MOAR Reigns, Owens & Jericho on Monday's RAW

[Gravedigger's Biscuits]

WWE are lucky that people will tune in for Taker and HBK.

[DZ: WF Legacy]

I think this is where Jericho is gonna finally get it. They'd have an excuse where Reigns was facing them both, so that's why he lost. He'll of course demolish them both post-match, but yeah.

[Chuck Conry]

Jerico-Ownes as co-US Champ?

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You know, if it wasn't for Enzo being a pervert (and Big Cass being a dick), maybe Cass & Rusev both should be in the main event.

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

Jan 6, 2017 17:52:58 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

Jerico-Ownes as co-US Champ?

Cue the predictable infighting as they both try to cover Roman

[ben:friendship frog]

Jan 6, 2017 13:14:03 GMT -5 Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast said:

So here is every Reigns Raw match since July 25th to involve either Owens or Jericho

July 25th: Roman Reigns defeated Sheamus, Chris Jericho and Sami Zayn in a Fatal 4-Way Match (17:14)
August 22nd: Roman Reigns defeated Chris Jericho in a WWE Universal Title #1 Contendership Qualifying Match (15:00)
August 29th: Kevin Owens defeated Seth Rollins, Big Cass & Roman Reigns in a Fatal 4-Way Elimination Match to win the vacant WWE Universal Championship
September 12th: Kevin Owens defeated Roman Reigns by DQ (13:10)/Kevin Owens defeated Roman Reigns in a No disqualification Match
September 19th: Roman Reigns defeated Kevin Owens in a Steel Cage Match (14:39)
October 31st: Roman Reigns (c) defeated Chris Jericho (w/ Kevin Owens) by disqualification in a WWE United States Championship Match (16:00)
November 7th: Kevin Owens defeated Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Chris Jericho and Braun Strowman in a Fatal 5-Way No Disqualification match (13:00)
November 14th: Roman Reigns & Kevin Owens defeated Sheamus & Cesaro
November 20th (Survivor Series): Team SmackDown (AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, Shane McMahon, and Bray Wyatt) (with James Ellsworth) defeated Team Raw (Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, and Braun Strowman
November 28th: Roman Reigns defeated Kevin Owens to be the #1 Contender for the WWE Universal Championship (17:00)
December 5th: Roman Reigns (c) defeated Chris Jericho to retain the WWE United States Championship (14:00)
December 12th: The New Day (Xavier Woods & Big E) (w/ Kofi Kingston) (c) defeated Jeri-KO (Chris Jericho & Kevin Owens) and Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns in a Tag Team Triple Threat Match to retain the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship
December 18th (Roadblock: End of the Line): Kevin Owens defeated Roman Reigns by disqualification
December 19th: Roman Reigns & Seth Rollins defeated Chris Jericho & Kevin Owens by Disqualification
December 26th: Roman Reigns (c) defeated Kevin Owens to retain the WWE United States Championship (16:00)
January 2nd: Roman Reigns (c) defeated Chris Jericho to retain the WWE United States Championship (14:00)


As for Seth:
September 5th: Seth Rollins defeated Chris Jericho
September 25th(Clash of Champions): Kevin Owens defeated Seth Rollins
October 10th: Seth Rollins defeated Chris Jericho
October 17th: Seth Rollins defeated Chris Jericho
October 24th: Seth Rollins defeated Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho in a Triple Threat Match (10:00)
October 30th(Hell in a Cell): Kevin Owens defeated Seth Rollins in a Hell in a Cell Match
November 14th: Seth Rollins, Chris Jericho & Braun Strowman defeated The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods) (14:00)
November 20th (Survivor Series): Team SmackDown (AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, Shane McMahon, and Bray Wyatt) (with James Ellsworth) defeated Team Raw (Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, and Braun Strowman
November 21st: Kevin Owens (c) defeated Seth Rollins in a No Disqualification Match to retain the WWE Universal Championship (23:00)
December 12th: The New Day (Xavier Woods & Big E) (w/ Kofi Kingston) (c) defeated Jeri-KO (Chris Jericho & Kevin Owens) and Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns in a Tag Team Triple Threat Match to retain the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship
December 18th (Roadblock: End of the Line): Seth Rollins defeated Chris Jericho
December 19th: Roman Reigns & Seth Rollins defeated Chris Jericho & Kevin Owens by Disqualification
January 2nd: Seth Rollins defeated Kevin Owens by disqualification

What I take from this is that Owens has pinned Reigns once, thanks to Triple H.

[Deleted]

How exactly does a handicap match for a title work?

If one guy on the team wins, are they co-champions?

And if it's just the guy who gets the fall isn't that just a triple threat?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

This is f***ing stupid

[bearned]

If they want to get heel heat (and this'd probably get a pop these days actually now I think about it) they should have just made a triple threat for the US title and have Owens and Jericho do a finger poke of doom style screwjob on Reigns.

[arrogantmodel]

Wow. Looks like I'll be skipping another Raw. I also haven't watched a whole episode in months. I've probably only watch the first half hour or so to see the layout/matches and then I give up.

This is absurd, the same matches over and over again. And yeah, how isn't it a triple threat? If Jericho pins or submits (haha) Reigns, he should be US Champ alone.

Why not make it interesting and make it like Jericho/Benoit/Angle from WM 2000 with the US title on the line for the first fall and Universal title up for grabs on the second?

Roman can spear Owens, Jericho hits the Codebreaker on Reigns, Reigns falls out of the ring. Jericho just covers Owens for the US title. Next fall, Owens pins Reigns to retain, or another mishap leading to Owens covering Jericho.

It helps to tease the Owens/Jericho split and/or have Owens get a pin on Roman leading into the Rumble.

Or, you know, stop having the same god damn match week after week with the same result. But at least my idea adds a little twist and intrigue.

[Andy Martin]

Jan 6, 2017 18:01:15 GMT -5 Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast said:

Jan 6, 2017 17:52:58 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

Jerico-Ownes as co-US Champ?

Cue the predictable infighting as they both try to cover Roman

Man I hope so.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

And I have to close at work that night so I would likely miss it.

Though this feels to me like the title will change hands for sure. Only thing is I think Braun interferes and attacks Reigns, demands a title shot, Reigns gives him the match, and Braun wins.

[Mayonnaise]

Jan 6, 2017 18:10:26 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

How exactly does a handicap match for a title work?

If one guy on the team wins, are they co-champions?

And if it's just the guy who gets the fall isn't that just a triple threat?

JeriKO win the US Title, Roman wins the Universal, Jericho refuses to give KO his Rumble spot, Finn wins the Mania shot, JeriKO break up.

WM:
Universal:
Roman defends against Finn (Finn loses)

US Title:
Jericho v. Owens

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

Jan 6, 2017 20:58:35 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Jan 6, 2017 18:10:26 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

How exactly does a handicap match for a title work?

If one guy on the team wins, are they co-champions?

And if it's just the guy who gets the fall isn't that just a triple threat?

JeriKO win the US Title, Roman wins the Universal, Jericho refuses to give KO his Rumble spot, Finn wins the Mania shot, JeriKO break up.

WM:
Universal:
Roman defends against Finn (Finn loses)

US Title:
Jericho v. Owens

No way they have Balor lose. That would be a recipe for disaster.

[Mayonnaise]

Jan 6, 2017 21:21:10 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

Jan 6, 2017 20:58:35 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

JeriKO win the US Title, Roman wins the Universal, Jericho refuses to give KO his Rumble spot, Finn wins the Mania shot, JeriKO break up.

WM:
Universal:
Roman defends against Finn (Finn loses)

US Title:
Jericho v. Owens

No way they have Balor lose. That would be a recipe for disaster.

Having sat through Mania 32 I can say with no doubt that WWE does not give a shit about creating a disaster, they care about getting what they want. We know what they want, Roman as God, and they won't be giving up until they get it. I'd welcome being proven wrong by them but I do not expect it.

[G✇JI☈A]

Are the letting WWE 2K16 Universe mode do the booking?

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

Jan 6, 2017 21:26:12 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Jan 6, 2017 21:21:10 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

No way they have Balor lose. That would be a recipe for disaster.

Having sat through Mania 32 I can say with no doubt that WWE does not give a shit about creating a disaster, they care about getting what they want. We know what they want, Roman as God, and they won't be giving up until they get it. I'd welcome being proven wrong by them but I do not expect it.

I love Roman to death but even I don't think they'd job Balor out to him at WM. Not unless that's when they turn Roman heel, and even then I don't think it's a good idea at all.

Besides, I love Balor and thought his match against Reigns was one of the best matches I saw last year. And my suspicion is that WWE was gong to have a rocket strapped to him until he got hurt against Rollins. WM would be the perfect time to restart that rocket.

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This is where I want someone who gets to interview someone in charge to ask "Are you all insane, stupid, lazy or a combination of the three?" Who in their right f***ing minds legitimately thinks "You know what people want to watch? The same match over and over again for six months. That'll get those ratings up."

[xCompackx]

Hey, I think we should give WWE credit here. They're doing a good thing by warning us of this match with enough time so we can properly avoid watching it. Kudos, WWE; you did a good thing.

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It's just so unclever too. Stephanie McMahon is still a heel but she doesn't have her nose in everyone's business to really have much reason to put Roman in this match. Just a BS handicap title match sprung up out of nothing.