zappa
Trap-Jaw
Posts: 311 
|
Post by zappa on Nov 6, 2016 11:24:38 GMT -5
Obviously Hogan was the biggest star of the WWF in the 80's but who was number 2 Roddy Piper or Macho Man?
|
|
|
|
Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Nov 6, 2016 11:26:26 GMT -5
Piper, but only just, I think.
|
|
|
|
Post by lizzurd on Nov 6, 2016 11:38:53 GMT -5
They Live > Beef jerky commercials
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 12:05:23 GMT -5
As a needer of both beef & spice I voted for Savage.
|
|
|
|
Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Nov 6, 2016 12:45:08 GMT -5
Randy Savage had a longer run and multiple world titles in both companies.
|
|
|
|
Post by mauled on Nov 6, 2016 13:28:00 GMT -5
Randy Savage without question. Piper for a large part only came back ad hoc for a promo and a crappy DQ match, Savage had some of the greatest feuds and matches in Wrestling History.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 13:38:42 GMT -5
Tough call.
Thing about Savage was, whichever alignment he had, he changed with it. When he was a heel, he was the most psychotic bastard in the ring and you wanted someone to whip his ass. As a face, he sold the hell out of an injury and you rallied around him to tough it out.
Piper was, more or less, the same guy no matter what side he was on.
However, Piper was in more classic programs/angles over the years. Flair (a few times), Brisco, Valentine, Hogan (at least 3 times), Bret, I can keep going. Not that Randy wasn't, but Roddy's were just timeless.
I give the nod to Savage, really tough call. You can't go wrong with either.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hit Girl on Nov 6, 2016 13:50:47 GMT -5
Macho Man
|
|
SmashTV
Dennis Stamp
Big Money, Big Prizes, I Love It!
The Excellence of Allocation
Posts: 4,679
|
Post by SmashTV on Nov 6, 2016 16:09:22 GMT -5
I went with Savage, he was the mainstay during the Hogan years while Piper flitted in and out. He didn't make the films that Piper did, but probably had more mainstream/national exposure during his title reigns. Didn't he also do a 'Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous' in his Macho King guise?
|
|
|
|
Post by The Trashman on Nov 6, 2016 16:11:18 GMT -5
Savage but its pretty close.
|
|
|
|
Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 6, 2016 16:40:42 GMT -5
Piper was the more important star but Savage made it further into the mainstream.
|
|
mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
You're the lowest on the totem pole here, Alva. The lowest.
Posts: 23,475
|
Post by mizerable on Nov 6, 2016 22:04:45 GMT -5
They Live > Beef jerky commercials As much as I love They Live, it didn't reach nearly the audience that the Slim Jim commercials did. So while Piper did get more high profile work, I'd argue he didn't reach the same heights as Randy. On top of that, I'd say Randy had far more longevity as far as seeming mainstream. |
|
|
|
Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Nov 6, 2016 23:00:47 GMT -5
Entirety of the 80s? Its Savage easy.
But during that initial Mania/Rock n Wrestling era he was as important as anybody Hogan included.
|
|
|
|
Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 7, 2016 1:46:48 GMT -5
In the 80s Piper. Kicking Cyndi Lauper in the ribs and feuding with Mr T made him a house hold name. Headlined the first Mania and was the lead in a movie. Savage eclipsed him in the 90s and 2000s, with a lot memorable angles, the slim jim stuff and appearing in Spiderman
|
|
|
|
Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 7, 2016 7:33:24 GMT -5
Savage in the long run and it's not even close, you do a Savage impression and odds are someone will know who you're talking about, while Piper just isn't on that level in pop culture awareness terms. They Live is a cult classic, but cult classics tend to have a small but vocal fanbase who make the films they enjoy seem more popular than they really are.
Going by the 80s alone, I'll hand it to Savage too, the WWF's programming was built around him and Hogan, while Piper wasn't there as often, leaving to become an actor in 87 and later returning when that didn't pan out.
|
|
|
|
Post by willywonka666 on Nov 7, 2016 10:27:13 GMT -5
Piper.If I think of Hogan, I immediately think of Piper-he was his biggest rival, Roddy was Lex Luthor to Hogan's Superman, and for that of course being involved in the first real boom period of the modern era. Not to take anything away from Savage, but I give this to Piper all the way. He got me into wrestling, nobody could be a bad guy like Roddy
|
|
|
|
Post by corndog on Nov 7, 2016 10:44:24 GMT -5
Entirety of the 80s? Its Savage easy. But during that initial Mania/Rock n Wrestling era he was as important as anybody Hogan included. That is what I was going say, Piper from 84-86 was definitely the 2nd biggest star in WWF and very important to it's rise. But 87 on, Savage was the bigger star and draw. |
|
auph10imitated
Dennis Stamp
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 4,951
|
Post by auph10imitated on Nov 7, 2016 11:56:15 GMT -5
Randy Savage for sure, but tough call.
|
|
|
|
Post by Nickybojelais on Nov 7, 2016 13:22:21 GMT -5
Randy Savage by about 45 million light years!
Maybe if I saw more of his early career I'd have better memories of Roddy Piper. But aside from his dog-collar match against Valentine and his Mania 8 match with Bret, I can't recall too many good Roddy Piper matches.
In fact Piper is probably one of the most over-rated performers in my opinion.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 13:31:57 GMT -5
Gotta go with Savage, based solely on their wrestling work. Although outside wrestling, thanks to pop culture and movies and such, Piper was probably more recognizable as a bigger star.
As time went on, though, I'd say the 2 were neck in neck outside wrestling, and even then it was Savage's wrestling character that made him more famous away from the ring.
|
|
