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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 24, 2017 22:38:10 GMT -5
Season finale leaked on Specturm on Demand. I've seen it. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}1. Thrawn wins. Dominates, even.
2. Rebels take out some imperials, but not enough to even come close to winning the battle.
3. Konstantine and Saito die.
4. Thrawn kills Bendu.
5. Rebels flee. Not clear to me whether it's Dantooine or Yavin 4 they're running to.
6. Deathtroopers are the best!
Good episode. Not as good as last season's finale, but still good nonetheless.
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 24, 2017 22:41:15 GMT -5
If they really want to shock the audience They should {Spoiler}Kill off Rex
That would be a real kick in the stomach
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 24, 2017 22:47:43 GMT -5
If they really want to shock the audience They should Kill off Rex
That would be a real kick in the stomach {Spoiler}{Spoiler}My gut tells me they're waiting to reintroduce Cody for Rex. BTW, where the hell are Wolffe and Gregor?
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 24, 2017 22:52:15 GMT -5
They left them on that planet
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 25, 2017 21:18:06 GMT -5
That ending tells something force sensitive will kill Thrawn. My guess? The Emperor. Aftermath:Empire's End made it clear Palpatine valued Thrawn for his knowledge of the unknown regions. Thrawn, as the recent excerpt of the new book from Timothy Zahn told us, sees whatever is out there as a threat. The Aftermath trilogy showed that the Empetor sees opportunity where Thrawn sees danger. That clash of ideas will lead to Palpatine cutting off another loose end. And I wouldn't mind that because Thrawn wouldn't see that coming. If he dies, it should only be through something he never could have seen coming no matter how thorough he is.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 25, 2017 22:33:36 GMT -5
The episode was fantastic. I also checked out the recap of the episode on Rebel recon where they not only recapped the show but talked a little about Season 4. It sounds like there are big things ahead.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 26, 2017 13:58:26 GMT -5
So Thrawn is being attacked by the actual sky and his response is to shoot at the sky until it dies? Gotta say, I admire the man for that.
You know, something has been bothering me all season. What exactly is Pryce's "job", for lack of a better term? Her title is "Governor", so I assumed she was the Imperial Governor of Lothal, but I would also assume a job like that would actually keep her on Lothal. So why is she traveling around the galaxy with Thawn's fleet hunting Rebels? What exactly is she Governor of?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 26, 2017 17:24:46 GMT -5
So Thrawn is being attacked by the actual sky and his response is to shoot at the sky until it dies? Gotta say, I admire the man for that. You know, something has been bothering me all season. What exactly is Pryce's "job", for lack of a better term? Her title is "Governor", so I assumed she was the Imperial Governor of Lothal, but I would also assume a job like that would actually keep her on Lothal. So why is she traveling around the galaxy with Thawn's fleet hunting Rebels? What exactly is she Governor of? She isn't just in charge of the planet. After all, why would the Emperor care about hanging around with the leader of some Outer Rim planet (remember, that is where she was for much of the first two seasons)? She is a regional governor. In fact, many of the planets shown on the show are probably under her command. Cannon planets that are definitely under her command are Lothal, Garel, Oon, and Montross (where Skystrike Academy is). Other planets that are nearby and possibly under her command include Malachor, Atollon, Gand, Iego, Felucia, and Kessel. Then again, Mon Calamari is nearby as well and probably under someone else's command. She also seems to have a senior rank in the Imperial Navy, which is why she is qualified to command Thrawn's fleet in his absence (especially if Atollon is in her sector).
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 26, 2017 18:32:22 GMT -5
I will say one thing about the finale, and that is that it did not quite end how I expected. It was obvious since the midseason trailer came out that the finale would be a battle at Atollon, but the ending was not what I expected. I honestly expected Bendu to teach Kanan to unleash a Force storm himself to save everyone, at the cost of his own life.
Why would I think that? Well, to be blunt there has only been one thing obvious since the end of the first season: Something had to happen to make Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra all unavailable to train Luke in the Force. Now, obviously Ahsoka is either literally dead, busy learning to be the new Ashla (the name of The Daughter, the Force User who restored her to life when she was killed by The Son), or busy studying the Sith temple on Malachor to later emerge as a Dark Side user, either in person or by some Force manifestation (that's right, I'm introducing the theory that Ahsoka is Snoke, since she is about the only one to not be theorized to be him).
That just leaves Kanan and Ezra. At first my working theory was that Ezra has a serious brush with the Dark Side and the crew of the Ghost leaves the Rebellion to help him recover, making them unavailable to train Luke. Rogue One ruins that, however, as Hera and Chopper at the very least are obviously on Yavin just a few days/weeks before Luke gets there with the Ghost. Considering Kanan's relationship with Hera, I'm reluctant to believe that he would simply leave her forever, even to help Ezra. That leaves some sad possibilities in place.
My bet was that Kanan dies saving everyone from some villain (Thrawn, Vader, etc.), Ezra winds up giving in to the teachings he got from the Sith holocron, and even after being brought back goes into exile to protect everyone from himself. I suppose that could all still happen or they come up with some more Disney-fied reason that neither one of them are around to train Luke. Either way, something has to happen that prevents Kanan and Ezra from being around in the Rebellion come Ep 4.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 26, 2017 18:54:27 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I don't think the Bendu is dead. Thrawn shot him at point blank range only to have that blaster bolt put a smoking hole in the ground with no Bendu in sight. And it didn't come off like Obi-Wan or Yoda where he became one with the Force. I think he just hung around to taunt Thrawn about his destiny and just go poof. Kinda sad that yesterday was the season finale already. I'm already excited for Season 4. Wonder if we'll see more cameos from Rogue One characters like Cassian and K-2SO. Even a Jyn cameo is possible. Or Krennic. I also want to see them delve more into Force mysticism lore like they did in Season 2. I'd love to see Ezra and Kanan find the Jedi ruins on Dantooine while the Rebels are there, for instance. As for Pryce and her governorship, I've always assumed that the governors and moffs administered to entire sectors rather than individual planets, which are more left to the Ministers (like Tua from Season 1) in the governor's absence.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 26, 2017 19:04:16 GMT -5
I will say one thing about the finale, and that is that it did not quite end how I expected. It was obvious since the midseason trailer came out that the finale would be a battle at Atollon, but the ending was not what I expected. I honestly expected Bendu to teach Kanan to unleash a Force storm himself to save everyone, at the cost of his own life. Why would I think that? Well, to be blunt there has only been one thing obvious since the end of the first season: Something had to happen to make Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra all unavailable to train Luke in the Force. Now, obviously Ahsoka is either literally dead, busy learning to be the new Ashla (the name of The Daughter, the Force User who restored her to life when she was killed by The Son), or busy studying the Sith temple on Malachor to later emerge as a Dark Side user, either in person or by some Force manifestation (that's right, I'm introducing the theory that Ahsoka is Snoke, since she is about the only one to not be theorized to be him). That just leaves Kanan and Ezra. At first my working theory was that Ezra has a serious brush with the Dark Side and the crew of the Ghost leaves the Rebellion to help him recover, making them unavailable to train Luke. Rogue One ruins that, however, as Hera and Chopper at the very least are obviously on Yavin just a few days/weeks before Luke gets there with the Ghost. Considering Kanan's relationship with Hera, I'm reluctant to believe that he would simply leave her forever, even to help Ezra. That leaves some sad possibilities in place. My bet was that Kanan dies saving everyone from some villain (Thrawn, Vader, etc.), Ezra winds up giving in to the teachings he got from the Sith holocron, and even after being brought back goes into exile to protect everyone from himself. I suppose that could all still happen or they come up with some more Disney-fied reason that neither one of them are around to train Luke. Either way, something has to happen that prevents Kanan and Ezra from being around in the Rebellion come Ep 4. The fact that we don't see the Ghost crew in Episode 4 means that either they got lost in the middle of the chaos over Scariff after Vader's star destroyer appeared, or they were flat-out destroyed. That's why I can't wait for when Rebels covers the Battle of Scarif. It'll finally give us an answer as to what happened to the Ghost. Because, while watching the digital HD copy of Rogue One, I saw the Ghost twice during the battle. Once at the beginning, and again when covering for Admiral Raddus' ship. After Vader's star destroyer appeared, I didn't see them at all. Not just that, I didn't even see them exiting with the rest of the ships that jumped to hyperspace before Vader's arrival. I can't wait to see the Battle of Scarif from their POV. As for Ezra and Kanan, I think the Emperor will get exasperated and just order Vader to be rid of them by any means neccesary. Meaning they'll either die or go into hiding.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 26, 2017 19:07:46 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I don't think the Bendu is dead. Thrawn shot him at point blank range only to have that blaster bolt put a smoking hole in the ground with no Bendu in sight. And it didn't come off like Obi-Wan or Yoda where he became one with the Force. I think he just hung around to taunt Thrawn about his destiny and just go poof. Kinda sad that yesterday was the season finale already. I'm already excited for Season 4. Wonder if we'll see more cameos from Rogue One characters like Cassian and K-2SO. Even a Jyn cameo is possible. Or Krennic. I also want to see them delve more into Force mysticism lore like they did in Season 2. I'd love to see Ezra and Kanan find the Jedi ruins on Dantooine while the Rebels are there, for instance. As for Pryce and her governorship, I've always assumed that the governors and moffs administered to entire sectors rather than individual planets, which are more left to the Ministers (like Tua from Season 1) in the governor's absence. Filoni confirmed we'll at least see Mon Mothma and Saw Gerrara again. I'd imagine that we may see Cassian take over as Fulcrum since Kallus will probably be on infiltration missions as a former imperial. Not every imperial unit will know he defected. And, of course, with Cassian comes Kaytoo. Perhaps they'll run into Jyn and that's how Bail, Dodonna, and Mon Mothma will know she's alive. Then of course, there's this concept art tease for Season 4: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 26, 2017 19:42:38 GMT -5
I will say one thing about the finale, and that is that it did not quite end how I expected. It was obvious since the midseason trailer came out that the finale would be a battle at Atollon, but the ending was not what I expected. I honestly expected Bendu to teach Kanan to unleash a Force storm himself to save everyone, at the cost of his own life. Why would I think that? Well, to be blunt there has only been one thing obvious since the end of the first season: Something had to happen to make Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra all unavailable to train Luke in the Force. Now, obviously Ahsoka is either literally dead, busy learning to be the new Ashla (the name of The Daughter, the Force User who restored her to life when she was killed by The Son), or busy studying the Sith temple on Malachor to later emerge as a Dark Side user, either in person or by some Force manifestation (that's right, I'm introducing the theory that Ahsoka is Snoke, since she is about the only one to not be theorized to be him). That just leaves Kanan and Ezra. At first my working theory was that Ezra has a serious brush with the Dark Side and the crew of the Ghost leaves the Rebellion to help him recover, making them unavailable to train Luke. Rogue One ruins that, however, as Hera and Chopper at the very least are obviously on Yavin just a few days/weeks before Luke gets there with the Ghost. Considering Kanan's relationship with Hera, I'm reluctant to believe that he would simply leave her forever, even to help Ezra. That leaves some sad possibilities in place. My bet was that Kanan dies saving everyone from some villain (Thrawn, Vader, etc.), Ezra winds up giving in to the teachings he got from the Sith holocron, and even after being brought back goes into exile to protect everyone from himself. I suppose that could all still happen or they come up with some more Disney-fied reason that neither one of them are around to train Luke. Either way, something has to happen that prevents Kanan and Ezra from being around in the Rebellion come Ep 4. The fact that we don't see the Ghost crew in Episode 4 means that either they got lost in the middle of the chaos over Scariff after Vader's star destroyer appeared, or they were flat-out destroyed. That's why I can't wait for when Rebels covers the Battle of Scarif. It'll finally give us an answer as to what happened to the Ghost. Because, while watching the digital HD copy of Rogue One, I saw the Ghost twice during the battle. Once at the beginning, and again when covering for Admiral Raddus' ship. After Vader's star destroyer appeared, I didn't see them at all. Not just that, I didn't even see them exiting with the rest of the ships that jumped to hyperspace before Vader's arrival. I can't wait to see the Battle of Scarif from their POV. As for Ezra and Kanan, I think the Emperor will get exasperated and just order Vader to be rid of them by any means neccesary. Meaning they'll either die or go into hiding. Well, I seriously doubt that they will kill off the entire crew, so the Ghost will escape the battle in some way. They may have to set down for repairs and get word of the destruction of both Alderaan and the Death Star itself before they can take off again, but at least some, if not most of the crew will make it to the end of the show. I imagine that Hera, Sabine, and Zeb will then focus on their own homeworlds' struggles at that point to end the show, but that's not too bad of an ending. I also don't see them killing off Ezra, unless it is in the finale after he turns dark and Kanan is forced to destroy him while the rest of the crew is busy at the Battle of Scarif, after which time Kanan sets himself off to exile to center himself. Either way, I see at least one of them, if not both, going in to exile. Also, neither is getting killed by Vader. At most, they go off separately at the end to deal with either Vader's secret apprentice or Palpatine's potential replacement (Snoke?). Actually, I like the prospect of that second one, which would explain why Snoke was not around in the original trilogy (off recuperating) and just why he looked like he lost a fight with a lawn mower in Ep 7. Granted, that probably would not occur unless the show gets a 5th season, allowing them to adequately address who Snoke is in Ep 8.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 26, 2017 20:28:46 GMT -5
I've always said that my dream ending for Star Wars Rebels is a distant finale set somewhere between ESB and RotJ. A fully trained Jedi Ezra walks into a scrapyard on a Rebel base run by three siblings, he walks up to the youngest one and says "so I hear you want to be a Jedi?". Because goddamnit, The Freemaker Adventures was awesome and deserves to be canon.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 26, 2017 20:58:42 GMT -5
I've always said that my dream ending for Star Wars Rebels is a distant finale set somewhere between ESB and RotJ. A fully trained Jedi Ezra walks into a scrapyard on a Rebel base run by three siblings, he walks up to the youngest one and says "so I hear you want to be a Jedi?". Because goddamnit, The Freemaker Adventures was awesome and deserves to be canon. The 4 time Daytime Emmy nominated Freemaker Adventures
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