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Post by Chuck Conry on Apr 11, 2016 17:38:16 GMT -5
I saw a podcast clip where Ric Flair talked about how Hulk never would wrestle Rude, calling him the "Tasmanian devil" in the ring. Said when he came to WCW he didn't want to work with Vader or Rude, but ended up facing Vader but never ever faced Rude. And he made it a point to say that in WWF or WCW Hogan never wrestled Rude.
That, however, is not true. I googled it and it turns out Rude took on Hogan at least once. It was a bit strange because the red, white, and blue ropes were put up out of order with red, blue, and white.
Does anyone know if this was a one and done or if they had a series of matches?
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 11, 2016 17:54:30 GMT -5
Just one match
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 11, 2016 19:45:50 GMT -5
Hogan had several "reasons" for not facing Rude, apparently. Allegedly, he felt Rude was "too small" to be taken seriously against him (not entirely sure on that one, given Hogan's earlier program with Piper and his later one with Perfect), that he worked too rough (also not entirely sure on that one), and my favorite is that Hogan was legitimately intimidated by Rude, as Rude didn't kiss his ass and Hogan knew Rude could hurt him. Not sure on that one either, but given Rude's arm-wrestling credentials, I imagine he wasn't one to tolerate some of Hogan's BS.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 11, 2016 21:11:33 GMT -5
Hogan had several "reasons" for not facing Rude, apparently. Allegedly, he felt Rude was "too small" to be taken seriously against him (not entirely sure on that one, given Hogan's earlier program with Piper and his later one with Perfect), that he worked too rough (also not entirely sure on that one), and my favorite is that Hogan was legitimately intimidated by Rude, as Rude didn't kiss his ass and Hogan knew Rude could hurt him. Not sure on that one either, but given Rude's arm-wrestling credentials, I imagine he wasn't one to tolerate some of Hogan's BS. Didn't Rude and Vader turn down putting Hogan over when he got to WCW, anyhow? I guess some of it might have been Rude returning the favor for Hogan not working him in WWF, if that is the case, but maybe the disinterest was mutual.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 11, 2016 21:31:21 GMT -5
Hogan had several "reasons" for not facing Rude, apparently. Allegedly, he felt Rude was "too small" to be taken seriously against him (not entirely sure on that one, given Hogan's earlier program with Piper and his later one with Perfect), that he worked too rough (also not entirely sure on that one), and my favorite is that Hogan was legitimately intimidated by Rude, as Rude didn't kiss his ass and Hogan knew Rude could hurt him. Not sure on that one either, but given Rude's arm-wrestling credentials, I imagine he wasn't one to tolerate some of Hogan's BS. Given Bret's story of how Rude once threatened mid-match to rip Warrior's head off and shove it up his ass, and Warrior caved like a house of cards, this is entirely believable.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 11, 2016 21:33:30 GMT -5
Rude definitely had the rep of being someone you didn't want to f*** with.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 11, 2016 21:52:48 GMT -5
They had the match that made Hogan's DVD set and one in Vancouver the same year. I remember watching a Bobby Heenan shoot where he said Hogan didn't like Rude's attitude. I can't remember if there were any more details.
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Post by efarns on Apr 11, 2016 22:56:46 GMT -5
Rude shooting on Hogan would have been the worst decision of his life. Whatever the outcome, he loses.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 12, 2016 1:52:56 GMT -5
Rude shooting on Hogan would have been the worst decision of his life. Whatever the outcome, he loses. He was probably too much of a professional to f*** with the end result, likely, but he could do what Flair did to Scott Steiner and deliberately have a poor match.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 12, 2016 3:38:39 GMT -5
I love Rick Rude. Such a cool dude. I posted about this recently actually, they did face off once in 1987 (below) they may have done some other matches on house shows but it wasnt much. As for WCW, wasn't Rude injured on May 1st 1994 in Japan and Hogan didnt sign until June, so the timing is off on that one. I mean it may have come in conversation between Flair and Hogan but it cant have been something that was even considered at that point. Rude doesnt look that small at all, probably the same size as Dibaise, Piper, Savage, Perfect, perhaps slightly smaller than Orndorff but not by much. I mean hes slimmer than Hogan but height wise he looks fine Rude vs Hogan www.dailymotion.com/video/x36thq_hulk-hogan-vs-ravishing-rick-rude-w_sportI was looking into this a bit more and found this, they say Savage and Rude faced off which I was not aware of, turns out its true they headlined shows in December of '88 Also here is Hogan on Rude (when talking about the Warrior showcase in 2k15)
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Post by jmule on Apr 12, 2016 6:04:53 GMT -5
What about the 87 survivor series match?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 12, 2016 6:09:06 GMT -5
Rude got injured while Hogan was negotiating with WCW so I doubt the story of him refusing to work with Hogan is anything more than bluster, a backstage expression of how peeved he was at that turn of events.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Apr 12, 2016 12:17:23 GMT -5
This could've been a great feud
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 14, 2016 20:13:46 GMT -5
If I'm correct those handful of matches Hogan had with Rude were pretty early in Rude's WWF run, long before he hit his peak as a worker.
Supposedly the original plan coming out of SummerSlam 1990 was that Warrior would beat Rude convincingly (which happened) and Hogan would beat Earthquake convincingly (which didn't happen). Then they would segway into a Hogan-Rude program. Hogan vetoed the idea. He supposedly felt that Rude was too small for anybody to believe he could threaten Hogan and Hogan insisted his program with Earthquake continue. Personally I just think Hogan didn't want to work with the Warrior's sloppy seconds.
Rude was then penciled into a program with the Big Boss Man, which of course never really got going. At that point Rude evaluated his career - he had just finished his second program with the Warrior, he wasn't getting another. Hogan made sure he was never gonna get a program with him. He wasn't gonna get a title reign, either World or IC, anytime soon. There really were no other main event slots open to him. He figured he had done all he could possibly do in the WWF and decided to leave for WCW.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 14, 2016 20:32:26 GMT -5
Wasn't there some rumor about Hogan's buddy Beefcake pissing off Rude to the point that Rude stood up and knocked out Beefcake with an open-handed slap?
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 15, 2016 4:14:44 GMT -5
Had Rude stayed in 1990, he would have been a better choice than Slaughter as the transitional champion between Warrior and Hogan. Rude vs Hogan at Wrestlemania VII.But I guess when you think about it Rude (as the heel usually does) had lost most of his feuds with top names, Jake Roberts, Ultimate Warrior, Roddy Piper, Ultimate Warrior again. From that perspective I can see Hogan's point, he has only previously been booked against strong opponents there were to new to be tainted or had been put over by others.
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Post by jmule on Apr 15, 2016 6:17:44 GMT -5
What if rude gave Linda Hogan a rude awakening? Oh brother!
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