like he's terrible, let's ALSO not act like the guy is anything special in any category. He's alright. But trumpeting him not being terrible just smacks of:
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Post by cool on Feb 21, 2016 20:57:03 GMT -5
Stupid'd Stupid'd? Did Kelly yell Stupid at Rosa?
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Feb 21, 2016 21:01:25 GMT -5
Hey, I'll give Riley this; when he cuts a promo I listen. When he wrestles a match I watch. That's more than I can say for half of the main roster.
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