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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 0:33:00 GMT -5
Yeah eff the haters, the same people who want tna to die because of what they do to the wrestlers and production crew, ec3 clearly belongs in tna. Have fun working at the flea markets next year. In fairness I think the notion that a guy who works at TNA doesn't want TNA to fold is not completely useless. I really think this whole deal is more complicated than some of us are willing to admit, the company blows and deserve what they get but doesn't discount the fact that TNA's collapse might be bad news for some. Yeah, I seriously doubt everyone is behind on pay and for some it is probably just accepted "they say they'll pay on the 5th but it'll be more like the 15th" not that it's great but it is more and better than they get in the Indies for some. On top of that for all they are mocked, they either love that company or love wrestling so to hear and see the company mocked and/or people mocking them for going out and busting their ass because for something they love, it stings. It is easy for us to sit here and question these guys putting themselves through what they do when we realistically have zero attachment to it, maybe we put some money on the PPV or have fun discussing it but we don't depend on it. TNA folds we'll go to ROH or NJPW or AAA or RevPro or Chikara or Progress or NXT or PWG or LU or CMLL or whatever the next company is, a lot of these guys and gals, TNA might be their last rodeo. They don't have a guarantee that they will be picked up by someone, that whatever they are offered will pay the bills or that they will be used in a way to make things worth sticking around. It makes me think back to Tyrus wearing a shirt mocking the internet fan. First saw it and rolled my eyes but thinking about it, how would you handle being told by hundreds if not thousands how dumb you are for doing something you love constantly, then see them celebrate your place of business and mock you for showing up to do that thing? Something that not only do you love but you know they love to? I'm not saying what they are doing is the best course of action but sometimes they deserve better from not just the companies that work for but us fans as well. |
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Post by Rave on Oct 3, 2016 1:40:44 GMT -5
In fairness I think the notion that a guy who works at TNA doesn't want TNA to fold is not completely useless. I really think this whole deal is more complicated than some of us are willing to admit, the company blows and deserve what they get but doesn't discount the fact that TNA's collapse might be bad news for some. How can the collapse of a place that lies to them and owes them money is a bad thing? TNA will never pay them what they're worth and will never take care of them. Even when his company was in the shithole, Vince didn't hid the reality from the roster, he actually admitted that what he was doing wasn't working anymore. He also told the truth about not being able to pay as much when the company was hurting. Dixie Carter lies to her roster, pays them late and in some cases just neglects to pay the production people. I wish I could like this post more than once. It sums up my reasons regarding wanting TNA to die. It should be stated again: Dixie lies to her roster. Not only that, but she also lies to broadcast and overseas partners. Look no further than Russo being secretly employed for that. She acts like a petulant child when things aren't going her way, like that bullshit with the DVR numbers and the email fiasco. The most damning thing against her, however, is that she utterly fails to take care of those she employs. Something happen to them on her watch, like with Jesse Sorensen? Tough shit, they get thrown back in that figurative toy box to fend for themselves while she gets out her next shiny new toy. She's not the caring motherly type that everyone tries to portray her to be, she's just a delusional cow and a user who doesn't give a shit about anyone other than herself. IMO, that's why TNA, under its current regime, needs to die. To get that delusional cow and her inept toadies like Ryder and Gaburick out of the wrestling business for good. It's horrible that people who don't deserve this will be out of a job in the process, but hopefully they'll go somewhere they'll be appreciated and paid well for what they do. They deserve it for putting up with so much shit. If TNA was sold to someone who could run it well enough, kick the incompetents out and actually take care of the people out there busting their asses to keep it going, it would be a different thing. I'd honestly love for it to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 5:39:27 GMT -5
In fairness I think the notion that a guy who works at TNA doesn't want TNA to fold is not completely useless. I really think this whole deal is more complicated than some of us are willing to admit, the company blows and deserve what they get but doesn't discount the fact that TNA's collapse might be bad news for some. How can the collapse of a place that lies to them and owes them money is a bad thing? TNA will never pay them what they're worth and will never take care of them. Even when his company was in the shithole, Vince didn't hid the reality from the roster, he actually admitted that what he was doing wasn't working anymore. He also told the truth about not being able to pay as much when the company was hurting. Dixie Carter lies to her roster, pays them late and in some cases just neglects to pay the production people. Because maybe we don't know everything? I doubt it's as simple as "Christopher Daniels had a bad time there so surely everyone working there is hoping it's dead." I doubt even Christopher Daniels is crossing his fingers and hoping it dies. As someone familiar with the feeling of working somewhere that sucks and not confident in the other options in this particular field I can understand why even if someone working there might hate it, would probably rather have that job than not. If EC3 is sticking his neck out and speaking up for TNA, I have to believe his experience is different there to how the internet would have us believe, and to respond to that with "good luck working for peanuts when it's all over" doesn't make us sound like the good guys. I'm not saying anyone who wants TNA to die needs to change their opinion, like I said, I agree that TNA deserve it, but I'm not gonna pretend like I know better than those who actually work there that the company's demise is good for them. If your investment in TNA's fold is for the betterment of their employees and then when an employee says he doesn't want it to go, then your response is "f*** you, it's happening" it sounds more like bloodlust than actual concern. |
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Post by Talent Name on Oct 3, 2016 6:38:29 GMT -5
TNA has kicked out of so many finishers Kurt Angle is proud
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 3, 2016 8:15:18 GMT -5
How can the collapse of a place that lies to them and owes them money is a bad thing? TNA will never pay them what they're worth and will never take care of them. Even when his company was in the shithole, Vince didn't hid the reality from the roster, he actually admitted that what he was doing wasn't working anymore. He also told the truth about not being able to pay as much when the company was hurting. Dixie Carter lies to her roster, pays them late and in some cases just neglects to pay the production people. Because maybe we don't know everything? I doubt it's as simple as "Christopher Daniels had a bad time there so surely everyone working there is hoping it's dead." I doubt even Christopher Daniels is crossing his fingers and hoping it dies. As someone familiar with the feeling of working somewhere that sucks and not confident in the other options in this particular field I can understand why even if someone working there might hate it, would probably rather have that job than not. If EC3 is sticking his neck out and speaking up for TNA, I have to believe his experience is different there to how the internet would have us believe, and to respond to that with "good luck working for peanuts when it's all over" doesn't make us sound like the good guys. I'm not saying anyone who wants TNA to die needs to change their opinion, like I said, I agree that TNA deserve it, but I'm not gonna pretend like I know better than those who actually work there that the company's demise is good for them. If your investment in TNA's fold is for the betterment of their employees and then when an employee says he doesn't want it to go, then your response is "f*** you, it's happening" it sounds more like bloodlust than actual concern. It's not just that Daniels had a bad time there. It's that EVERYONE who left had a bad time there. Every single person that leaves tna buries the company and talked about the unprofessionallism and the late paychecks and how shitty Dixie is as a boss. |
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Post by chrom on Oct 3, 2016 8:15:36 GMT -5
IF it does go out of business they most assuredely wouldn't get what they are owed... but there's a good chance of that not happening anyway so that's a toss up. I also think EC3 knows that WWE won't take him, especially not with whatever he's on. Horse Steroids and that shit Barry Bonds used to make his head grow 2x bigger. I've heard he's upgraded to Elephant steroids |
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 3, 2016 8:28:52 GMT -5
Still no news?
If it was WWE, I assume we would know by now.
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Post by jagilki on Oct 3, 2016 8:54:15 GMT -5
If WWE REALLY wanted to purchase TNA this is the offer they should put on the table.
$25.00 AND Dixie gets a show on The Network.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 3, 2016 8:55:40 GMT -5
If WWE REALLY wanted to purchase TNA this is the offer they should put on the table. $25.00 AND Dixie gets a show on The Network. Do you really want Dixie on the network ? Tho having all her former talent walk by her like Aries did Jarrett would be funny. |
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 3, 2016 8:55:50 GMT -5
TNA has kicked out of so many finishers Kurt Angle is proud did TNA really kick out? Or are we confused in thinking it still has life because the corpse just shit it's pants. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 3, 2016 8:56:09 GMT -5
Still no news? If it was WWE, I assume we would know by now. Corgan probably fronted them the bread to save their ass again. |
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Post by wwotbh on Oct 3, 2016 8:56:58 GMT -5
I really wonder how Dixie secured the funding. Wouldn't put it past her to have hooked up with yet another shady creditor, putting the company further into debt so she can hold onto some kind of imagined glory.
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Post by Tessmachers-Ass-Fan on Oct 3, 2016 9:34:00 GMT -5
If WWE REALLY wanted to purchase TNA this is the offer they should put on the table. $25.00 AND Dixie gets a show on The Network. Not 9.99? |
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Post by héad.casé on Oct 3, 2016 9:35:03 GMT -5
Just found this tidbit of info....
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 3, 2016 9:43:04 GMT -5
What a f***ing scumbag.
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Post by J Lee O'Brien on Oct 3, 2016 9:46:32 GMT -5
The fool's check cleared, so everything is just fine and any one who says otherwise is just a hater. Sug. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 3, 2016 9:48:59 GMT -5
That's why tna will always be wrestling biggest embarrassment. Probably the guys were desperate for information, and here comes this moron with her shit eating grin withholding information from them and spending all resources in wwe cast offs so they can be fed to them. That locker room needs a leader who will get answers. I can't believe the nerve on her. And her f***ing announcement was Christy Hemme and Awesome Kong (Reby Sky should sue them by the way) and Taryn Terrel? Imagine how the roster felt about that. f*** Dixie and f*** tna. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 3, 2016 9:52:56 GMT -5
And people wonder why so many want TNA out of business. Because as long as the company is alive, Dixie Carter benefits from it. You got people who don't have any idea of what the future holds. Don't know when they will get paid. Defend TNA even though it makes them look stupid. Yet this silly trick cannot tell her troops the fate of TNA. She don't care because she still got millions in her personal account. Her ego is too prideful & arrogant to even admit defeat or regret. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 3, 2016 10:02:55 GMT -5
In fairness I think the notion that a guy who works at TNA doesn't want TNA to fold is not completely useless. I really think this whole deal is more complicated than some of us are willing to admit, the company blows and deserve what they get but doesn't discount the fact that TNA's collapse might be bad news for some. Yeah, I seriously doubt everyone is behind on pay and for some it is probably just accepted "they say they'll pay on the 5th but it'll be more like the 15th" not that it's great but it is more and better than they get in the Indies for some. On top of that for all they are mocked, they either love that company or love wrestling so to hear and see the company mocked and/or people mocking them for going out and busting their ass because for something they love, it stings. It is easy for us to sit here and question these guys putting themselves through what they do when we realistically have zero attachment to it, maybe we put some money on the PPV or have fun discussing it but we don't depend on it. TNA folds we'll go to ROH or NJPW or AAA or RevPro or Chikara or Progress or NXT or PWG or LU or CMLL or whatever the next company is, a lot of these guys and gals, TNA might be their last rodeo. They don't have a guarantee that they will be picked up by someone, that whatever they are offered will pay the bills or that they will be used in a way to make things worth sticking around. It makes me think back to Tyrus wearing a shirt mocking the internet fan. First saw it and rolled my eyes but thinking about it, how would you handle being told by hundreds if not thousands how dumb you are for doing something you love constantly, then see them celebrate your place of business and mock you for showing up to do that thing? Something that not only do you love but you know they love to? I'm not saying what they are doing is the best course of action but sometimes they deserve better from not just the companies that work for but us fans as well. I get where you're coming from, and honestly, it was a good speech by EC3. But TNA is kind of emblematic of something that drives me nuts about society in general, this idea that you can be a generally terrible person, and as long as you say "F the haters" and get people to drink your Kool-Ade, you're good. Its playing out on a national stage right now (which, of course, I can't go into details about, but you know). It's a mentality that personally drives me nuts, and Dixie seems to be a prime example of it. Every indication is that TNA is a prop for her, her ragged dream of being famous, and it's become tiring having to watch it as a guy who once thought TNA had a bright future. It's spoiled a lot of guys who I've defended after they left WWE, like EC3, like Tyrus. Hell, I used to think Josh was a decent talent until he got to TNA and became King Douchecanoe. That's another thing. Someone mentioned last night in the BFG thread about Aron Rex basically being exposed in TNA and all of his flaws coming to the forefront, which has killed all of the goodwill that he had when he was cut from WWE. The way that TNA works has brought out the worse in a lot of people who not only work for them, but who are still fans of them. Without TNA in play to poison the well, maybe a lot of those people will find a better path for themselves. I honestly think most of the roster will land on their feet. The ones that have to worry are the sychophants dping the booking, and I wouldn't have any problem if them, like Dixie, never darkened wrestling's doorstep again. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 3, 2016 10:03:29 GMT -5
And people wonder why so many want TNA out of business. Because as long as the company is alive, Dixie Carter benefits from it. You got people who don't have any idea of what the future holds. Don't know when they will get paid. Defend TNA even though it makes them look stupid. Yet this silly trick cannot tell her troops the fate of TNA. She don't care because she still got millions in her personal account. Her ego is too prideful & arrogant to even admit defeat or regret. If that is correct, Dixie can f** off real talk. What I said earlier has now happened |
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