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Post by Glitch on Feb 22, 2017 0:38:37 GMT -5
Basically, the people at fox don't want to admit they were wrong before. So they're gonna cling to not having Wolvie in costume at all costs.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 22, 2017 1:49:50 GMT -5
I'm fine with Wolverine in the solo films not wearing a costume, so I'll give Mangold this one. Nothing excuses the lack of a better costume in the actual X-Men movies though. I just eventually hope to see some version of John Byrne's iconic brown/orange costume.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 2:08:47 GMT -5
I don't really mind Wolverine not being in that classic costume. Though that's also a personal thing as I think there aren't many old-school comic costumes that don't look kinda ridiculous when translated wholesale to the movie. Unless the whole point is to make the hero look a bit silly and dated.
I get why they weren't the canary yellow back in the original X-Men movies since they were taking their cues from Blade. Back then the yellow stuff would've looked corny as hell.
Now, I'd be fine if they never had Wolverine in another movie after Logan, so you could have X-23 take the spot and wear a decent version of his classic costume. ...probably without the mask. I always thought the mask was the worst looking thing about it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 22, 2017 2:10:50 GMT -5
The outfit is fine, I'd be down for Jackman wearing it. The mask, however, is the goofiest-looking thing imaginable and barely works for me on the page, much less real life. I don't think it's so bad, though I always found it kind of funny his haircut is shaped like his mask.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 22, 2017 2:22:13 GMT -5
The outfit is fine, I'd be down for Jackman wearing it. The mask, however, is the goofiest-looking thing imaginable and barely works for me on the page, much less real life. I don't think it's so bad, though I always found it kind of funny his haircut is shaped like his mask. I guess Logan doesn't want his hair getting messed up, so opted for a mask that envelops his hair rather than flattens it.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Feb 22, 2017 2:54:05 GMT -5
I think something like this would've worked just fine.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 22, 2017 4:38:42 GMT -5
So essentially, the story Kevin Smith tells about the Superman producer considering the costume "too faggy" is how this guy sees Wolverine? Awesome. I don't necessarily agree with him but this isn't what he said at all.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 22, 2017 5:19:09 GMT -5
I think something like this would've worked just fine. The Ultimate costumes are trash. They look like a Rob Liefeld parody. There's no reason the classic costumes can't be tweaked to look more modern without going all black and pouchy.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 22, 2017 5:37:07 GMT -5
"who puts a special branded outfit on when they do good deeds? And why? The only reason you do it is so you can have some sort of trademarked claim and get credit for what you did."
Has... has this guy ever read a superhero comic? There are myriads of reasons why someone targetted by superpowered psychopaths might want to protect their identity and use an alter-ego, without even going into the fact that most superheroes are operating outside the law. And need I remind you, the entire reason the X-men exist as a team is because they are being persecuted. Also, civilian clothing is rarely convenient for battle or acrobatics.
If nothing else, as Bruce Wayne put it: "criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror in their hearts".
And how is hiding your identity MORE narcissistic than doing it as yourself?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 22, 2017 7:30:00 GMT -5
"who puts a special branded outfit on when they do good deeds? And why? The only reason you do it is so you can have some sort of trademarked claim and get credit for what you did." Has... has this guy ever read a superhero comic? There are myriads of reasons why someone targetted by superpowered psychopaths might want to protect their identity and use an alter-ego, without even going into the fact that most superheroes are operating outside the law. And need I remind you, the entire reason the X-men exist as a team is because they are being persecuted. Also, civilian clothing is rarely convenient for battle or acrobatics. If nothing else, as Bruce Wayne put it: "criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror in their hearts". And how is hiding your identity MORE narcissistic than doing it as yourself? Also has he never heard of... the police? The Army? etc. most organisations doing "good deeds"(not getting into what counts as good deeds) have a special branded outfit
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 22, 2017 9:15:39 GMT -5
"who puts a special branded outfit on when they do good deeds? And why? The only reason you do it is so you can have some sort of trademarked claim and get credit for what you did." Has... has this guy ever read a superhero comic? There are myriads of reasons why someone targetted by superpowered psychopaths might want to protect their identity and use an alter-ego, without even going into the fact that most superheroes are operating outside the law. And need I remind you, the entire reason the X-men exist as a team is because they are being persecuted. Also, civilian clothing is rarely convenient for battle or acrobatics. If nothing else, as Bruce Wayne put it: "criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror in their hearts". And how is hiding your identity MORE narcissistic than doing it as yourself? Also has he never heard of... the police? The Army? etc. most organisations doing "good deeds"(not getting into what counts as good deeds) have a special branded outfit Yeah, I thought of that later as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 9:25:58 GMT -5
Bat in the sun has proven that Wolvie costume works in real life. sure, the mask is bit silly, but i'm sure a good costume designer could make it less toony. Heck! Batman costume works on screen! why not Wolvie, Bub?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 12:41:33 GMT -5
So essentially, the story Kevin Smith tells about the Superman producer considering the costume "too faggy" is how this guy sees Wolverine? Awesome. No his argument is Logan is a reluctant super hero who prefers to be left alone and not bother people unless a situation calls for it. And even when he gets himself in the mess he prefers to go incognito and not draw any attention to himself. Hell the X-Men movies have did the same conflict story with Logan. He's in the shadows and either he has to save someone when no one could or someone seeks him out. Shit happens and he runs away and sometimes ponder if he should continue on. Then he gets caught and has to carry on. And so on and so on
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 22, 2017 14:35:11 GMT -5
So essentially, the story Kevin Smith tells about the Superman producer considering the costume "too faggy" is how this guy sees Wolverine? Awesome. I don't necessarily agree with him but this isn't what he said at all. Once you start critiquing the color, then accuse him of wearing it while "prancing"....it's pretty clear what you're implying.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Feb 22, 2017 14:38:36 GMT -5
I don't really mind Wolverine not being in that classic costume. Though that's also a personal thing as I think there aren't many old-school comic costumes that don't look kinda ridiculous when translated wholesale to the movie. Unless the whole point is to make the hero look a bit silly and dated. I get why they weren't the canary yellow back in the original X-Men movies since they were taking their cues from Blade.
Back then the yellow stuff would've looked corny as hell. Now, I'd be fine if they never had Wolverine in another movie after Logan, so you could have X-23 take the spot and wear a decent version of his classic costume. ...probably without the mask. I always thought the mask was the worst looking thing about it. And even the filmmakers behind the Blade installments were demure about the character's previous visual interpretations. Though Snipes still would have looked like a total badass had he shown up in the blood club looking like this:
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 22, 2017 19:07:02 GMT -5
I don't really mind Wolverine not being in that classic costume. Though that's also a personal thing as I think there aren't many old-school comic costumes that don't look kinda ridiculous when translated wholesale to the movie. Unless the whole point is to make the hero look a bit silly and dated. I get why they weren't the canary yellow back in the original X-Men movies since they were taking their cues from Blade.
Back then the yellow stuff would've looked corny as hell. Now, I'd be fine if they never had Wolverine in another movie after Logan, so you could have X-23 take the spot and wear a decent version of his classic costume. ...probably without the mask. I always thought the mask was the worst looking thing about it. And even the filmmakers behind the Blade installments were demure about the character's previous visual interpretations. Though Snipes still would have looked like a total badass had he shown up in the blood club looking like this: I think by the time the Blade movie went into production, Blade had already switched to his biker look, which wasn't even dorky looking. Just black leather jacket and pants, with a red t-shirt. I'm sure that was overlooked by them as well as Wolverine's brown costume, his all-black Madripoor costume, his Astonishing costume, X-Force, X-Men: Evolution, etc. These filmmakers always point out the original yellow outfit and say "See? Wolverine can only look dorky in a costume!". It's a copout.
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