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Post by xCompackx on Dec 29, 2016 23:39:26 GMT -5
I'm kind of on an Attitude Era Raw kick lately and it constantly amazes me to see the kinds of crowds they had back then. A raucous sea of signs, cheering, and (as shocking as it feels to say this) fans actually caring about the product. Slightly depressing to see how much wrestling has changed.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 29, 2016 23:41:18 GMT -5
When you care about your product, so do the fans. Funny how that works.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 29, 2016 23:43:04 GMT -5
I miss those crowds too. Of course this was when the product was actually exciting, Vince didn't insult or intentionally ignore the fans, and because of that they were heavily into the storylines and the characters. It truly is a shame just how times have changed and how dead the audience tends to be.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Dec 30, 2016 0:45:27 GMT -5
I watched religiously during the Attitude Era, I was in my early 20's, and the crowds really did make even the shittiest of shit of the era feel amazing.
We tend to look at the era through the most rose colored glasses possible....it's a lot like the EARLY seasons of SNL - you just assume everything in that time was a classic sketch with that cast but for every classic 'Samurai Delicatessen' or Blues Brothers there were 5 steaming pieces of shit. A lot like the Attitude Era. You sometimes had to sit through some REAL bullshit to get to the really great stuff. BUT those crowd made that shit seem like the hottest angles around. THEN they came really unglued when, for example, the glass shattered....
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Dec 30, 2016 4:42:59 GMT -5
When you care about your product, so do the fans. Funny how that works. I'm still not sure if they really cared much more than today, or if they just were really lucky.
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Post by Woo on Dec 30, 2016 5:47:51 GMT -5
Also everybody had a catchphrase which the fans always love. I don't know why the stopped doing catchphrases in the mid 00's but it really hurt the product imo as silly as it sounds. Whenever they do one "I'm afraid I have some bad news!" "I'm the Miz and I'm awesome!" "Yes yes yes" they always pump the fans. Heck Road Dogg, the Rock and Enzore Amore made whole careers out of catchphrases.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 30, 2016 8:25:18 GMT -5
When you care about your product, so do the fans. Funny how that works. I'm still not sure if they really cared much more than today, or if they just were really lucky. I think they did, even when they were winning, there was the "have to beat Ted Turner" mindset so they had to pull out all the stops.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 30, 2016 8:40:57 GMT -5
I'm still not sure if they really cared much more than today, or if they just were really lucky. I think they did, even when they were winning, there was the "have to beat Ted Turner" mindset so they had to pull out all the stops. Which caused the problems plaguing current WWE. The Monday Night Wars was a very exciting time as a wrestling fan but it scorched the earth in the process.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Dec 30, 2016 17:53:52 GMT -5
Did anyone attend any shows in The Attitude Era? I can't imagine being able to see because of all the signs.
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Post by Hickster on Dec 30, 2016 18:50:19 GMT -5
Did anyone attend any shows in The Attitude Era? I can't imagine being able to see because of all the signs. Sure did, and it got heated on more than one occasion.
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Post by thetower52 on Dec 30, 2016 19:36:01 GMT -5
Did anyone attend any shows in The Attitude Era? I can't imagine being able to see because of all the signs. Depends on when you consider the attitude era over. I saw the infamous buff bagwell booker T match on raw did that count as attitude era ?
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Post by arrogantmodel on Dec 30, 2016 19:57:40 GMT -5
Me and my buddies went to a Raw in 2000, so yeah...we were 17 and the target audience, so we had a blast.
And the Civic Arena exploded louder than anything I've ever heard when there was a brief lull in the show and then...
"IF YA SMELLLLLLL..." hit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 20:08:52 GMT -5
Did anyone attend any shows in The Attitude Era? I can't imagine being able to see because of all the signs. I went to so many shows back then what was amazing was it didn't matter if it was a tv/ppv or house show there was signs everywhere and I never remember having trouble seeing the action.Plus tons of hot chicks were going to those shows and flashing their boobs I saw so many boobs.I used to go to shows with my dad who hated wrestling since I was a small lad the attitude era was the only time he didn't mind going to the shows.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 30, 2016 20:09:27 GMT -5
Why do you think we have such rabid crowds the Raw after Mania? It's cause people knows the WWE are gonna do multiple surprises and they are gonna do crazy shit.
During the MNW, it was like this every single week. I wonder how could these writers maintain their sanity.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 30, 2016 22:36:03 GMT -5
I think they did, even when they were winning, there was the "have to beat Ted Turner" mindset so they had to pull out all the stops. Which caused the problems plaguing current WWE. The Monday Night Wars was a very exciting time as a wrestling fan but it scorched the earth in the process. But how so? I'd like to think as an owner/promoter you'd still want to put on the best show possible and still maintain your fanbase. Just because there's no legitimate alternative as far as wrestling promotions is concerned doesn't mean one should intentionally put on trash either.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 30, 2016 22:49:02 GMT -5
Which caused the problems plaguing current WWE. The Monday Night Wars was a very exciting time as a wrestling fan but it scorched the earth in the process. But how so? I'd like to think as an owner/promoter you'd still want to put on the best show possible and still maintain your fanbase. Just because there's no legitimate alternative as far as wrestling promotions is concerned doesn't mean one should intentionally put on trash either. They gave away money matches on a weekly basis in the pursuit for Nielsen ratings. People nowadays still expect the same thing but then complain about giving away big matches that they are asked to pay to see again. You could get away with during that time because everything was new, excited, and uncharted territory. Nowadays; it's been there, saw that with diminishing returns.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 30, 2016 23:02:19 GMT -5
Did anyone attend any shows in The Attitude Era? I can't imagine being able to see because of all the signs. 10 year old Kev was excited for floor seats to Royal Rumble 2000. Then I had to watch Cactus/HHH on the big screen because I couldn't see a damn thing.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 31, 2016 0:08:31 GMT -5
The biggest thing WWE have lost since the Attitude Era is their desire to make everyone on the show feel significant. They put time and energy into every character and angle, not just the main event picture. Back then, guys like D'Lo Brown and Val Venis got bigger pops than top babyfaces do now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 10:41:57 GMT -5
I still think Bryan a couple years ago is the closest we've gotten to Austin/Rock Attitude Era level pops in this era.
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Post by MGH on Dec 31, 2016 10:44:29 GMT -5
I still think Bryan a couple years ago is the closest we've gotten to Austin/Rock Attitude Era level pops in this era. On multiple occasions no less. The night on Raw when Cena chose him as #1 contender for Summerslam, the win at Wrestlemania XXX, and the night he turned on Bray Wyatt in the cage all netted Attitude Era level reactions. The #1 contender segment was actually crazier than I remembered. When he gets up on the turnbuckle and starts doing the "YES" chant I think almost every last single person in that building was doing it with him, screaming it out. It's a mesmerizing visual.
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