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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 28, 2017 12:04:07 GMT -5
Harold was never shown to be what people would call... rational. See the strange case of the ice cream scene. Wasn't that down to the effects of resurrection though? It was mentioned that it causes them to become more and more f***ed up. He may have been murderous but up until deciding to frame Danny he wasn't shown to be an idiot. That plan seemed out of character. He was a manipulater more than anything. Doing something to talk Danny into giving up the company would have fit hIs character more. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 28, 2017 12:31:39 GMT -5
Also, dear god, you could make a drinking game for every time a character says "Killing is wrong!" in a situation where killing is absolutely the best option. Yeah, they do the same thing in this show with people saying "we need to call the police" and then Danny just handwaves away the situation with like "they wouldn't understand." It happens like 4 times throughout the show. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 28, 2017 21:48:44 GMT -5
Episode 5. Rosario Dawson cameo in lil gym shorts.
I really appreciated the cameo.
... and the lil shorts.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 29, 2017 19:33:25 GMT -5
Iron Fist's biggest problem is all the most interesting parts like K'un Lun are only covered by Danny talking about it.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 30, 2017 8:02:16 GMT -5
Iron Fist's biggest problem is all the most interesting parts like K'un Lun are only covered by Danny talking about it. I think that Iron Fist suffers from three problems: 1) Telling and not showing 2) The fight scenes for a martial arts show are pretty weak. 3) About 3 or 4 episodes too long. All the Marvel Netflix shows suffer from this. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 30, 2017 8:34:12 GMT -5
So what is the reason none of these shows can say 'Hulk' or 'Thor'?
It's always 'the big green guy' or something.
I'm sure there's some legal reason, but I don't know why one MCU character can't mention another one.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 30, 2017 11:52:09 GMT -5
Finished the series. It was very meh. Not bad, not great, just right in the middle and likely easily forgotten. 1 massive issue is that Danny Rand, both how the character is written and the acting, is just not very strong. Rand is a douche, and generally seems to come across as a petulant little child. And the actor just isn't strong enough to carry a series in my opinion.
The side characters were mostly better then Danny, but still not enough to get me really emotionally invested.
And one glaring issue is that, whether intentional or not, I really think the showrunners could've done more to make this feel different then the first season of Arrow. Waaaay too many parallels to Arrow in my opinion.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 9, 2017 10:45:09 GMT -5
Phew. This thing is a chore. It's not that way because it's bad in the sense of 'what an awful show!'; it's just so damned boring.
It's puzzling really that they nailed every other Netflix show in one way or another and just made this one so uninteresting.
There's Colleen Wing to catch your interest on occasion, and that's just it.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 9, 2017 11:51:38 GMT -5
I would've rather had a legal drama about Carrie Ann Moss' character than Iron Fist.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 9, 2017 13:55:39 GMT -5
I'm honestly wishing that they killed off Danny, and while he sacrifices himself, Colleen takes up the mantle and the power and just straight up have her be Iron Fist.
I'm normally a source material guy, but f*** it, it's been so boring, that'd make it interesting and she's been the best character anyway.
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Post by Andy Martin on Apr 9, 2017 21:09:31 GMT -5
This was worse than Luke Cage for me. I didn't think that would be possible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 11:38:08 GMT -5
Finally watched it. The reviews have been greatly exaggerated. It's nowhere near as compelling as Daredevil or Jessica Jones and even Luke Cage had moments when it was good it was f***ing good. But the show was pretty consistent and fun to binge watch through. Unlike Daredevil Season 2 where in the first 8 episodes it was a terrible bore until The Punisher shows up and doesn't become great until the last 5 episodes. Outside of Daredevil Season One and Jessica Jones being compelling throughout start to finish, I'm not sure how to rank the rest of the shows. Luke Cage started off strong but it fell apart halfway through, Daredevil Season 2 was a chore and then it finished really strong, Iron Fist never had the moment where you're thinking this is great but I was entertained all the way through.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2017 18:50:18 GMT -5
Nah, the reviews were spot on. I watched eight episodes and then just finally threw in the towel. Marvel's first swing and a miss since they started Marvel Studios. Hell, there was never even a moment it approached interesting, let alone good. Maybe Colleen's cage fight or the Drunken Master ripoff. But that's all.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Apr 21, 2017 20:52:56 GMT -5
Finished it last night. Starts out decent enough but, falls off a cliff in a hurry after episode 6.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 14, 2017 2:18:03 GMT -5
After getting hyped over the Defenders trailer I figured I would give this another chance. Tapped out at ten episodes.
One thing that did bother me is a question often asked about the Avengers' solo movies - did it never occur to Claire to pick up the phone and call Murdock? I know if I'd previously had a run-in with the Hand and personally knew a guy who was engaged in an ongoing war with them my first move is to get him onside.
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Post by Renslayer on May 14, 2017 13:44:47 GMT -5
After getting hyped over the Defenders trailer I figured I would give this another chance. Tapped out at ten episodes. One thing that did bother me is a question often asked about the Avengers' solo movies - did it never occur to Claire to pick up the phone and call Murdock? I know if I'd previously had a run-in with the Hand and personally knew a guy who was engaged in an ongoing war with them my first move is to get him onside. IIRC they had a bit of a falling out when they last spoke to each other in DD Season 2. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 14, 2017 21:16:58 GMT -5
After getting hyped over the Defenders trailer I figured I would give this another chance. Tapped out at ten episodes. One thing that did bother me is a question often asked about the Avengers' solo movies - did it never occur to Claire to pick up the phone and call Murdock? I know if I'd previously had a run-in with the Hand and personally knew a guy who was engaged in an ongoing war with them my first move is to get him onside. IIRC they had a bit of a falling out when they last spoke to each other in DD Season 2. True, but being in the path of a clan of ninjas who may or may not have undead members among them for a second time would make most rational people real forgiving. |
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Post by Evilution E5150 on May 14, 2017 21:45:49 GMT -5
IIRC they had a bit of a falling out when they last spoke to each other in DD Season 2. True, but being in the path of a clan of ninjas who may or may not have undead members among them for a second time would make most rational people real forgiving. Claire mentions she knows some one who could help multiple times, I assumed it was Matt but it could be Luke shes referring to. Either way i'm not watching that snoozefest again to find out |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 4, 2017 19:44:17 GMT -5
Sorry for resurrecting what is essentially a dead thread, but I just finally was able to finish off the show. I watched the first two episodes when they first hit, but my time just became a premium and I had to put it on the backburner until about 2 weeks ago. Just wanted to throw out my thoughts. And I think this has been out long enough that I'm not even gonna bother worrying about spoilers.
It wasn't nearly as bad as a lot of reviews made it out to be, but I didn't think it was all that good either. It was very hard to either like or sympathize with Danny at the beginning, mainly because he came off as so incredibly stupid. His relationship with Colleen seemed weird too. The actors had chemistry together, so I can at least give them that. It's more then I can say for couples like Peter and MJ in the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy or Clark and Lana on Smallville. But through the first couple of episodes Colleen (rightfully) dismisses him as an unstable idiot, then around episode five she suddenly loves him out of no where. It didn't feel organic at all.
The rotating Big Bad I think hurt the show most of all. For the first 2/3rds of the series Gao was top bad guy, and she worked well in the role. Then she got turfed in favor of Bakuto, who was ok in the role but lacked the build up to make him important. Then in the final episode he gets turfed in favor of Harold Meachum.
And I'm sorry, but a story like Iron Fist, who's mythology is totally steeped in old-school Kung Fu movies, the final confrontation should not be him battling gun toting hired thugs and a crazy corporate executive. He should be battling ninjas on rooftops, and honestly Daredevil should be the one battling gun-toting thugs. And why were the Hand using so many gun-toting thugs in this series? Nobu didn't seem to have any problems getting Zombie Ninjas to do his dirty work in Daredevil.
And why didn't Claire ever make an attempt to contact Daredevil during all of this? I know her and Matt didn't end on the best of terms, but the evil ninjas are back. Surely that has to take precedence over their feeling for each other?
I'm honestly amazed Ward survived through the season. He seemed to have dead meat written on him the second he came on screen the first time (especially with that haircut). And why in the blue hell would Joy even remotely entertain Davos' pitch at the end that everything that happened to her and her family was all Danny's fault? She knows that her family and corporation were being manipulated from behind the scenes by her crazy Father and the Hand for years. How can she even remotely blame Danny for that?
So yeah, the show was just very uneven to me. I thought the Bakuto episodes were the best, but the path to getting to them was really stupid at times, and as I said, Bakuto himself being the top villain just came out of no where. Both he and Davos should have shown up in the story a lot sooner. But then the finale just drops all of that in favor of wrapping up the Meachum family drama, which at that point felt like it was from a completely different show.
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Post by topdawg on Jul 4, 2017 23:59:21 GMT -5
I liked it ok. Ward was the best part of the show.
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