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Post by revolver86 on Mar 24, 2017 21:24:08 GMT -5
Okay, I just got out of rehab to treat my alcoholism, and I swear I was the only younger person in there for booze. 95% of the people in there were in for heroin addiction. It's one thing to hear about it, on the news, but seeing it for a month has really opened my eyes to just how bad opioid addiction has gotten, in the past few years. Maybe I'm just freaking out, found out a friend I made in rehab just od'd and died. She was only 20 and it just kills me seeing all these young, wonderful people dropping like flies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 23:57:45 GMT -5
It's a pretty scary thing. Where I'm from we skipped the heroin epidemic and went straight to a fentanyl epidemic. A drug that's even cheaper, more potent, physically addictive, and deadlier. Also congrats on getting out of rehab, I'm pulling for you.
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Post by revolver86 on Mar 25, 2017 0:28:38 GMT -5
We're getting alot of kids dying because they think they are buying dope but they are getting Carfentanil, which is like 1000x more potent then fentanil. It just scares me to death that I made all these friends and they could very well all be dead before the year closes. As my therapist said, in rehab, if I fall off the wagon, one shot won't necessarily kill me. These poor kids are hooked on some shit where one relapse could be the end. It scares the shit out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 0:36:51 GMT -5
We're getting alot of kids dying because they think they are buying dope but they are getting Carfentanil, which is like 1000x more potent then fentanil. It just scares me to death that I made all these friends and they could very well all be dead before the year closes. As my therapist said, in rehab, if I fall off the wagon, one shot won't necessarily kill me. These poor kids are hooked on some shit where one relapse could be the end. It scares the shit out of me. Hell many of the fentanyl overdoses are just from "weekend recreation" users. But Jesus Christ you mean there's something passed fentanyl already that is gaining traction as a street drug in a short period of time? Like it's bad enough some asshole was like lets make something 1000 times more deadly and addictive than heroin, now lets make something that's even 1000 times more deadlier than that. |
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Post by revolver86 on Mar 25, 2017 0:41:51 GMT -5
We're getting alot of kids dying because they think they are buying dope but they are getting Carfentanil, which is like 1000x more potent then fentanil. It just scares me to death that I made all these friends and they could very well all be dead before the year closes. As my therapist said, in rehab, if I fall off the wagon, one shot won't necessarily kill me. These poor kids are hooked on some shit where one relapse could be the end. It scares the shit out of me. Hell many of the fentanyl overdoses are just from "weekend recreation" users. But Jesus Christ you mean there's something passed fentanyl already that is gaining traction as a street drug in a short period of time? Like it's bad enough some asshole was like lets make something 1000 times more deadly and addictive than heroin, now lets make something that's even 1000 times more deadlier than that. They say a half a grain of sand worth of carfentanil will f*** you up, a whole grain will kill you. This whole deal is killing off a huge chunk of the mid west, right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 0:49:49 GMT -5
Hell many of the fentanyl overdoses are just from "weekend recreation" users. But Jesus Christ you mean there's something passed fentanyl already that is gaining traction as a street drug in a short period of time? Like it's bad enough some asshole was like lets make something 1000 times more deadly and addictive than heroin, now lets make something that's even 1000 times more deadlier than that. They say a half a grain of sand worth of carfentanil will f*** you up, a whole grain will kill you. This whole deal is killing off a huge chunk of the mid west, right now. Yeah I'm reading about it right now and it looks like it starting to hit my area now. But the thing that really makes me uneasy about his epidemic is that majority of deaths and OD's are from people quite younger than me. |
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Post by Heartbreaker on Mar 25, 2017 1:17:43 GMT -5
Here there seems to be an ice (meth) epidemic, heard stories of kids as young as 10 taking it. Believe that even a cousin of mine is a user.
Also, glad you are treating your alcoholism OP.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 25, 2017 1:50:18 GMT -5
It's scary. I work with high school kids as a councellor, and hearing them talk about the frequent usage of heroin among their peers and kids younger than them just blows my mind and saddens me. When I was that age, we snuck off behind the school to smoke a cigarette. Now kids are shooting up in the bathroom.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 25, 2017 2:00:54 GMT -5
Last year, me and my friends got news alerts that there were almost twenty-something overdoses in one night. Insane. Like, heroin isn't new, we know it can very easily kill you.
Wanna hear something even more screwed up? Last summer, I had to call off work because a man and a woman OD'ed in my driveway. I guess they were walking from wherever they shot up, and just dropped over in my driveway.
I woke up to two ambulances, three cop cars, and two other paramedic vehicles. They worked on them for a long time, and they both lived, but it was really sick and f***ed up.
I can't imagine doing that shit. And I feel for people who have addictions, but you can only feel bad to a point. There's help and options out there. But they don't want it.
And they have that Narcan stuff or whatever it's called to revive them, so the junkies think they can just overdose and get brought back to life. They wanted to sell it over the counter, but a lot of people, especially parents of addicts, fought against it because they thought it would encourage their kids to keep shooting up, knowing that the life saver is right there in the house now. Instead of having to wait for paramedics or police.
But it's just a crazy f***ed up situation.
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Post by Display Name on Mar 25, 2017 2:15:24 GMT -5
I understand getting addicted to something once you've done it...but what makes people take that first step to try these hardcore ass drugs that can kill you? I've never in the least bit been curious and have been deathly afraid to ever touch anything other than pot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 2:37:39 GMT -5
Here there seems to be an ice (meth) epidemic, heard stories of kids as young as 10 taking it. Believe that even a cousin of mine is a user. Also, glad you are treating your alcoholism OP. I don't keep up with such things, I believe Alaska is a meth capital. I'm happy drinking my beer and smoking my cigs thanks. It's scary. I work with high school kids as a councellor, and hearing them talk about the frequent usage of heroin among their peers and kids younger than them just blows my mind and saddens me. When I was that age, we snuck off behind the school to smoke a cigarette. Now kids are shooting up in the bathroom. Society as a whole makes me scared to have kids. When I was that age, it was cigs, beer, maybe pot. Now, it's a whole slew of things. I think if I can swing it, I'd just homeschool my kid/kids. |
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Mar 25, 2017 6:55:27 GMT -5
I'd rather talk about the mail. Can we talk about the mail, please, revolver86? I've been dying to talk about the mail with you all day, OK?
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Post by thirteen3 on Mar 25, 2017 7:29:33 GMT -5
Hell many of the fentanyl overdoses are just from "weekend recreation" users. But Jesus Christ you mean there's something passed fentanyl already that is gaining traction as a street drug in a short period of time? Like it's bad enough some asshole was like lets make something 1000 times more deadly and addictive than heroin, now lets make something that's even 1000 times more deadlier than that. They say a half a grain of sand worth of carfentanil will f*** you up, a whole grain will kill you. This whole deal is killing off a huge chunk of the mid west, right now. There's a reason these drugs are (legally) administered to dying people. |
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Post by sfvega on Mar 25, 2017 7:30:34 GMT -5
I'm in the St. Louis area and there's a HUGE problem here with heroin and it affects all ages, but especially kids. Which is the craziest thing to me. How friggin dumb do these kids have to be to do heroin? I don't like to outright, sweepingly insult people, but jfc. I get peer pressure and fitting in and pushing boundaries and doing stuff you're not supposed to and even dabbling in drug use as a HS/early college kid. But injecting one of the highest potency and potentially fatal drugs into your bloodstream is friggin nuts to me. I don't get how adults with drug problems do that drug, but high school kids? I'm appalled. That's craziness. And it's been a problem for probably the last 4 years, with no sign of slowing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 7:51:49 GMT -5
i keep hearing about fentanyl addiction in BC. What is causing this massive jump in these overdoses. Is it just easier to get a hold of?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 25, 2017 9:11:28 GMT -5
Everyone who does stuff in my area just does weed or one of the legal/previously legal highs like methedrone
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Post by edgestar on Mar 25, 2017 9:16:28 GMT -5
New Haven may still have a heroin epidemic, but I haven't heard many stories about it on the news, lately. Last summer, it was a nightly topic.
I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, and I commend you, for treating your alcoholism
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 9:39:30 GMT -5
New Haven may still have a heroin epidemic, but I haven't heard many stories about it on the news, lately. Last summer, it was a nightly topic. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, and I commend you, for treating your alcoholism I'm Sorry if this is out of line. But edgestar, we need an intervention for your Ambroseism. A light hearted joke to lift the mood a little.  |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 25, 2017 9:44:16 GMT -5
Yes. It's terrible. We (USA) needs to massively increase funding for treatment, including funding for treatment those incarcerated in the CJS. We need to once and for all view addiction as a medical issue that can lead to dangerous criminal action rather than a criminal action in itself.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 25, 2017 9:59:31 GMT -5
Yes. It's terrible. We (USA) needs to massively increase funding for treatment, including funding for treatment those incarcerated in the CJS. We need to once and for all view addiction as a medical issue that can lead to dangerous criminal action rather than a criminal action in itself. Treatment units in prisons are more miss than hit. Wyoming's ITU (Intensive Treatment Unit) is the biggest joke ever. The state got the crappiest, lowest bidding company out there, and forces inmates through the program to get the federal funding. The company doesn't screen their counselors, either. We've walked off every director they've ever had and countless counselors. Having sex with the inmates, bringing them drugs...my favorite was one was wanted by the Texas Rangers for kidnapping a minor she was supposed to be treating. However even the best treatment program won't help if the person returns to the exact same environment they left from. There's a reason we call our Intake Unit the ITU alumni pod. |
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