Star Wars Rebels Season 3 - Mid-Season Trailer

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

That was an excellent way to kick off the Sabine arc.

Too bad we've got to wait 3 weeks to see it continue, but good news is, it won't be going against Takeover.

[andrew8798]

At least the Breaks are better then with TMNT

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

The real star of last night's episode was Kanan. Kanan's teaching methods were much more like Count Dooku's was for Savage Opress and how I imagine Luke's methods were for his now doomed Jedi Academy.


The Jedi of old loved to tell everyone to bury their feelings down deep. Be wary of attachment, be mindful of your feelings, etc. Kanan took the approach that any decent psychologist would take when trying to help someone through a rut. It's pointless to avoid what you're feeling. Human nature dictates that we're all going to face emotional nature due to caring about the ones we love. Nothing can be solved unless you face your issues head on. That's a much more healthy approach than the prequel/Clone Wars-era Jedi took. Although, it's also a more painful one.


It seems Kanan and the Bendu's attitude towards the force will be the bridge between the attitudes of the Jedi Order and what we see from Yoda in the Empire Strikes Back. When Luke meets Yoda, burying your feelings and not getting attached weren't emphasized by him. Sure, he mentions that you can't let your attachments cloud your judgement and rush into things that you're not ready for, but he never told Luke the kind of things he told Anakin during Revenge of the Sith when he came to him for guidance on his visions. He told Luke that his visions might not be true, and that the future was always in motion. Not that he must let go of his friends. A drastic departure from the old ways. And Rebels has done a great job in showing that someone like Yoda KNOWS the Jedi and their political, fuddy-duddy attitudes are the main reason why they went from tens of thousands of Jedi Knights to only 3(Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Kanan. Remember, Ezra is still only a padawan, and Ahsoka renounced the order before she was knighted.) And I feel that Kanan and the Bendu are the bridges to that.

[andrew8798]

The show will get a 4th season

[andrew8798]

Tomorrow we got Maul vs Obi-Wan

If Maul survives I will be shocked

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

I would have thought Tuskan Raiders would just leave Jedi alone from here on out after Anakin killed an entire tribe. They're persistent if nothing else.

[The Captain]

I got goosebumps hearing

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}Aunt Beru's "Luke! Luke?" taken right from A New Hope.

And ending the episode and ending credits with Binary Sunset.

James Arnold Taylor does a mean Alec Guinness, too.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

A lot of people aren't going to like the way that ended but, I loved it. Yes, it was short. However, it would make zero sense for Obi Wan to be some sort of swashbuckling Jedi like he was during the Clone Wars not two years before he has a very stiff, awkward fight with Vader. Not to mention, it's much more true to the samurai style that influenced Star Wars in the first place. Also, if you watch closely, Obi Wan baits Maul by using the same stance Qui Gon did. Which made Maul use the same move he did to kill Qui Gon, but Obi Wan countered it perfectly.


It's also the perfect way for Maul to come out. Maul's life was filled with hatred, abandonment, and disappointment.

1.He was given to Sideous by his people as a compromise to ensure they weren't massacred.

1.He was raised to do nothing but hate and kill. A blunt weapon in service to someone else before losing his place after being cut in half.

3. He spent years wallowing in his own waste with nothing but mechanical legs and his craving for revenge.

4. He escaped and ran his own army. Which he lost to the republic just before Order 66.

5. He tried to break Obi Wan by killing Satine, but failed. If anything, it made Obi Wan a better Jedi.

6. He was then forced into hiding after Sideous killed his "mother" right in front of him. Spending the better part of nearly 20 years wasting away again on Malachor. Hiding from Vader's Inquisitors with only his training as an assassin.

7. He finally gets another chance with an impressionable youth and a sith superweapon, only to be thwarted by Kanan.


8. He does his best to turn Ezra to the dark side and make him his apprentice, but is rebuked in the harshest terms possible.


All that said, that leaves him with one last thing to live for: Killing Obi-Wan Kenobi. He has nothing else at this point. No family, no friends, no army, no special powers outside of the normal force abilities, no allies, nothing. All of his setbacks have left him a completely broken shell of a being. Which then is made worse when he finds Ben Kenobi and sees him flourishing despite all the tragedy he's faced in his life. He used his setbacks to make himself a better person, where Maul became nothing more than a husk of resentment. That sets Maul off so much that he completly loses focus and opens himself up to finally being struck down by a man who he hated maybe more than anyone else. Outside of Palpatine, at least.


Maul might be the most tragic character in the history of Star Wars. For the longest time, I thought nothing could top Vader. But, however at least Vader died in the arms of someone who loved him and he loved back. Maul died in the arms of his sworn enemy with nothing more than his pity. Now, he rests in the middle of nowhere on a backwater planet in the armpit of the galaxy. Alas, poor villian. At least he's finally found peace. Here's hoping he's resting in his own grave and not in the belly of a Krayt Dragon or some other beast in the middle of the Dune Sea.


That tragedy also ties in to the episode's ending. Maul, like Obi Wan, Anakin, and so many others, was nothing more than another disposable pawn in Palpatine's grand plans. That ending was designed to show that, for all the awful things that have happened since the events of the Phantom Menace, there is still one last hope to bring justice for all those Sideous has ruined: Luke Skywalker.

[The Captain]

Kenobi showed in that fight why he was considered to be quite possibly the best practitioner of Soresu in the history of the Jedi.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Mar 18, 2017 20:25:25 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Kenobi showed in that fight why he was considered to be quite possibly the best practitioner of Soresu in the history of the Jedi.

I know that Dave Filoni is pretty ambivalent to the idea of "fighting styles." I also know that Pablo Hidalgo personally despises the concept. They're entitled to their opinion but, when dealing with a series filled with swordfighters, that has to come into play. Obi Wan's Soresu is a pretty decent part of his character development after Episode 1. He experienced the disadvantages in Ataru that caused Qui Gon to gas out and leave himself open for Maul to run his saber through. With that knowledge, Obi Wan was able to learn Soresu and use that as a way to ensure that he never makes that same mistake himself.

[andrew8798]

They almost had Vader kill Maul last season

Good thing they didn't

[BlackoutCreature]

What I found interesting was that Obi-Wan knew who Ezra was before Ezra even said anything. Mystical Force abilities? Or has Obi-Wan been keeping in touch with people in the Rebellion? The latter would be interesting, especially since the original trilogy never really suggested it.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Mar 19, 2017 10:00:24 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

What I found interesting was that Obi-Wan knew who Ezra was before Ezra even said anything. Mystical Force abilities? Or has Obi-Wan been keeping in touch with people in the Rebellion? The latter would be interesting, especially since the original trilogy never really suggested it.

There are three possibilities, all of which seem likely:

1) Bail Organa lied about Obi-Won's death. Obviously he knew how to find him by Ep 4 but it seems likely they kept in contact.

2) Obi-Won kept in contact with Yoda this whole time. You know Yoda has mystically kept tabs on Ezra.

3) We also know that Yoda has mystically kept tabs on Luke his entire life, so it is not outrageous to think that Obi-Won could do the same Ezra. After all, Ezra is a somewhat well known individual throughout the Empire thanks to his broadcast in season 1. Granted, not everyone who has heard of him knows he is a Jedi, but enough probably do (especially since Kenobi's old friend Hondo probably name-drops his Jedi friend Ezra everywhere he goes). It makes sense that Obi-Won would keep tabs on him.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Mar 18, 2017 20:15:05 GMT -5 Mochi Lone Wolf said:

A lot of people aren't going to like the way that ended but, I loved it. Yes, it was short. However, it would make zero sense for Obi Wan to be some sort of swashbuckling Jedi like he was during the Clone Wars not two years before he has a very stiff, awkward fight with Vader. Not to mention, it's much more true to the samurai style that influenced Star Wars in the first place. Also, if you watch closely, Obi Wan baits Maul by using the same stance Qui Gon did. Which made Maul use the same move he did to kill Qui Gon, but Obi Wan countered it perfectly.


It's also the perfect way for Maul to come out. Maul's life was filled with hatred, abandonment, and disappointment.

1.He was given to Sideous by his people as a compromise to ensure they weren't massacred.

1.He was raised to do nothing but hate and kill. A blunt weapon in service to someone else before losing his place after being cut in half.

3. He spent years wallowing in his own waste with nothing but mechanical legs and his craving for revenge.

4. He escaped and ran his own army. Which he lost to the republic just before Order 66.

5. He tried to break Obi Wan by killing Satine, but failed. If anything, it made Obi Wan a better Jedi.

6. He was then forced into hiding after Sideous killed his "mother" right in front of him. Spending the better part of nearly 20 years wasting away again on Malachor. Hiding from Vader's Inquisitors with only his training as an assassin.

7. He finally gets another chance with an impressionable youth and a sith superweapon, only to be thwarted by Kanan.


8. He does his best to turn Ezra to the dark side and make him his apprentice, but is rebuked in the harshest terms possible.


All that said, that leaves him with one last thing to live for: Killing Obi-Wan Kenobi. He has nothing else at this point. No family, no friends, no army, no special powers outside of the normal force abilities, no allies, nothing. All of his setbacks have left him a completely broken shell of a being. Which then is made worse when he finds Ben Kenobi and sees him flourishing despite all the tragedy he's faced in his life. He used his setbacks to make himself a better person, where Maul became nothing more than a husk of resentment. That sets Maul off so much that he completly loses focus and opens himself up to finally being struck down by a man who he hated maybe more than anyone else. Outside of Palpatine, at least.


Maul might be the most tragic character in the history of Star Wars. For the longest time, I thought nothing could top Vader. But, however at least Vader died in the arms of someone who loved him and he loved back. Maul died in the arms of his sworn enemy with nothing more than his pity. Now, he rests in the middle of nowhere on a backwater planet in the armpit of the galaxy. Alas, poor villian. At least he's finally found peace. Here's hoping he's resting in his own grave and not in the belly of a Krayt Dragon or some other beast in the middle of the Dune Sea.


That tragedy also ties in to the episode's ending. Maul, like Obi Wan, Anakin, and so many others, was nothing more than another disposable pawn in Palpatine's grand plans. That ending was designed to show that, for all the awful things that have happened since the events of the Phantom Menace, there is still one last hope to bring justice for all those Sideous has ruined: Luke Skywalker.

If you watched Rebel Recon, one of the show's front runners flat out stated that Obi-Won goaded Maul to try the same move he killed Qui-Gon with and countered it to beat him (not sure if Maul's smoking wound as he died was quite kid friendly, however).

Truth is, there are plenty of tragic figures in Star Wars. Maul and Vader are just part of it. Asaaj Ventress was up there in the tragic scale as well. Obi-Won and Yoda turn out to be pretty tragic when you consider what they must have put themselves through during their exiles.

For a low key choice of tragic characters, I present Owen and Beru Lars. As a young couple they found themselves taking on an incredibly dangerous task. They took in his Jedi stepbrother's son to raise as their own (Kenobi lied about Anakin's death). It is obvious that they, particularly Owen, were afraid of anything that might expose Luke to the Empire. Can you imagine always being afraid that Darth Vader might show up to take him away and punish them for hiding a potential Jedi from the Empire? This was amplified by the knowledge that Kenobi was lingering nearby, with his own desire to train the boy, which in Owen's mind could only lead to Luke demise (imagine how the fight in Cloud City would have gone had Luke been fully trained by that point). This fear of discovery is probably why they never had kids of their own to potentially orphan later. Ultimately the two of them died, likely trying to protect any information regarding Luke from the Empire.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Mar 19, 2017 18:34:46 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

Mar 18, 2017 20:15:05 GMT -5 Mochi Lone Wolf said:

A lot of people aren't going to like the way that ended but, I loved it. Yes, it was short. However, it would make zero sense for Obi Wan to be some sort of swashbuckling Jedi like he was during the Clone Wars not two years before he has a very stiff, awkward fight with Vader. Not to mention, it's much more true to the samurai style that influenced Star Wars in the first place. Also, if you watch closely, Obi Wan baits Maul by using the same stance Qui Gon did. Which made Maul use the same move he did to kill Qui Gon, but Obi Wan countered it perfectly.


It's also the perfect way for Maul to come out. Maul's life was filled with hatred, abandonment, and disappointment.

1.He was given to Sideous by his people as a compromise to ensure they weren't massacred.

1.He was raised to do nothing but hate and kill. A blunt weapon in service to someone else before losing his place after being cut in half.

3. He spent years wallowing in his own waste with nothing but mechanical legs and his craving for revenge.

4. He escaped and ran his own army. Which he lost to the republic just before Order 66.

5. He tried to break Obi Wan by killing Satine, but failed. If anything, it made Obi Wan a better Jedi.

6. He was then forced into hiding after Sideous killed his "mother" right in front of him. Spending the better part of nearly 20 years wasting away again on Malachor. Hiding from Vader's Inquisitors with only his training as an assassin.

7. He finally gets another chance with an impressionable youth and a sith superweapon, only to be thwarted by Kanan.


8. He does his best to turn Ezra to the dark side and make him his apprentice, but is rebuked in the harshest terms possible.


All that said, that leaves him with one last thing to live for: Killing Obi-Wan Kenobi. He has nothing else at this point. No family, no friends, no army, no special powers outside of the normal force abilities, no allies, nothing. All of his setbacks have left him a completely broken shell of a being. Which then is made worse when he finds Ben Kenobi and sees him flourishing despite all the tragedy he's faced in his life. He used his setbacks to make himself a better person, where Maul became nothing more than a husk of resentment. That sets Maul off so much that he completly loses focus and opens himself up to finally being struck down by a man who he hated maybe more than anyone else. Outside of Palpatine, at least.


Maul might be the most tragic character in the history of Star Wars. For the longest time, I thought nothing could top Vader. But, however at least Vader died in the arms of someone who loved him and he loved back. Maul died in the arms of his sworn enemy with nothing more than his pity. Now, he rests in the middle of nowhere on a backwater planet in the armpit of the galaxy. Alas, poor villian. At least he's finally found peace. Here's hoping he's resting in his own grave and not in the belly of a Krayt Dragon or some other beast in the middle of the Dune Sea.


That tragedy also ties in to the episode's ending. Maul, like Obi Wan, Anakin, and so many others, was nothing more than another disposable pawn in Palpatine's grand plans. That ending was designed to show that, for all the awful things that have happened since the events of the Phantom Menace, there is still one last hope to bring justice for all those Sideous has ruined: Luke Skywalker.

If you watched Rebel Recon, one of the show's front runners flat out stated that Obi-Won goaded Maul to try the same move he killed Qui-Gon with and countered it to beat him (not sure if Maul's smoking wound as he died was quite kid friendly, however).

Truth is, there are plenty of tragic figures in Star Wars. Maul and Vader are just part of it. Asaaj Ventress was up there in the tragic scale as well. Obi-Won and Yoda turn out to be pretty tragic when you consider what they must have put themselves through during their exiles.

For a low key choice of tragic characters, I present Owen and Beru Lars. As a young couple they found themselves taking on an incredibly dangerous task. They took in his Jedi stepbrother's son to raise as their own (Kenobi lied about Anakin's death). It is obvious that they, particularly Owen, were afraid of anything that might expose Luke to the Empire. Can you imagine always being afraid that Darth Vader might show up to take him away and punish them for hiding a potential Jedi from the Empire? This was amplified by the knowledge that Kenobi was lingering nearby, with his own desire to train the boy, which in Owen's mind could only lead to Luke demise (imagine how the fight in Cloud City would have gone had Luke been fully trained by that point). This fear of discovery is probably why they never had kids of their own to potentially orphan later. Ultimately the two of them died, likely trying to protect any information regarding Luke from the Empire.

Owen and Beru being among the most tragic is a good shout. The comics in the new canon have done an outstanding job of showing that Owen isn't trying to keep Luke on the farm simply because he's a joyless dick. For years, quite a few fans have treated him like he was Uncle Vernon from Harry Potter against all evidence. Thankfully, the new canon has gone out of their way to show that Owen loves Luke like his own son and for that reason, the possibility that Luke could meet the same fate as Anakin keeps him up at night. Compounded by the fact that, as you said, the man who Owen believed killed Anakin is just a stone's throw away from their homestead and is intent on training him as a Jedi as soon as he's ready. Yet, it was he and Beru that faced the gruesome end that they were scared Luke did.


I'd actually really like a story on Owen and Beru as they raised Luke. It wouldn't be enough for a movie or a comic series, but I think a short story novel or one-shot episode on Rebels or the next rumored animated series would be quite interesting.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Mar 19, 2017 10:00:24 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

What I found interesting was that Obi-Wan knew who Ezra was before Ezra even said anything. Mystical Force abilities? Or has Obi-Wan been keeping in touch with people in the Rebellion? The latter would be interesting, especially since the original trilogy never really suggested it.

I think it's a combination of Obi Wan being that strong in the force due to the amount of meditating he's been doing since after ROTS, and the fact that I think Yoda flat out told him through the force.

[lucas_lee]

Mar 18, 2017 20:09:24 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I got goosebumps hearing

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Aunt Beru's "Luke! Luke?" taken right from A New Hope.

And ending the episode and ending credits with Binary Sunset.

James Arnold Taylor does a mean Alec Guinness, too.

The VA was Stephen Stanton who also voiced Tarkin in the Clone Wars

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Mar 19, 2017 21:38:33 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 18, 2017 20:09:24 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I got goosebumps hearing

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Aunt Beru's "Luke! Luke?" taken right from A New Hope.

And ending the episode and ending credits with Binary Sunset.

James Arnold Taylor does a mean Alec Guinness, too.

The VA was Stephen Stanton who also voiced Tarkin in the Clone Wars

He also voices Tarkin in Rebels. He's amazing and I was ecstatic when I heard he was getting a role in Rogue One.

[The Captain]

Mar 19, 2017 21:38:33 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 18, 2017 20:09:24 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I got goosebumps hearing

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Aunt Beru's "Luke! Luke?" taken right from A New Hope.

And ending the episode and ending credits with Binary Sunset.

James Arnold Taylor does a mean Alec Guinness, too.

The VA was Stephen Stanton who also voiced Tarkin in the Clone Wars

Huh. I saw JAT in the credits and I assumed he voiced both Obi-Wans in Rebels since he voiced him in Clone Wars. My mistake then.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Mar 20, 2017 13:44:54 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Mar 19, 2017 21:38:33 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

The VA was Stephen Stanton who also voiced Tarkin in the Clone Wars

Huh. I saw JAT in the credits and I assumed he voiced both Obi-Wans in Rebels since he voiced him in Clone Wars. My mistake then.

I think JAT is credited for the recording of Obi Wan in the Jedi holocron.