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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 1:05:52 GMT -5
It kind of blows my mind that the dude who does Cyborg's voice on Teen Titans Go is playing King Ezekiel.
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Post by Bruce Mother Wayne on Oct 31, 2016 1:30:31 GMT -5
Yeah that's my issue. I love The Americans. In many ways it's similar, we know how the cold war ends so know everything they're doing is essentially futile, it can also be boiled down to a series of brutal events done in order to survive. Yet there's an end game there, more focused character development and I feel it has more to say about it's themes. Similar thing with GoT, much of the story has been a futile series of battles before the real war begins but again you know what that endgame will be and it feels like there's more of a purpose there. I too would have liked to have seen essentially been heels in the Alexandria story, turning them into the type of group they once battled. That's more interesting to me than another big bad. Of course it's early in this storyline so I could be speaking too soon especially as it could easily be tied to real world events. What might work in TWD's favour is doing a flash-forward to then build anticipation to that moment. Breaking Bad did it to great effect in Season 5. And even The Americans, the Cold War ends, but that leaves viewers wondering how the characters will deal with that moment (and will they even get to that moment at all?). The destination isn't the be-all, end-all, as the journey can be the thing that's worth watching with TV shows. But when people complain about TWD, it seems like they're complaining about the lack of a destination and questioning what the point of the journey actually is. It doesn't make for a great TV watching experience! |
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Post by Stu on Oct 31, 2016 9:16:05 GMT -5
My problem with Walking Dead, and the reason why I'm unsure whether I'm going to continue watching, has nothing to do with gore and all to do with bad writing. When the show started off, it was an interesting show about humans trying to survive in a zombie world, and how the biggest threats were other humans. The Walkers have never been the main threat, and I thought that was great. But as the seasons have gone on, there seems to be less of a story and a point to everything. It's just a series of events that are trying to outdo previous events in their savagery, and then stuff in-between. Less 'how do we tell an interesting story?', and more 'how do we shock the viewers more than last time?' It's lazy writing. The show also seems to be Rick and crew running into a group of people. Lot's of death happens. They move on. Meet a group of people. Again Lots of death. Rinse and repeat. I lost track of the show when I got super busy with some stuff a year ago, and this repeating plotline is sort of keeping me on edge of catching up with the show. Well that's all you're going to get. Kirkman made it clear that there's no cure and they're permanently in the zombie apocalypse. So until the actual show/comic ends, it'll just be them fighting again and again with zombies running around in the background. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 31, 2016 9:19:46 GMT -5
The show also seems to be Rick and crew running into a group of people. Lot's of death happens. They move on. Meet a group of people. Again Lots of death. Rinse and repeat. I lost track of the show when I got super busy with some stuff a year ago, and this repeating plotline is sort of keeping me on edge of catching up with the show. Well that's all you're going to get. Kirkman made it clear that there's no cure and they're permanently in the zombie apocalypse. So until the actual show/comic ends, it'll just be them fighting again and again with zombies running around in the background. Actually, I could swear I read that: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
The series would wrap up with them figuring our a cure and slight signs of "normal" life resuming. |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Oct 31, 2016 18:29:30 GMT -5
Alrighty got round to watching this episode. I enjoyed it. Honestly after the craziness of last weeks episode, I had a feeling this weeks one would be slightly less of a calm down. - So far I am enjoying Ezekiel, I enjoy his positive attidude etc and when he went out of character later when talking to Carol. Comic Related {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I'll be sad to see his head on a spear 2 and a half seasons from now  - Shiva didn't look to bad.. I've certainly seen worse CGI. - Carol is the same old crazy bitch as ever and I wouldn't want that to change.. What is Interesting mind you is it seems she is playing Michonnes role at this point in the comics. If back in Season 2 you had said she would turn into this kind of Character, Yeah whatever you say pal. - Morgan has a student now in Ben.. That's cool, Sounds like his Dad is a victim of Lucille. - I do kind of wish we could have gotten a bit more of an aftermath of Rick and Co still getting over what they just been through but I guess that is all to come. --------------------- So yeah, Somewhat of a calm after the storm but I still enjoyed it for what it was. Interested to see where they go from here. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 31, 2016 22:47:41 GMT -5
Hey look, it's a CGIger
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 31, 2016 23:48:45 GMT -5
I enjoyed the episode. King Ezekiel was great and I look forward to seeing Morgan and his apprentice.
Also, I'm looking forward to seeing Carol's role in the coming war. With Seamus dead and Daryl captured she's Rick's best weapon now.
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Post by LastCall on Nov 3, 2016 19:57:41 GMT -5
Finally got a chance to see this. It was definitely a good thing to have a breather episode after the chaos of last week. I must say, with Sheamus gone, big Zeke is starting to become my new fave character. The guy is extremely charismatic and has a certain charm about him that you can't help but like. And even though it's a facade, it's as he says, someone the people can look up to and follow. I look forward to seeing more of him and Shiva.
Also, I love that the actor was wearing a Cowboy Bebop shirt on Talking Dead.
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Post by Glitch on Nov 4, 2016 5:08:31 GMT -5
The show also seems to be Rick and crew running into a group of people. Lot's of death happens. They move on. Meet a group of people. Again Lots of death. Rinse and repeat. I lost track of the show when I got super busy with some stuff a year ago, and this repeating plotline is sort of keeping me on edge of catching up with the show. Well that's all you're going to get. Kirkman made it clear that there's no cure and they're permanently in the zombie apocalypse. So until the actual show/comic ends, it'll just be them fighting again and again with zombies running around in the background. Even with no cure,you can still have a non-repetitive storyline. They could be trying to secure a water source, or fighting over certain resources or bombs left over from the military. It just seems to be almost entirely about crazy jerks killing people because they are crazy jerks. The show has strong character development, but it's sort of underwhelmed by the repetitiveness of the plot. The characters are why I haven't likely 100% given up on it. |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 4, 2016 5:34:47 GMT -5
Well that's all you're going to get. Kirkman made it clear that there's no cure and they're permanently in the zombie apocalypse. So until the actual show/comic ends, it'll just be them fighting again and again with zombies running around in the background. Even with no cure,you can still have a non-repetitive storyline. They could be trying to secure a water source, or fighting over certain resources or bombs left over from the military. It just seems to be almost entirely about crazy jerks killing people because they are crazy jerks. The show has strong character development, but it's sort of underwhelmed by the repetitiveness of the plot. The characters are why I haven't likely 100% given up on it. I do see your point. In the comics after the cannibals there wasn't a human threat until Negan. That crap at the hospital and The Wolves weren't in the comic. The TV show is oversatuated with human threats. The Wolves showing up just before Negan kinda detracted from The Saviors IMO. They weren't needed, I did like the Morgan subplot butvthat could havr worked just as easy with a threat inside Alexandria like someone plotting against Rick or someone who commited murder. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 4, 2016 8:59:01 GMT -5
Even with no cure,you can still have a non-repetitive storyline. They could be trying to secure a water source, or fighting over certain resources or bombs left over from the military. It just seems to be almost entirely about crazy jerks killing people because they are crazy jerks. The show has strong character development, but it's sort of underwhelmed by the repetitiveness of the plot. The characters are why I haven't likely 100% given up on it. I do see your point. In the comics after the cannibals there wasn't a human threat until Negan. That crap at the hospital and The Wolves weren't in the comic. The TV show is oversatuated with human threats. The Wolves showing up just before Negan kinda detracted from The Saviors IMO. They weren't needed, I did like the Morgan subplot butvthat could havr worked just as easy with a threat inside Alexandria like someone plotting against Rick or someone who commited murder. I really question whether Scott Gimple gets what alot of the comic is about to be honest. |
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 6, 2016 21:19:50 GMT -5
I don't think that asshole's pee-pee is fine.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 6, 2016 21:26:42 GMT -5
Lucha Walker
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Nov 6, 2016 22:05:22 GMT -5
Well, Daryl Dixon is no Theon Greyjoy.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 6, 2016 22:08:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't empathize with Dwight.
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Post by Perd on Nov 6, 2016 23:13:27 GMT -5
The zombie apocalypse was rough on Dwight. From fronting the Spin Doctors to Negan's bitch.
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Post by Stu on Nov 7, 2016 1:12:08 GMT -5
Good episode. I'm a fan of Dwight's character from the comics so I was glad to see an episode about him. And I would totally break after hearing that damn song over and over again.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Nov 7, 2016 2:04:37 GMT -5
I know it's only three episodes in, but, I feel like this show is starting to lose some steam. It just doesn't have the same appeal as it did in the earlier seasons. I mean Yeah, the season 7 premiere was.beyond brutal and really got the adrenaline going. But these last two just seem to drag really bad. Jeffery Dean Morgan being the lone bright spot.
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Post by LastCall on Nov 7, 2016 2:09:47 GMT -5
I was looking away from my screen when the episode started, but when it did, I had to check my DVR to make sure I recorded the right show. That was quite the interesting montage to open with, showing a glimpse in the daily life of Dwight set to a soundtrack unsuitable for the situation. I do like how they delved into Dwight's backstory and why he's where he's at, as well as him trying to appeal to Darryl to get him to join the saviors. It probably won't excuse all the stuff he did, but at least we were able to see where he was coming from. Of course, this episode made it seem like Dwight make one more turn before this arc is over. I just wonder what that crucial moment will be. And I have to admit, that song was kinda catchy. Warning, do not open unless you want your ears to bleed. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} |
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Post by ICBM on Nov 7, 2016 11:36:53 GMT -5
I'll complain on the Shiva CGI. I hate it when it is obvious. There were moments when it looked legit, then she'd move and ruin it.
No damns given about Dwight. I have no idea why anyone cared about this guy (not a comic reader).
As to the complaints on where the show is going and if its spinning wheels:
They are literally right in the turn portion of the classic pro wrestling hero story. Our heroes got a mega push and looked simply unbeatable (the on fire babyface). Anticipation for change grows. We still loved the babyface but the act gets old. Enter a new heel. The heel commits an act so devastating it leaves the audience more sympathetic than ever for the babyface, but salivating over the heel's next move. This is where we are right now.
Eventually, the babyface will get their heat back and evolve bc of all thee above. But this show has so many characters to pay off it is easy to be impatient and or get lost in the soup and leave
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