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Post by Fade on May 11, 2017 17:49:36 GMT -5
Still sucks. I was a comic book fan in the 90s and I wasn't like "f*** YEAH STEEL". Most of Marvel is canned coke but it's mainly entertaining but I'm amazed at how much the DCCU has shit the show so far. BVS, Suicide Squad...and things are looking grim for Wonder Woman and Justice League. But I'll be the first to give them props if they get it right. How exactly are things looking grim for Wonder Woman and Justice League? Just because of a few negative articles from journalists with an obvious bias? Wonder Woman not being advertised well is a thing several outlets have reported on. As for JL..well, I guess it's personal. I just saw the trailers. Edit: Again: if it's good I'll be the first to eat crow. But if WW and JL suck, I expect the other camp to do the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 18:19:52 GMT -5
I guess what I am getting at is that it seems like every article regarding the DECU is a negative one. You have reporters who are obviously allowed to ask questions, research, and post their findings. But when it comes to "Will Justice League be better than the Avengers?" and you post a gif of Chris Evans laughing. Why add fuel to the fire? Why jump to conclusions as if it's the gospel? Why not just wait until November? If the film sucks then so be it, but this whole Marvel vs. DC rivalry is just stale and ridiculous. Why can't us fans just be happy that we're getting Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Thor, and Justice League this year. Then with Infinity War, Black Panther, Ant-Man and The Wasp, and Infinity War sequel. It's a great time to be a comic book fan overall. It's a simple case of people within a sub-sub-culture still showing cases of classic snobbery and/or needing something to look down their nose at (not applicable to everyone, I'm sure people have completely valid complaints about whatever blah blah blah). Add in to that the "movie newz" sites propensity for the pop culture equivalent of yellow journalism. DC's the current guaranteed click-bait schadenfreude for these kinds of movies. It's the nature of that industry, catering to movie fans' baser instincts and desires. People are more likely to click on an article that's like "DC Drops the Ball again - this time laughably bad!" even if the article is something innocuous rather than an article about how excited the cast is to be working together or whatever. But yeah, I'll never understand how people can really act like there's some real difference between these movies. DCCU, MCU, BayFormers, Underworld, Resident Evil flicks. They're all basically the same thing - big, dumb, action films. It always cracks me up when I hear people fawn over one like it's significantly better than the another. It's all just films to sell Doritos and action figures. It's just entertainment and when people pretend like one studio really has the creative edge over the other....well, haha, I just laugh because they're all pretty creatively bankrupt. The only real difference is taste/style. Some people like Marvel's style. Some people like DC's. Some people just Tommy Dreamer that shit. I dunno. Personally it just comes down to who ever is making the best movie at that time. Whichever film is the best from title card to credits - that's what it's about to me (and that varies from year to year). "Studio-allegiance" has got to be one of the silliest damn things I've seen grow out of the drudgery that is "superhero filmmaking."
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Post by Jiren on May 11, 2017 18:24:53 GMT -5
I really want this to be good but dammit that trailer was awful & DCEU's track record thus far has been abysmal so my excitement for this is non existent.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 12, 2017 6:41:18 GMT -5
Maybe I'm off on this, but I read the Lane comment as a response to "can you tell us if...", which would make sense to respond "no" to. Not "is it better?", but "can you tell us if it will be better?"
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 7:26:03 GMT -5
Save Martha... Martha? Why did you say that name? Did we become best friends? Batman: Do we know Darkseid's mothers name? This could be terribly important... ![](https://ifunnyco.akamaized.net/images/5fe9d1885cba9f058970802864abcda492283408649af6fc96fa12160af564d6_1.jpg) But it's Heggra. .......which could be New Godsian for Martha.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on May 12, 2017 12:26:33 GMT -5
Maybe I'm off on this, but I read the Lane comment as a response to "can you tell us if...", which would make sense to respond "no" to. Not "is it better?", but "can you tell us if it will be better?" To be fair, she was asked two questions "Can you give us spoilers, and is it better than Avengers?" and her response was "No, and no. Sorry to disappoint." However, that's the excuse she's going with. comicbook.com/dc/2017/05/12/diane-lane-clarifies-justice-league-comments/
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Post by Jiren on May 22, 2017 22:22:23 GMT -5
People wanted humour in DC movies now with Whedon taking charge we'll get shit tones of it now {Spoiler}Happy now
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 22, 2017 22:30:19 GMT -5
Thanks for brining the Whedon news to this thread, so as not to clash with the real life goings on in the Snyder family.
That said, hopes for Avengers 1 Whedon, not Age of Ultron Whedon.
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Post by Jiren on May 22, 2017 22:32:52 GMT -5
Thanks for brining the Whedon news to this thread, so as not to clash with the real life goings on in the Snyder family. That said, hopes for Avengers 1 Whedon, not Age of Ultron Whedon. I wasn't even being nasty/Snarky in the other thread, Sympathy for the family goes without saying.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 22, 2017 22:33:32 GMT -5
That said, hopes for Avengers 1 Whedon, not Age of Ultron Whedon. There's a difference? Sure, the Black Widow/Hulk romance was very forced, but by most accounts Mervel had him on a tighter leash on Age of Ultron.
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Post by Jiren on May 22, 2017 22:34:45 GMT -5
That said, hopes for Avengers 1 Whedon, not Age of Ultron Whedon. There's a difference? Sure, the Black Widow/Hulk romance was very forced, but by most accounts Mervel had him on a tighter leash on Age of Ultron. I think the Comedic elements in AOU were more overbearing
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 22, 2017 23:01:01 GMT -5
There's a difference? Sure, the Black Widow/Hulk romance was very forced, but by most accounts Mervel had him on a tighter leash on Age of Ultron. I think the Comedic elements in AOU were more overbearing That's one of the aspects of AOU I never had a problem with, myself.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 23, 2017 9:27:02 GMT -5
People wanted humour in DC movies now with Whedon taking charge we'll get shit tones of it now Most people's problem with the DC Universe wasn't that "Humor" was missing. They wanted the characters to be recognizable and truer to the source material They aren't all dark and broody assholes. It CAN work for Batman but even in the books he's not one 100% of the time. Not to mention the movies to make sense and not be jumbled messes of ideas. . ------- That said, at this point Whedon's only doing the reshoots his actual contributions to this movie is likely to be minimal, any difference that is seen in this is much more likely because of Snyder's original demotion and Geoff's input than anything Joss is adding.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 23, 2017 9:50:05 GMT -5
So this is how we solve the Miller/Gustin problem... {Spoiler} Whedon's gonna Quicksilver the Flash, isn't he? Because, shocking swerve death.
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Post by ronin705 on May 23, 2017 9:56:17 GMT -5
I think the Comedic elements in AOU were more overbearing That's one of the aspects of AOU I never had a problem with, myself. I felt it was a slight manipulation tactic by the Avengers, to make Hulk their glass cannon. Would've preferred to see Professor or Grey, since we're hopping straight to Worldbreaker in the new Thor... But back on topic, any predictions for easter eggs??
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Post by Fundertaker on May 23, 2017 10:00:41 GMT -5
That's one of the aspects of AOU I never had a problem with, myself. I felt it was a slight manipulation tactic by the Avengers, to make Hulk their glass cannon. Would've preferred to see Professor or Grey, since we're hopping straight to Worldbreaker in the new Thor... But back on topic, any predictions for easter eggs?? I think we'll see something Green Lantern and Shazam/Black Adam related. If not full on surprise reveal.
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Post by ronin705 on May 23, 2017 10:03:50 GMT -5
I felt it was a slight manipulation tactic by the Avengers, to make Hulk their glass cannon. Would've preferred to see Professor or Grey, since we're hopping straight to Worldbreaker in the new Thor... But back on topic, any predictions for easter eggs?? I think we'll see something Green Lantern and Shazam/Black Adam related. If not full on surprise reveal. They need to give up on that Black Adam/Shazam business lol cuz unless they get someone uhhh.. Channing Tatum level to match Rock's pressence, it's gonna be trash.... Also would need a good child actor.
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Post by Fundertaker on May 23, 2017 10:19:04 GMT -5
I think we'll see something Green Lantern and Shazam/Black Adam related. If not full on surprise reveal. They need to give up on that Black Adam/Shazam business lol cuz unless they get someone uhhh.. Channing Tatum level to match Rock's pressence, it's gonna be trash.... Also would need a good child actor. Well, with the Rock playing ultra-serious non-quipping Black Adam... they wouldn't need someone with that level of presence. The Rock is awesome when he's playing to his strengths (charismatic badass dude with great one-liners), but Black Adam can be a challenge, as I don't think he can do "I'm uber serious, y'all! TAKE ME SERIOUSLY! I AM DARK AND STUFF!" that well. Now, if we have a "fun" Black Adam... yeah, they'll need someone with a lot of presence to be at the same level. Then again, they supposedly want to make a Black Adam movie before a Shazam one so...
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Post by ronin705 on May 23, 2017 10:32:44 GMT -5
They need to give up on that Black Adam/Shazam business lol cuz unless they get someone uhhh.. Channing Tatum level to match Rock's pressence, it's gonna be trash.... Also would need a good child actor. Well, with the Rock playing ultra-serious non-quipping Black Adam... they wouldn't need someone with that level of presence. The Rock is awesome when he's playing to his strengths (charismatic badass dude with great one-liners), but Black Adam can be a challenge, as I don't think he can do "I'm uber serious, y'all! TAKE ME SERIOUSLY! I AM DARK AND STUFF!" that well. Now, if we have a "fun" Black Adam... yeah, they'll need someone with a lot of presence to be at the same level. Then again, they supposedly want to make a Black Adam movie before a Shazam one so... I think if he's in Hercules or Snitch mode, I think that he'll nail the serious down without too much difficulty.But his star level just will not remove the rocket from it's ass (lol) , so it's gonna need some serious talent to keep it from flopping it the critic's/fan's eyes.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 23, 2017 10:35:06 GMT -5
That said, at this point Whedon's only doing the reshoots his actual contributions to this movie is likely to be minimal, any difference that is seen in this is much more likely because of Snyder's original demotion and Geoff's input than anything Joss is adding. Yeah they're basically doing pick ups and maybe adding a scene or two. It's not a big Rogue One style restructuring. This whole situation is so insanely sad. Makes me sick to see some people actually claiming it's all a big cover up to fire Snyder. People have gotten so wrapped up in media and the "war" between two corporate entities that they can't even entertain the thought of a tragedy happening to a person they dislike.
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