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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 15, 2017 5:48:25 GMT -5
I love Michael, but this is a no-win situation. Dude's quickly becoming the guy they bring in to play other peoples' characters (Neo, Johnny Storm, Son Of Creed). I'm amazed that he wasn't in the running to be Lando Calrissian in the Han Solo movie. He needs to find roles that are more original and challenging.
And it goes without saying, no one was clamoring for another go-round at The Matrix, particularly without the involvement of the Wachowskis.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 15, 2017 10:03:23 GMT -5
A new Matrix with today's CGI technology would be interesting, but I question the need to do a reboot when a sequel with a new character that acknowledges the previous entries while having a new story would work better. That would be a huuuge barrier of entry. It's not just the three films, pretty much all of the Matrix stuff like games, animated film, etc, have some level of canon to them. That's a tough sell when quite a few of their customers weren't even born when the first one came out. Think of Wachowski films, like Jupiter Ascending, Clout Atlas, etc. Who saw any of those and thought, "You know what this lacks? Complexity." They routinely overreach. I'm not saying you have to watch everything to understand what's going on, just do a quick montage in the opening credits of how Neo saved everyone from the machines and all that, then move on to the new stuff. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 15, 2017 10:12:12 GMT -5
With all the technological advances that have been made since the original movie, a loosely-related sequel/reboot doesn't seem like the worst idea in the world.
I'd almost prefer a prequel, though that was covered in the Animatrix.
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Post by Push R Truth on Mar 15, 2017 10:12:23 GMT -5
If I was rebooting it I'd more or less kill the 2 sequels while keeping a couple of their points. Basically the first movie ended with Neo being The One. Meld that with the whole idea of The One helping to reboot/refine the Matrix. Boom, place the remake in a future version of the Matrix.
Either that or go with the lazy CGI/Action plot of "Humans are now free... and end up restarting the war after rebuilding". I mean, it could be cool. But I doubt it would be. I trust WB about as much as I trust the Browns winning the Superbowl next year.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Mar 15, 2017 10:55:46 GMT -5
This is the dumbest thing to reboot a movie that's not even that old. A prequel or a sequel is one thing, but a complete remake? No.
Is creativity dead in Hollywood? Get Out is about the most original thing in recent memory and thank Christ it got what it deserved. Everything else seems to be an endless stream of remakes, comic book movies, and sequels (A few of which no one asked for or wanted).
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 15, 2017 11:06:43 GMT -5
This is the dumbest thing to reboot a movie that's not even that old. A prequel or a sequel is one thing, but a complete remake? No. Is creativity dead in Hollywood? Get Out is about the most original thing in recent memory and thank Christ it got what it deserved. Everything else seems to be an endless stream of remakes, comic book movies, and sequels (A few of which no one asked for or wanted). For what its worth, The Matrix is 18 years old now. Some sort of soft reboot in a new version of The Matrix would definitely make the most sense though, and not a straight up remake. You know, if it just has to be done. |
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 15, 2017 11:36:11 GMT -5
This is the dumbest thing to reboot a movie that's not even that old. A prequel or a sequel is one thing, but a complete remake? No. Is creativity dead in Hollywood? Get Out is about the most original thing in recent memory and thank Christ it got what it deserved. Everything else seems to be an endless stream of remakes, comic book movies, and sequels (A few of which no one asked for or wanted). See, I've always been iffy on remakes. I don't have a problem with taking an established property and giving it a new twist or doing something new with today's technology and there's been a few I've liked (Robocop, My Bloody Valentine, True Grit, and the first Death Race). The problem is when they suck. I don't know why it's so hard to make an enjoyable movie that's a remake of something previous, but I wonder whether there'd be such a negative reputation for a movie getting remade if there was more effort put in towards taking the previous idea, seeing how it worked, and trying something that's in the spirit of the original yet does its own thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 11:51:40 GMT -5
Why remake The Matrix when a prequel of the machines taking over or a sequel of humans rebuilding civilization and coping with the fact that they've been enslaved by robots for a hundred something years and in total shock on how good they had it with some humans trying to get the robots enslaving humans again is a lot more interesting. There's new material to work with then just the same story told again with even more CGI, less style, and uninteresting leads.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 15, 2017 11:57:39 GMT -5
The Matrix never needed sequels. They freed Neo, he shut down the Matrix, the end. After that it just descended into post-modernist bollocks.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 15, 2017 12:48:00 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan of Keanu's performance as Neo, it felt too constrained. Which sounds weird since I adore him in the John Wick movies, I guess maybe because that particular character plays to his strengths better? Maybe, I dunno. But MBJ is awesome, and I see him adding more life and energy to the lead role in a Matrix remake.
But I'm not really clamoring for this either. The first film was more than enough as a decent standalone story, but the sequels were generally pointless, outside of some cool visuals.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 15, 2017 12:52:34 GMT -5
Everything that was fresh and original about it when it was released was cloned and copied so many times that it'd be hard for it to get the same interest as it did back then. and on top of that a lot of the ideas themselves were taken from Anime like Ghost in the Shell as well and with Anime being much easier to come by. Not to mention evne the Wachowskis couldn't get more than a single decent movie out of the idea... this seems really stupid. |
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 15, 2017 13:13:53 GMT -5
Why not instead of doing a half assed ripoff of William Gibson stories do a legit adaptation of them? Still haven't figured out why The Matrix was a hit.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 15, 2017 14:22:48 GMT -5
Why not instead of doing a half assed ripoff of William Gibson stories do a legit adaptation of them? Still haven't figured out why The Matrix was a hit. Bullet time Also, that was peak trenchcoat and leather season |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 15, 2017 14:30:12 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan of Keanu's performance as Neo, it felt too constrained. Which sounds weird since I adore him in the John Wick movies, I guess maybe because that particular character plays to his strengths better? Maybe, I dunno. But MBJ is awesome, and I see him adding more life and energy to the lead role in a Matrix remake. But I'm not really clamoring for this either. The first film was more than enough as a decent standalone story, but the sequels were generally pointless, outside of some cool visuals. It almost feels like it'd just be easier to write a new idea around Michael B. Jordan rather than shoehorning him into something that may or may not even be wanted. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Mar 15, 2017 14:44:33 GMT -5
unless they do it from the BEGINNING of the whole saga eg when it all started, or do something clever with it ..... the primary character is NOT THE HERO ..... then it's a waste of time!
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Post by lemonyellowson on Mar 15, 2017 14:49:06 GMT -5
So, so pointless
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 15, 2017 14:50:04 GMT -5
I'm a Cypherite.
Do a movie about him, the real hero of "The Matrix" who wanted to spare the human race being exposed to the misery of the cold, bleak, real world, where people live on shithole hovercrafts and have rave parties in caves while listening to Morpheus and his boring speeches.
I'd take fake steaks over that anyday.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 15, 2017 15:01:19 GMT -5
Why not instead of doing a half assed ripoff of William Gibson stories do a legit adaptation of them? Still haven't figured out why The Matrix was a hit. Bullet time Also, that was peak trenchcoat and leather season It really was. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 15, 2017 15:03:13 GMT -5
Bullet time Also, that was peak trenchcoat and leather season It really was. Well Blade borrowed a lot of it's characters outfits from the Vampire the Masquerade rpg... where for some reason EVERY vampire wore a leather trenchcoat.... and also openly carried katanas... at least thats how it seemed to go in every game I ever played...  though like most of Vampire, I'm sure that aesthetic was taken from somewhere else too. |
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 15, 2017 15:11:47 GMT -5
Why not instead of doing a half assed ripoff of William Gibson stories do a legit adaptation of them? Still haven't figured out why The Matrix was a hit. Bullet time Also, that was peak trenchcoat and leather season Bullet time had been being done in piles of HK action films for years before the Matrix. But yes Matrix is the first mainstream US film to use that feature. |
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