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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 20:20:23 GMT -5
All I remember is Orton's interview about the WM match.
Cracks me up reading it because you can literally hear Orton say that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 0:33:55 GMT -5
All I remember is Orton's interview about the WM match. Cracks me up reading it because you can literally hear Orton say that. Even though I love the match, that quote still cracks me up.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 7, 2017 0:55:26 GMT -5
Not that I was watching much at the time, but I remember thinking that there was some cool potential for this angle when I heard about it. I enjoy the trope where a physically weaker-yet-financially or politically powerful character gets owned by a physically or mentally stronger character who isn't swayed at all by the money or authority the other can throw around or threaten them with, and after years of so many wrestlers having to play scared of the McMahons it seemed interesting to have one in effect saying "Nope, don't care, I'm younger, faster, stronger, and better than you, you're in MY ring, not YOUR office, so I'm going to annihilate you. Go ahead, fire me if you really want to."
Plus, just imagine if Orton had gotten to get booked as the guy who took the McMahons off TV for good via his actions. Think of how big a deal that would be for any wrestler, and how unstable it would make them look. Just a cool opportunity to do something big and different, but as per usual most things just revert back to the status quo in WWE before you can blink.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Jan 7, 2017 1:37:54 GMT -5
I remember it being the only time wrestling ever got my mom to say "Oh shit".
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Post by Perfect Timing on Jan 7, 2017 1:39:56 GMT -5
I remember marking hard when he took out Vince. Like I was really thinking OMG, I can't wait to see what happens next type of marking.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 7, 2017 1:56:05 GMT -5
It was the last time I found Orton entertaining.
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Post by schma on Jan 7, 2017 5:07:17 GMT -5
It was honestly my favorite moment in WWE since the early 2000s. It reinvigorated my liking of WWE and when I officially became an Orton fan. Yeah, the payoff was lackluster but man Orton was cool at this time. I wished they hadn't dropped the IED angle. I hated the IED angle. I think that was the time I started to dislike Orton. His whole running around punting everyone and never getting any comeuppance for it annoyed me to no end. I just desperately wanted one segment where everyone he'd ever punted cornered him in a ring and took turns punting him into oblivion.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 7, 2017 10:11:44 GMT -5
It was honestly my favorite moment in WWE since the early 2000s. It reinvigorated my liking of WWE and when I officially became an Orton fan. Yeah, the payoff was lackluster but man Orton was cool at this time. I wished they hadn't dropped the IED angle. I hated the IED angle. I think that was the time I started to dislike Orton. His whole running around punting everyone and never getting any comeuppance for it annoyed me to no end. I just desperately wanted one segment where everyone he'd ever punted cornered him in a ring and took turns punting him into oblivion. He got his comeuppance as soon as WrestleMania 25..lol.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 7, 2017 11:23:57 GMT -5
Orton winning at wm25 would have made him a made heel. He had so much heat after punting vince and rko'ing steph, but the stuff with shane and triple h killed him. Expecially the "home invasion " angle where triple h demolished randy's house, obliterated randy and sent his actress wife running.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 7, 2017 19:14:14 GMT -5
All I could think of was when Snoopy was the Mad Punter
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Post by hossfan on Jan 7, 2017 19:29:31 GMT -5
I liked the promo Vince cut on Orton before getting punted: "If it wasn't for me you'd be a gym teacher in St. Louis."
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 8, 2017 8:36:55 GMT -5
This was the hardest I ever crushed on Randy Orton. After he RKO'd Stephanie I was pretty much "take me now".
The IED thing is a wasted storyline arc they could easily go back to at anytime. kinda sad they haven't.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jan 8, 2017 9:21:04 GMT -5
I didn't care about that whole storyline at all, but still pretty easy to see they completely f***ed it up and drove Orton's momentum into the ground when he was red hot at the time with the general public. Still hold the Mania main event should have been either a crazy run-in fest no DQ match where it's basically a total war and Orton steals the win, or with the DQ stipulation it should've been Orton pushing Triple H's buttons and getting him more and more pissed off until Triple H eventually just beat him to death to the point he had to be hauled out on a stretcher, but Orton still went out holding the belt up to show at the end of the day, no matter what Triple H had done to him his plan had worked. Quoted for the stretcher ride mention. The guys who dare to test Squirrel Master are routinely taken away by nice young men in their clean white coats.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Jan 8, 2017 9:35:31 GMT -5
I liked the feud for how insane it was (Orton beating up the McMahons, Triple H breaking into his house), but I hated how it led up to one of the slowest, most boring WM main events of all time. Triple H and Orton were trying kill each other leading up to Mania, and it all led to such a snoozefest. They should have made it No Holds Barred and let them go nuts.
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Post by KobashiChop on Jan 8, 2017 12:39:01 GMT -5
Good God that WM 25 match should've been no DQ. Orton should've won. It should not have gone on last when the best WrestleMania match ever took place on the same card.
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Post by schma on Jan 9, 2017 3:51:33 GMT -5
I hated the IED angle. I think that was the time I started to dislike Orton. His whole running around punting everyone and never getting any comeuppance for it annoyed me to no end. I just desperately wanted one segment where everyone he'd ever punted cornered him in a ring and took turns punting him into oblivion. He got his comeuppance as soon as WrestleMania 25..lol. Losing a match where he had the upper hand going in thanks to the stipulation is hardly comeuppance for kayfabe injuring multiple superstars and bosses. Him getting punted and knocked off screen for a few months, that would've been comeuppance. But most of the people in here seemed to have loved this version of Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 4:23:27 GMT -5
Good God that WM 25 match should've been no DQ. Orton should've won. It should not have gone on last when the best WrestleMania match ever took place on the same card. It was right to go on last. The triple threat was pretty phoned-in build-wise and Taker / Michaels really only got its status as something legendary in hindsight and really didn't have that much build or purpose behind it going in, plus of course they didn't know in putting the card together that it'd be just as good as it was, plus the triple threat wasn't hurt by it so it wasn't show-killing good. It's just it should've been booked as a crazy war like the build was suggesting instead of like a tepid Raw main event.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 9, 2017 4:47:59 GMT -5
Taker / Michaels really only got its status as something legendary in hindsight and really didn't have that much build or purpose behind it going in, plus of course they didn't know in putting the card together that it'd be just as good as it was I can't agree with this at all. People were salivating over Taker vs. Michaels as soon as Mania 25 was announced in Texas. Michaels had long established his reputation as Mr. Wrestlemania, and knew he wasn't going to have a bad match on any Mania card. Meanwhile, Undertaker also had his best Mania peformances in the last few Wrestlemanias between 21 with Orton, 23 with Batista, and 24 with Edge. And of course, The Streak. Everyone knew Shawn vs. Taker was going to be the centerpiece of Wrestlemania 25 given both guys were from Texas, so no one should have been that shocked that they outshined everything on the show.
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