hassanchop
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 2, 2017 11:29:22 GMT -5
I guess this confirms that nobody had any good ideas when it came to WCW/the Invasion. We could debate what the very biggest was, but surely the Invasion has to be one of the biggest missed opportunities in wrestling history. The way to handle it was so simple though: wait till the big stars of WCW were available before doing anything. The big stars started coming in just after the Invasion had ended. First Flair in September. Then the nWo in 2002. Then Bischoff. Then Steiner. You wait a year and a World of possibilities are in front of you. If they couldn't, they should've made the stars they got into "stars". Put effort into to milking out the big ones they did get at the time(Booker T, DDP, Kidman, Buff Bagwell, Kronik), and put more effort in making the others a big deal to make up for the lack of the other main event guys with big contracts. How hard could it have been to make Kanyon, Storm and Palumbo into a big deal? |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 2, 2017 12:52:47 GMT -5
The way to handle it was so simple though: wait till the big stars of WCW were available before doing anything. The big stars started coming in just after the Invasion had ended. First Flair in September. Then the nWo in 2002. Then Bischoff. Then Steiner. You wait a year and a World of possibilities are in front of you. If they couldn't, they should've made the stars they got into "stars". Put effort into to milking out the big ones they did get at the time(Booker T, DDP, Kidman, Buff Bagwell, Kronik), and put more effort in making the others a big deal to make up for the lack of the other main event guys with big contracts. How hard could it have been to make Kanyon, Storm and Palumbo into a big deal? Storm is a great example. In WCW he was over, he was a heel, and even had a brief main event run. WWE had no idea what to do with him. Yes, even latter day WCW did a better job with him. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 2, 2017 12:55:13 GMT -5
Said it time and time again, if they couldn't/wouldn't get the big stars from WCW, they should have either delayed the invasion for a year, or just incorporate whatever WCW talents they wanted during 2001 as hot free agents who could then be gradually introduced.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jan 2, 2017 13:29:13 GMT -5
Yeah, they didn't need to rush the Invasion. Hell, they should have kept it as a sword hanging over the WWF, teased every month or so by ominous Shane McMahon sightings (perhaps flanked by the genuine WCW stars they had at the time). Just let it be known that WCW was coming for the WWF, and it'd be the shit storm of the century when they got there.
However, we forget that they were fully intent on launching the brand split following WrestleMania 18. Buying WCW gave them the idea in the first place! Then when Triple H got injured they panicked and went with the Invasion storyline, ruining the WCW brand in as little as two weeks. Yeah, it's revisionist history to say WCW was already a damaged brand. It was, but there was genuine excitement among the WWF fanbase for it. Before Tacoma, WCW and the promise of the Invasion was getting huge cheers. They were the faces!
The McMahons locked themselves in for failure in every capacity with this thing. It's remarkable how it was the perfect storm of bad ideas, hubris, and ego. Ironically, we already know that WCW could have handled the storyline better. They did with the early days of the nWo.
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Post by joeiscool on Jan 2, 2017 15:40:59 GMT -5
ECW, for as much as I enjoyed it, was/is/always be a NE regional promotion that caught fire that couldn't draw a dime today. But...it did draw relatively recently. First on PPV, then back on TV(for a while). It was no one match on RAW, but it's still fact. Actually, the way CZW and ROH both went out of business 100% proves your point. Nobody today wants stiff/athletic/hardcore matches backed by good storylines. I would say ECW if you watch it now, is probably the worse of the big 3. The stories make little sense or are too over the top. The wrestling is largely bad with 40% being pretty decent. End of day ecw was only good because it was trying something new. By 1998 WWF was doing ecw better than ecw was doing ecw. |
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