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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 15:55:05 GMT -5
LDN Film A digital effects company have said they originally were working on an after credits scene that was cut. they also talked about another one that was actually leaked so it's possibly true. {Spoiler}"The original after credit scene that was shot in principal photography was Bruce being woken in the night in his lake house by a green light and being visited by Tomar Re and Kilowog. It was cut fairly early on during post," LDN_Film said.. They really need to put Green Lantern on ice for awhile. With a universe already struggling to match expectations on pretty much every movie except Wonder Woman, why on earth would you rush together a redux of one of the biggest flops of all time?
That'd be like if Disney's response to John Carter failing was to stick him in the Avengers.
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Post by Jiren on Nov 19, 2017 16:01:58 GMT -5
It's funny how a 70 min cartoon seemingly did a JL origin better than a multi million dollar movie.
And they only had Batman & Superman developed at the time
(I mainly mean the tv series but war was OK too)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 16:03:57 GMT -5
Looks like the good will of wonder woman wasnt enough to make up for 3 bad movies
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 16:04:56 GMT -5
It's funny how a 70 min cartoon seemingly did a JL origin better than a multi million dollar movie. And they only had Batman & Superman developed at the time (I mainly mean the tv series but war was OK too) Ehhh, it's been awhile since I watched the Justice League pilot so I can't really judge that one. What I CAN judge though is that it wouldn't be the first time, because Man of Steel was essentially just a dragged out boring version of Superman the Animated Series's pilot and Batman vs. Superman was basically the plot of the World's Finest crossover in the DCAU except stupid.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Nov 19, 2017 16:15:48 GMT -5
saw it, It was fairly enjoyable. I dug when superman was crazy for a bit and owned everybody. however theater reaction wise, the deadpool trailer got a bigger reaction than anything in the actual movie did. also during a point in the film I randomly remembered Marge vs The Monorail when Lyle is in the classroom talking to kids about the monorail and how fast it is.. {Spoiler}kid - can it outrun the flash?
Lyle - you bet!
other kid - can superman outrun the flash?
Lyle - uhh...sure kid, whatever..
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Nov 19, 2017 16:20:16 GMT -5
LDN Film A digital effects company have said they originally were working on an after credits scene that was cut. they also talked about another one that was actually leaked so it's possibly true. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}"The original after credit scene that was shot in principal photography was Bruce being woken in the night in his lake house by a green light and being visited by Tomar Re and Kilowog. It was cut fairly early on during post," LDN_Film said.. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}They really need to put Green Lantern on ice for awhile. With a universe already struggling to match expectations on pretty much every movie except Wonder Woman, why on earth would you rush together a redux of one of the biggest flops of all time?
That'd be like if Disney's response to John Carter failing was to stick him in the Avengers. Dude, I would so pay money to see Avengers of Mars. But I'm a weirdo.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 19, 2017 16:56:52 GMT -5
LDN Film A digital effects company have said they originally were working on an after credits scene that was cut. they also talked about another one that was actually leaked so it's possibly true. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}"The original after credit scene that was shot in principal photography was Bruce being woken in the night in his lake house by a green light and being visited by Tomar Re and Kilowog. It was cut fairly early on during post," LDN_Film said.. Glad they didn't do that one. That sounds pretty terrible honestly, not least of which is why would they go see him?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 19, 2017 18:10:30 GMT -5
LDN Film A digital effects company have said they originally were working on an after credits scene that was cut. they also talked about another one that was actually leaked so it's possibly true. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}"The original after credit scene that was shot in principal photography was Bruce being woken in the night in his lake house by a green light and being visited by Tomar Re and Kilowog. It was cut fairly early on during post," LDN_Film said.. Glad they didn't do that one. That sounds pretty terrible honestly, not least of which is why would they go see him? Yeah, that's my main takeaway of probably why it was cut pretty early... Even if it's like Hal sending word to earth from the Corps... why the hell would they go to Bruce?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 19, 2017 19:09:32 GMT -5
If anything, Wonder Woman should be front and center for anything DC movie wise going forward. She's the one thing that's been commercially and critically successful.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 19, 2017 20:28:11 GMT -5
Box Office Mojo has it as $96M domestically for the weekend Oof. Not even breaching $100M. I looked back to see how much Guardians Vol 1 made, because I was sure they did as well or better, and I was close: $94 million weekend box office. From a general film standpoint, that's nothing to scoff at, but I don't know how much the film cost to produce. Besides that, though, if you would have told me the first ever Justice League movie would fare only slightly better than the Guardians of the Galaxy's first cinematic outing, and get trounced by their second, first I would have asked you "who the hell are the Guardians of the Galaxy?" Then, I would Google it (Google is free ), come back, and have a sensible chuckle because no way in a Jamaican's tank top are the most famous superheroes in the world (and Cyborg) facing a challenge from a talking tree and a renegade raccoon. It really can't be understated how badly Warner Bros screwed the pooch with this one.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 19, 2017 21:32:18 GMT -5
Oof. Not even breaching $100M. I looked back to see how much Guardians Vol 1 made, because I was sure they did as well or better, and I was close: $94 million weekend box office. From a general film standpoint, that's nothing to scoff at, but I don't know how much the film cost to produce. Besides that, though, if you would have told me the first ever Justice League movie would fare only slightly better than the Guardians of the Galaxy's first cinematic outing, and get trounced by their second, first I would have asked you "who the hell are the Guardians of the Galaxy?" Then, I would Google it (Google is free ), come back, and have a sensible chuckle because no way in a Jamaican's tank top are the most famous superheroes in the world (and Cyborg) facing a challenge from a talking tree and a renegade raccoon. It really can't be understated how badly Warner Bros screwed the pooch with this one. Even then, Guardians was just another film of an already-successful superhero franchise, whereas Justice League is meant to be the capstone of the buildup from Batman v. Superman & Wonder Woman and the next phase of DC's cinematic universe.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 19, 2017 22:41:13 GMT -5
I looked back to see how much Guardians Vol 1 made, because I was sure they did as well or better, and I was close: $94 million weekend box office. From a general film standpoint, that's nothing to scoff at, but I don't know how much the film cost to produce. Besides that, though, if you would have told me the first ever Justice League movie would fare only slightly better than the Guardians of the Galaxy's first cinematic outing, and get trounced by their second, first I would have asked you "who the hell are the Guardians of the Galaxy?" Then, I would Google it (Google is free ), come back, and have a sensible chuckle because no way in a Jamaican's tank top are the most famous superheroes in the world (and Cyborg) facing a challenge from a talking tree and a renegade raccoon. It really can't be understated how badly Warner Bros screwed the pooch with this one. Even then, Guardians was just another film of an already-successful superhero franchise, whereas Justice League is meant to be the capstone of the buildup from Batman v. Superman & Wonder Woman and the next phase of DC's cinematic universe. Yup. If comparisons are to be made, JL should be aiming for Avengers numbers, not treading water with Marvel's biggest surprise success and getting it's ass handed to it by goddamn Thor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 1:46:23 GMT -5
Another thing that's really likely to bite Justice League is its international gross for the weekend was $185.5 million and it's already opened everywhere except Japan. There's a very real chance it won't break $700 million which for what it is and the kind of budget it has is pathetic.
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Post by Starshine on Nov 20, 2017 2:06:11 GMT -5
I thought it was fine. At least on the better end of DC's efforts put forth in this series. I liked Cyborg, Flash (though the social anxiety stuff got a little old by the end), and I think they better represented Superman and Batman as more effective heroes. Especially highlighting Superman looking out for innocents during the final battle. I really wish Cyborg in particular had his own movie to better develop his story. To me he's the most interesting part of this team right now. I don't like their version of Roman Reigns Aquaman. Yes, arian fish whisperer isn't the sexiest thing in the world. But it felt like they were overcompensating with trying to make him sexy, cool, aloof fish man. Steppenwolf was a serviceable villain, albeit kind of nondescript. But a strong villain wasn't really needed so much as establishing the new team.
I wouldn't enthusiastically encourage any one to see it. But I also wouldn't tell anyone to avoid it. It's a decent middle of the road superhero flick.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 20, 2017 7:27:46 GMT -5
Considering this movie is the result of Warner Brothers' frantic attempt to catch Marvel after MOS, it was fine.
I would have been much more excited for this had they continued the "Monomyth" style from MOS to every member, and THEN had them actually team up. Don't forget, one reason the first Avengers movie worked so well was that they'd already built up most of the individual heros in their own movies, while(for the most part), relegating the future teases to the credits. Justice League would have been better served by following the same pattern.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 7:29:32 GMT -5
Considering this movie is the result of Warner Brothers' frantic attempt to catch Marvel after MOS, it was fine. I would have been much more excited for this had they continued the "Monomyth" style from MOS to every member, and THEN had them actually team up. Don't forget, one reason the first Avengers movie worked so well was that they'd already built up most of the individual heros in their own movies, while(for the most part), relegating the future teases to the credits. Justice League would have been better served by following the same pattern. Very true. There's a reason everyone tends to point to Iron Man 2 as one of the weakest of these when it was the only one of the original batch going, "Hey, let's pause the plot to hype up Avengers."
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 20, 2017 7:35:26 GMT -5
Considering this movie is the result of Warner Brothers' frantic attempt to catch Marvel after MOS, it was fine. I would have been much more excited for this had they continued the "Monomyth" style from MOS to every member, and THEN had them actually team up. Don't forget, one reason the first Avengers movie worked so well was that they'd already built up most of the individual heros in their own movies, while(for the most part), relegating the future teases to the credits. Justice League would have been better served by following the same pattern. Very true. There's a reason everyone tends to point to Iron Man 2 as one of the weakest of these when it was the only one of the original batch going, "Hey, let's pause the plot to hype up Avengers." I must admit, it's been a while since I've watched that movie so my memory might be a bit hazy, but where does it do that?
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 20, 2017 7:51:35 GMT -5
LDN Film A digital effects company have said they originally were working on an after credits scene that was cut. they also talked about another one that was actually leaked so it's possibly true. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}"The original after credit scene that was shot in principal photography was Bruce being woken in the night in his lake house by a green light and being visited by Tomar Re and Kilowog. It was cut fairly early on during post," LDN_Film said.. Glad they didn't do that one. That sounds pretty terrible honestly, not least of which is why would they go see him? Because he's G-D Batman. So yeah if I was doing the Flash movie I'd do Flashpoint. Let Affleck leave (if he wanted) and ignore MoS and BvS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 7:51:40 GMT -5
Very true. There's a reason everyone tends to point to Iron Man 2 as one of the weakest of these when it was the only one of the original batch going, "Hey, let's pause the plot to hype up Avengers." I must admit, it's been a while since I've watched that movie so my memory might be a bit hazy, but where does it do that? Mostly the stuff with Black Widow, the scenes with Nick Fury where they go back and forth on Tony joining the Avengers, and the random side thing with Tony inventing Vibranium or something (I don't know, I don't at all understand the logistics of Tony creating a thing that already exists from a step-by-step guide and then being praised for inventing it) because we need to set up Captain America's shield.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 20, 2017 8:35:23 GMT -5
I must admit, it's been a while since I've watched that movie so my memory might be a bit hazy, but where does it do that? Mostly the stuff with Black Widow, the scenes with Nick Fury where they go back and forth on Tony joining the Avengers, and the random side thing with Tony inventing Vibranium or something (I don't know, I don't at all understand the logistics of Tony creating a thing that already exists from a step-by-step guide and then being praised for inventing it) because we need to set up Captain America's shield. Ah, I see. Got to disagree there. The stuff about Tony joining/not joining the Avengers is during the last scene of the movie, so it's not really stopping the plot as much as it's a post-credits teaser that takes place right before the credits roll, while Tony creating the element for his arc reactor has nothing to do with vibranium, and Cap's shield is a sight gag that comes and goes in a matter of seconds. None of that details the plot of the movie or slows it down. Black Widow I suppose isn't really an essential character so could be considered a set up for the Avengers, I suppose, but even that makes sense within the plot. The government is worried about Tony's tech ending up in the wrong hands and he's refusing to play ball with them, so placing a spy in his company is the most logical thing to do. If the Avengers never happens the plot still works fine as a stand-alone. The problem with the movie is it's a shallower rehash of the first movie. Same basic Tony vs. Evil Guy Also in a Suit conflict, same Tony dealing with an internal conflict subplot, but never properly exploring either.
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