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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 10, 2017 20:10:23 GMT -5
Outside of the super obvious ones like ROH (which technically hasn't been an indie for some time now).
The first to come to mind is IWA: Mid-South. Yep still alive. Don't worry though. We'll get that pizza oven one day.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jan 11, 2017 17:48:06 GMT -5
The only feds I know of in the LA/MS/AL area that run weekly is Southern Championship Wrestling. They mostly run Kiln MS. Not that great a fed,mostly cause they have had the same feuds going on for what feels like 10 years,and has been at least 6 years.
OWO outta north MS runs usually 3 shows a month so almost weekly. They have a better product and for a bit had Buff Bagwell on lots of their shows. Plus almost every show they bring in a Memphis Legend.
Every other fed I know on in my area runs at the most 2 shows a month,usually 1 show a month.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jan 11, 2017 18:49:23 GMT -5
NWA Smoky Mountain runs pretty close to weekly. They have their regular crew (which includes Chase Owens when he's not in Japan and Jason Kincaid, who has made a few ROH appearances) and have brought in vets like Ricky Morton (of course), X-Pac, and Adam Pearce as well as current guys like Michael Elgin and Davey Richards.
I've not made it to a show since the closest they run is a couple of hours away and I'm usually working.
I tried watching their TV for a while, but never quite got into it.
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Post by lws on Jan 11, 2017 18:59:34 GMT -5
Championship Wrestling From Hollywood has a weekly TV show and biweekly taping schedule. They have a solid cast of homegrown talent and occasionally get big indy names and former legends to show up at major events.
I catch the show every now and again on TV, and went to one of their tapings. Its way overproduced with fake crowd noise, but other than that it's a decent throwback to studio wrestling shows from the '80s. Plenty of their regular talent show promise in the ring, but the angles are typically unoriginal and performed without creativity, so I can't connect with the show too heavily. Jervis Cottonbelly is a lot of fun, though.
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Post by Ted Sheckler on Jan 11, 2017 21:26:25 GMT -5
How do indies afford to run weekly?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 22:40:06 GMT -5
How do indies afford to run weekly? By paying very little to the talent and keeping ticket prices cheap enough that fans can attend every week. Most rely heavily on young wrestlers who value the opportunity to wrestle that frequently and see the ring time they get in front of a crowd as beneficial. Most places that run weekly also operate their own wrestling school, so the shows are a place for their trainees to get experience. |
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Post by lws on Jan 11, 2017 22:55:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I totally don't get how CWFH makes any money at all. The shows are free to attend, and while they probably make some advertising money, I feel like its gotta be more expensive to produce than its worth. But history has made it clear a bizarre number of wrestlers are willing to work basically for free.
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Post by Ted Sheckler on Jan 11, 2017 23:13:35 GMT -5
How do indies afford to run weekly? By paying very little to the talent and keeping ticket prices cheap enough that fans can attend every week. Most rely heavily on young wrestlers who value the opportunity to wrestle that frequently and see the ring time they get in front of a crowd as beneficial. Most places that run weekly also operate their own wrestling school, so the shows are a place for their trainees to get experience. Even if the talent works for free and the building is free you'd still have to drop money on insurance, advertising (Even if limited), equipment hire/equipment moving which you'd have to think would cost you at least 500 dollars minimum for everything. I guess if you sell 5 dollar tickets and you're running a decent sized building and pulling a decent crowd it could work but I think most promoters would struggle to break even or would be doing something a little dodgy. It's definitely good for the talent though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 4:31:56 GMT -5
By paying very little to the talent and keeping ticket prices cheap enough that fans can attend every week. Most rely heavily on young wrestlers who value the opportunity to wrestle that frequently and see the ring time they get in front of a crowd as beneficial. Most places that run weekly also operate their own wrestling school, so the shows are a place for their trainees to get experience. Even if the talent works for free and the building is free you'd still have to drop money on insurance, advertising (Even if limited), equipment hire/equipment moving which you'd have to think would cost you at least 500 dollars minimum for everything. I guess if you sell 5 dollar tickets and you're running a decent sized building and pulling a decent crowd it could work but I think most promoters would struggle to break even or would be doing something a little dodgy. It's definitely good for the talent though. Usually the reason anyone runs weekly shows is that their venue circumstances make it easy to do. For example, someone who owns their own ring, owns their own basic sound system, and has a deal with their venue to either get it for free, or in exchange for the venue keeping liquor sales but not charging rent, etc. A lot of the smaller indies don't get insurance unless the venue they are running at requires it. If they have their own ring, and have no venue or insurance expenses, then all of the ticket money can go into paying the wrestlers and doing a bit of advertising. Circumstances like that are why promotions like IWA Mid-South have existed for as long as they have. They can sell a few hundred dollars worth of tickets and still turn a profit if they pay the guys $20 each and do well with that pizza oven on selling concessions. |
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Post by jimmyjames on Jan 12, 2017 4:33:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I totally don't get how CWFH makes any money at all. The shows are free to attend, and while they probably make some advertising money, I feel like its gotta be more expensive to produce than its worth. But history has made it clear a bizarre number of wrestlers are willing to work basically for free. Probably from their t.v. deals. In addition to their main one with KDOC they have a number of syndicated deals with stations across the country. o |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 4:46:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I totally don't get how CWFH makes any money at all. The shows are free to attend, and while they probably make some advertising money, I feel like its gotta be more expensive to produce than its worth. But history has made it clear a bizarre number of wrestlers are willing to work basically for free. Probably from their t.v. deals. In addition to their main one with KDOC they have a number of syndicated deals with stations across the country. o Yes, the answer is TV. David Marquez (the promoter) has worked in the TV industry for over 20 years, and works for the station that the show airs on locally. Selling advertising for the TV show likely covers their minimal expenses. And it may have changed, but I heard previously that a lot of the guys who appear on that show are working for very little money, using the TV exposure to get their name out there. Similar to how Memphis used to not pay guys to work on TV, because they were getting the "free exposure" out of being featured on the TV show. Another promotion that still runs weekly is OVW, which also still has a local TV show in Louisville, KY. Also, Rockstar Pro Wrestling runs every Wednesday in Dayton, OH. www.rockstarprowrestling.com/events |
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