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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 6, 2016 8:48:57 GMT -5
Was just thinking about how big WWE is compared to their status in the mid 1990s. It got me thinking that since even then they were the biggest wrestling company in the world, if they failed wrestling would be so much smaller today most likely.
So, what are some entertainment forms that didn't have a resurgence like the Monday Night Wars and instead simply died out? Or at least fell so considerably in status that they may as well be considered dead in comparison to their past glory.
I'm thinking ventriloquism has to count. Not dead by any means, but it's been HUGE at some points. Heck, in the golden age of radio for a time the top show was even a ventriloquist show. You read that right.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 6, 2016 9:53:13 GMT -5
Was just thinking about how big WWE is compared to their status in the mid 1990s. It got me thinking that since even then they were the biggest wrestling company in the world, if they failed wrestling would be so much smaller today most likely. So, what are some entertainment forms that didn't have a resurgence like the Monday Night Wars and instead simply died out? Or at least fell so considerably in status that they may as well be considered dead in comparison to their past glory. I'm thinking ventriloquism has to count. Not dead by any means, but it's been HUGE at some points. Heck, in the golden age of radio for a time the top show was even a ventriloquist show. You read that right. Luckily ventriloquism has been kept alive by the delightful comedic stylings of Jeff Dunham, moderately enjoyed (or at least watched when nothing else is on) by people's parents everywhere. I've never been able to wrap my mind around a ventriloquist radio show, but I guess they probably had a live audience. Really that whole genre of radio show is dead and buried. Radio dramas too, at least as a mainstream format. There will always be enthusiasts for that format, especially since home computers and podcasts make it easy for anyone to put one together. I did a dramatic version of The Cask of Amontillado for a college radio production course. Also gone are straight up variety shows both on radio and TV. That niche has been filled by competition performance shows, I think.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Dec 6, 2016 10:00:21 GMT -5
Was just thinking about how big WWE is compared to their status in the mid 1990s. It got me thinking that since even then they were the biggest wrestling company in the world, if they failed wrestling would be so much smaller today most likely. So, what are some entertainment forms that didn't have a resurgence like the Monday Night Wars and instead simply died out? Or at least fell so considerably in status that they may as well be considered dead in comparison to their past glory. I'm thinking ventriloquism has to count. Not dead by any means, but it's been HUGE at some points. Heck, in the golden age of radio for a time the top show was even a ventriloquist show. You read that right. Luckily ventriloquism has been kept alive by the delightful comedic stylings of Jeff Dunham, moderately enjoyed (or at least watched when nothing else is on) by people's parents everywhere. Otto and George was another act that was around for years prior to Otto's passing a couple years ago
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 6, 2016 10:05:02 GMT -5
Was just thinking about how big WWE is compared to their status in the mid 1990s. It got me thinking that since even then they were the biggest wrestling company in the world, if they failed wrestling would be so much smaller today most likely. So, what are some entertainment forms that didn't have a resurgence like the Monday Night Wars and instead simply died out? Or at least fell so considerably in status that they may as well be considered dead in comparison to their past glory. I'm thinking ventriloquism has to count. Not dead by any means, but it's been HUGE at some points. Heck, in the golden age of radio for a time the top show was even a ventriloquist show. You read that right. Well you know once Wally P Doyle was murdered and the East Coast West Coast ventriloquist war started there was no coming back.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 6, 2016 10:06:18 GMT -5
Was just thinking about how big WWE is compared to their status in the mid 1990s. It got me thinking that since even then they were the biggest wrestling company in the world, if they failed wrestling would be so much smaller today most likely. So, what are some entertainment forms that didn't have a resurgence like the Monday Night Wars and instead simply died out? Or at least fell so considerably in status that they may as well be considered dead in comparison to their past glory. I'm thinking ventriloquism has to count. Not dead by any means, but it's been HUGE at some points. Heck, in the golden age of radio for a time the top show was even a ventriloquist show. You read that right. Well you know once Wally P Doyle was murdered and the East Coast West Coast ventriloquist war started there was no coming back. It's a shame that Pickels and the rest of the Dummies couldn't work anything out.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 6, 2016 10:07:37 GMT -5
Well you know once Wally P Doyle was murdered and the East Coast West Coast ventriloquist war started there was no coming back. It's a shame that Pickels and the rest of the Dummies couldn't work anything out. "We just want to entertain the people! It's up to the little guys to work it out."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 10:16:49 GMT -5
Video game arcades. They've sorta lived on, as part of bigger & more diverse entertainment locales like Dave & Busters, but all the little ones in malls I frequented & knew of as a kid died in the '90s with the advent of Nintendo/Sega Genesis, and were dead by Playstation/Xbox. I was at my local mall this weekend, walking by the usual empty store fronts, old arcade facade that's still up 15-20 yrs after it closed, and the near-empty-since-2001 food court, and actually saw a newer arcade. Much smaller, in an old Hot Topic, but it exists. No one in it. During a December/Christmastime weekend.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 6, 2016 11:47:55 GMT -5
Same Room Videogame Multiplayer.
Nintendo seems to be the only company left that caters to 3 or 4 people sitting on a couch and screaming horrible things at eachother as they meet their violent ends.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 6, 2016 15:17:38 GMT -5
You know what's dead? Vaudeville. You know what killed it? The talkie pictures. But you can still make it, kid, you just gotta have a gimmick. I for one am a tumbler. See?
Play me off, Johnny!
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 6, 2016 15:23:59 GMT -5
Definitely arcades. Spent many hours there as a kid. Including falling arse over tit while playing Super Hang-On.
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Post by karl100589 on Dec 6, 2016 15:26:28 GMT -5
Celebrity Stuntmen (ie Evel Knievel) and Televised Poker are the two that come to mind.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 6, 2016 15:34:00 GMT -5
Do people still play board games? I had shitloads of them.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 6, 2016 15:35:26 GMT -5
Yes, board games are still a pretty big business.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 6, 2016 15:37:18 GMT -5
Do people still play board games? I had shitloads of them. I don't know if kids do as much, but there is definitely a healthy market for adult enthusiasts. Settlers of Catan is a great gateway drug for that.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 6, 2016 15:38:09 GMT -5
You know what's dead? Vaudeville. You know what killed it? The talkie pictures. But you can still make it, kid, you just gotta have a gimmick. I for one am a tumbler. See? Play me off, Johnny! It died when they got called to the main roster.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 6, 2016 15:38:09 GMT -5
Do people still play board games? I had shitloads of them. I don't know if kids do as much, but there is definitely a healthy market for adult enthusiasts. Settlers of Catan is a great gateway drug for that. and I mean Kickstarter is like half board games
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:46:11 GMT -5
You know what's dead? Vaudeville. You know what killed it? The talkie pictures. But you can still make it, kid, you just gotta have a gimmick. I for one am a tumbler. See? Play me off, Johnny! Didn't you hear the word? Johnny's in hell now. He liked little boys. Also, bird. The bird is the word.
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Post by taker1990 on Dec 6, 2016 15:57:07 GMT -5
Drive in movies
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 6, 2016 16:02:42 GMT -5
Spirograph
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Post by Gopher Mod on Dec 6, 2016 16:03:35 GMT -5
Do people still play board games? I had shitloads of them. I don't know if kids do as much, but there is definitely a healthy market for adult enthusiasts. Settlers of Catan is a great gateway drug for that. Considering that Walmart now carries several of the "gateway games" (Settlers of Catan, Munchkin, and Pandemic amongst others), board games are still doing really well. As for Kamalarambo's post at the top, ventriloquism is somewhat of a dying art- I only know of two famous ones. Those would be Jeff Dunham (who's been doing it for 25+ years) and Terry Fator.
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