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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 4, 2017 6:38:34 GMT -5
Superman {Spoiler}"Multiplcity" kicks off with Clark meeting Red Sun Supes and helps him fend off the Gatherers. Val Zod and his team arrive and info-dump us on the situation. Meantime, Kenan Kong is captured by The Gatherers and we see Captain Carott devolved into a regular rabbit Batman {Spoiler}Pretty big filler issue, first of two, where Bruce and Selina spend the whole evening putting criminals away (including Kite Man) before having sex on a bed of diamonds on a rooftop JL vs Suicide Sqaud {Spoiler}Amanda reveals she brought in the JL so they can team up with her Squad and help protect her and an ancient weapon stored within Bel Reive from Maxwell's team, which just so happens to have been the original Suicide Squad. Best parts are Superman appealing to Caitlyn, Clark losing it when he sees Maxwell Lord's image, and Killer Croc laughing at the idea of the two teams coming together to protect Waller Annie strikes out on her own, much to her parents shock
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jan 4, 2017 13:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 4, 2017 13:54:07 GMT -5
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 4, 2017 14:47:38 GMT -5
Now Mole Man's gonna get it Though I do feel like Ryan is giving away WAAAAYYY too much of this fourth issue and they'll be nothing to surprise us at this rate And is MJ holding a boob?
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Post by Legion on Jan 4, 2017 15:11:23 GMT -5
New storyline to piss off fans. MJ found a lump....
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 4, 2017 23:50:58 GMT -5
this is a great page. {Spoiler}
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jan 5, 2017 1:28:56 GMT -5
I just picked up Steven T. Seagle's It's a Bird... from 2004, and it is a fascinating take on the significance of superheroes and the comic book medium. It is very much the spiritual precursor to Paul Dini's Dark Night: A True Batman Story. Teddy Kristiansen's art makes Superman feel timeless, whereas Seagle's prose about what Superman ultimately means to the world is an excellent complement to the kinds of Superman takes one finds in Grant Morrison's books, especially All-Star Superman.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 5, 2017 1:59:56 GMT -5
Some interesting news regarding an ASM Epic Collection coming out. Amongst the reprints in the edition (The end of the Hobgoblin Saga, Spider-Man vs Wolverine, Kraven's Last Hunt) will be the entire Wedding story arc, marking the first time Peter and MJ's marriage has been reprinted since the 90s. Also included in this collection will be the Spectacular Spider-Man annual that served as the follow up (Peter and MJ's honeymoon), which has never seen reprint before. The first trade of Conway and Stegman's RYV is scheduled for the same month also, so it's likely to tie into that, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was something else going on. www.amazon.com/Amazing-Spider-Man-Epic-Collection-Kravens/dp/1302907050/Oh, and this tickled me (language) {Spoiler}
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Post by Legion on Jan 5, 2017 2:54:38 GMT -5
this is a great page. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} I cannot begin to tell you how pleased I am Rich is back
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 5, 2017 3:53:15 GMT -5
I don't really agree with Moore's rather naïve and at times hypocritical take on creators rights, but when he's saying "the story is told, there is no more story left to tell, stop trying to write more or making me write more", it seems pretty definitive that you're kinda disregarding the spirit in which the story was written in in the first place and just plain looking for a cash grab. The issue I have with that statement or way of thought is that it completely contradicts just about every major work Moore has created, in that so much of his output has been revivals of older properties that by their own virtues had no more story left to tell. Revived Marvelman, deconstructed Swamp Thing, delved into a huge amount of Superman mythology in Whatever Happened to the Man From Tomorrow?, used a 1950s Joker appearance as a starting point for Killing Joke, and rebooted Supreme into his version of 1960s Superman. And between two series, managed to create sequels to Stoker's Dracula, Haggard's Quatermain, Wells' Invisible Man AND War of the Worlds, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Jekyll & Hyde, 20,000 Leagues, Fu Manchu, Sherlock Holmes, Wizard of Oz and about 893 more. The biggest reason I have just a little issue with it is that when Moore first created Watchmen, those were the old Charlton characters (Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, etc) he was about to dig up and do this to. The only reason that was changed is because DC backed out of letting him use the characters as they had decided to utilize them in the DCU proper. Almost every toy he plays with isn't his. I find it odd, somewhat, that Moore has such a carefree attitude toward film adaptations of his stuff (he doesn't "hate" it, as he's never watched them; he takes a "it didn't ruin the book, the book is still right here" approach with them. Yet with things like this, he's vocally protective of, even though it's essentially the same concept. The original still exists and has to stand on its own, whether or not there are one, a thousand or no sequels or spin-offs.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 5, 2017 3:54:10 GMT -5
I just picked up Steven T. Seagle's It's a Bird... from 2004, and it is a fascinating take on the significance of superheroes and the comic book medium. It is very much the spiritual precursor to Paul Dini's Dark Night: A True Batman Story. Teddy Kristiansen's art makes Superman feel timeless, whereas Seagle's prose about what Superman ultimately means to the world is an excellent complement to the kinds of Superman takes one finds in Grant Morrison's books, especially All-Star Superman. I've had this book for ages and another go to for whe. I want people to know why I love Superman as a character so much along with All Star Superman. Really fascinating
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 11:04:25 GMT -5
this is a great page. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Wow, as much as I rather dislike the artwork on this book (a big factor in me not buying this), that writing is fantastic. {Spoiler}The dual punch to Rich's gut that (a) these kids who know nothing about the Annihilation wave have all been Avengers since he died and quit the team over (essentially) petty squabbles, and (b) the Annihilation & Pals cosmic odyssey moreorless meant nothing because, amongst other vital things, the Avengers apparently never let a lot of people know it was a thing that almost destroyed the universe.
It seems sorta damning of Marvel Universe events as a whole, which...pleases me (because I quite LOVED ANNIHILATION and its associated cosmic sagas, and still do)
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 5, 2017 11:05:29 GMT -5
Apparently the upcoming PS4 Spider-Man game will feature a married Peter Parker with a young daughter who becomes a target of the Green Goblin. It does not specifically mention if the daughter is Mayday or Annie, or if the wife and mother is MJ or Gwen. Also, this came from IMDB (and the synopsis was swiftly removed), so take this with a grain of salt www.comicsbeat.com/did-imdb-leak-details-from-spider-mans-ps4-exclusive-game/
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Post by Legion on Jan 5, 2017 13:50:54 GMT -5
this is a great page. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Wow, as much as I rather dislike the artwork on this book (a big factor in me not buying this), that writing is fantastic. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The dual punch to Rich's gut that (a) these kids who know nothing about the Annihilation wave have all been Avengers since he died and quit the team over (essentially) petty squabbles, and (b) the Annihilation & Pals cosmic odyssey moreorless meant nothing because, amongst other vital things, the Avengers apparently never let a lot of people know it was a thing that almost destroyed the universe.
It seems sorta damning of Marvel Universe events as a whole, which...pleases me (because I quite LOVED ANNIHILATION and its associated cosmic sagas, and still do) Go and buy it anyway, fugly art or no. The Nova Corp needs you!
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 5, 2017 16:50:46 GMT -5
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 5, 2017 17:31:58 GMT -5
I don't really agree with Moore's rather naïve and at times hypocritical take on creators rights, but when he's saying "the story is told, there is no more story left to tell, stop trying to write more or making me write more", it seems pretty definitive that you're kinda disregarding the spirit in which the story was written in in the first place and just plain looking for a cash grab. The issue I have with that statement or way of thought is that it completely contradicts just about every major work Moore has created, in that so much of his output has been revivals of older properties that by their own virtues had no more story left to tell. Revived Marvelman, deconstructed Swamp Thing, delved into a huge amount of Superman mythology in Whatever Happened to the Man From Tomorrow?, used a 1950s Joker appearance as a starting point for Killing Joke, and rebooted Supreme into his version of 1960s Superman. And between two series, managed to create sequels to Stoker's Dracula, Haggard's Quatermain, Wells' Invisible Man AND War of the Worlds, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Jekyll & Hyde, 20,000 Leagues, Fu Manchu, Sherlock Holmes, Wizard of Oz and about 893 more. The biggest reason I have just a little issue with it is that when Moore first created Watchmen, those were the old Charlton characters (Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, etc) he was about to dig up and do this to. The only reason that was changed is because DC backed out of letting him use the characters as they had decided to utilize them in the DCU proper. Almost every toy he plays with isn't his. I find it odd, somewhat, that Moore has such a carefree attitude toward film adaptations of his stuff (he doesn't "hate" it, as he's never watched them; he takes a "it didn't ruin the book, the book is still right here" approach with them. Yet with things like this, he's vocally protective of, even though it's essentially the same concept. The original still exists and has to stand on its own, whether or not there are one, a thousand or no sequels or spin-offs. The thing about your argument though is that, as far as I know, none of the creators for the franchises you mentioned ever said "the story is told, there are no more left". Heck, most of them had many sequels by the original authors or were created to be serialized or continued in some fashion. If guys like Geoff Johns have all this reverence and respect for The Watchmen as they say they do, they should have the same reverence and respect for its author and his opinions on a continuation of it as well. Now if Moore magically got the rights to Watchmen back and suddenly started cranking out stories of his own, then you'd have a better point.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 5, 2017 22:42:01 GMT -5
The issue I have with that statement or way of thought is that it completely contradicts just about every major work Moore has created, in that so much of his output has been revivals of older properties that by their own virtues had no more story left to tell. Revived Marvelman, deconstructed Swamp Thing, delved into a huge amount of Superman mythology in Whatever Happened to the Man From Tomorrow?, used a 1950s Joker appearance as a starting point for Killing Joke, and rebooted Supreme into his version of 1960s Superman. And between two series, managed to create sequels to Stoker's Dracula, Haggard's Quatermain, Wells' Invisible Man AND War of the Worlds, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Jekyll & Hyde, 20,000 Leagues, Fu Manchu, Sherlock Holmes, Wizard of Oz and about 893 more. The biggest reason I have just a little issue with it is that when Moore first created Watchmen, those were the old Charlton characters (Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, etc) he was about to dig up and do this to. The only reason that was changed is because DC backed out of letting him use the characters as they had decided to utilize them in the DCU proper. Almost every toy he plays with isn't his. I find it odd, somewhat, that Moore has such a carefree attitude toward film adaptations of his stuff (he doesn't "hate" it, as he's never watched them; he takes a "it didn't ruin the book, the book is still right here" approach with them. Yet with things like this, he's vocally protective of, even though it's essentially the same concept. The original still exists and has to stand on its own, whether or not there are one, a thousand or no sequels or spin-offs. The thing about your argument though is that, as far as I know, none of the creators for the franchises you mentioned ever said "the story is told, there are no more left". Heck, most of them had many sequels by the original authors or were created to be serialized or continued in some fashion. If guys like Geoff Johns have all this reverence and respect for The Watchmen as they say they do, they should have the same reverence and respect for its author and his opinions on a continuation of it as well. Now if Moore magically got the rights to Watchmen back and suddenly started cranking out stories of his own, then you'd have a better point. Okay, now, let me ask you this: Why are we making this exception for Moore? No DC or Marvel writer before or since Moore has done a company-owned project and then said "Okay, you can't do anything else with this ever ever again. No sequels, no merchandise, nada." Well, I shouldn't say merchandise, since his stance on that is because DC dicked him out of money for some early stuff they made, not from any sort of artistic viewpoint. Either way, I can't think of another example, ever. Sure, lots of them show annoyance at later stories bastardizing ones that were personal to them. But they know the system they chose to work within, it is what it is. As much as Moore has a point to a lot of grievances with DC, this one is reaching. He just doesn't get to make that call. And I have to ask again, had he done the Watchmen, as originally intended with the Charlton cast, and it was (or even wasn't) the groundbreaking piece it's known as, would he still have said "story's done, no more."?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 22:53:27 GMT -5
U.S. Avengers is out, in case anyone wants to read a G.I. Joe knock off but with D and F list Avengers.
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Jan 6, 2017 0:40:20 GMT -5
U.S. Avengers is out, in case anyone wants to read a G.I. Joe knock off but with D and F list Avengers. I don't remember GI Joe having anything near as awesome as a Hulk with a Mustache.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jan 6, 2017 5:07:39 GMT -5
An interesting side to Annie's spider-sense is shown in the official preview of Renew Your Vows#3, seems she shares the same kind of future flashes Kaine used to have (as Peter and MJ only wound up being chained up trying to rescue Annie, when she has yet to arrive here) www.cbr.com/amazing-spider-man-renew-your-vows-3-3/
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