FinalGwen
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Particularly fond of muffins.
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Post by FinalGwen on Mar 31, 2017 18:17:31 GMT -5
I think it's interesting that Marvel can lose a writer with Whedon's... If not reputation, then history. And it's not even that big a deal for Marvel, because they've got people who can do far better with the characters than him.
In other words, you might say that the Russos have swerved us.
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Malibu Stacy
Don Corleone
Had TNA/Impact! on while getting ready for my wedding
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Post by Malibu Stacy on Mar 31, 2017 20:11:06 GMT -5
Per wikis and googling, MCU Banner was born in December '69, per Winter Solider, Natasha was born November '84. Even without the source for Banner's age, there's no way he was born in the '80s. See I had them both pegged 35-40 with Banner being on the higher end of things. I learned something today. It really irked me that they decided to make Black Widow so young in the movieverse. I always felt we needed more female "old soldiers", not less. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 31, 2017 22:24:01 GMT -5
I had no idea Mark Ruffalo was, like, 50. Thanks, thread.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Mar 31, 2017 23:36:21 GMT -5
So much Uck in this thread, I don't even know where to begin, so, I won't, as I don't want to get Banned. But, yeah....this thread definitely has me SMDH.  Okay, I will address one little fallacy that has annoyed me since AoU came out, and people started jumping on the band wagon of believing this as being FACT. During the scene with Bruce and Natasha, she is NOT saying that not being able to have a child makes her a monster. She is saying that she was made into a monster (an assassin) by the Russian government, and sterilization was part of that process. When she calls herself a monster, she's talking about being a trained killer, which is what she was before changing sides. This is why her character was drawn to Banner in the first place, because she saw a potential kindred spirit. Hell, in that scene, she was pouring out her heart to him in ways she probably never would have anyone else, even Clint. Oh, and some of you might want to tune out on my comic reviews for a month after X-MEN #3, as it's going to be "Mary Sue-ing" like a MFer for the 3 or so weeks following that review. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 31, 2017 23:42:57 GMT -5
NOT saying that not being able to have a child makes her a monster. She is saying that she was made into a monster (an assassin) by the Russian government, and sterilization was part of that process. When she calls herself a monster, she's talking about being a trained killer, which is what she was before changing sides. Even if that wasn't what Joss was going for it could EASILY be and WAS taken that way by most people because she talked about being a monster and brought up being sterilized in the same damned conversation. the way it was written you are pretty blatantly meant to lump the two things together... and if you WEREN'T supposed to infer that than Joss did a shitty job of writing as it came across that way. |
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Apr 1, 2017 0:06:43 GMT -5
NOT saying that not being able to have a child makes her a monster. She is saying that she was made into a monster (an assassin) by the Russian government, and sterilization was part of that process. When she calls herself a monster, she's talking about being a trained killer, which is what she was before changing sides. Even if that wasn't what Joss was going for it could EASILY be and WAS taken that way by most people because she talked about being a monster and brought up being sterilized in the same damned conversation. the way it was written you are pretty blatantly meant to lump the two things together... and if you WEREN'T supposed to infer that than Joss did a shitty job of writing as it came across that way. I don't know.....I understood it fine the first time I watched it. In fact, it kind of amazed me when I heard about the outrage, as it seemed so silly to me that someone that made such major strides for women in the sci-fi/fantasy genre(s) would suddenly whip off a mask and go, "Mwu-hahahaha!!!! I'm a misogynist!!! Women that can't have kids are MONSTERS!!! MONSTERS I tell you!!!" People hear what they want to hear, I guess. |
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Glitch
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Not Going To Die; Childs, we're goin' out to give Blair the test. If he tries to make it back here and we're not with him... burn him.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 1, 2017 4:46:20 GMT -5
So DC is tna?
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Jiren
Patti Mayonnaise
Hearts Bayformers
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Post by Jiren on Apr 1, 2017 4:54:28 GMT -5
I hear they're basing it on Nu52 Batgirl
Does WB realise DC are still apologising for Nu52, mind current Batgirl is awful as well
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 1, 2017 9:08:37 GMT -5
I hear they're basing it on Nu52 Batgirl Does WB realise DC are still apologising for Nu52, mind current Batgirl is awful as well Nu52 Batgirl sold extremely well. |
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Apr 1, 2017 9:18:25 GMT -5
I hear they're basing it on Nu52 Batgirl Does WB realise DC are still apologising for Nu52, mind current Batgirl is awful as well Nu52 Batgirl sold extremely well. So It was badly written |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 1, 2017 9:30:44 GMT -5
Nu52 Batgirl sold extremely well. So It was badly written I wasn't a huge fan of the post Gail run either but I'm just saying that's why they would be using that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 9:43:14 GMT -5
Even if that wasn't what Joss was going for it could EASILY be and WAS taken that way by most people because she talked about being a monster and brought up being sterilized in the same damned conversation. the way it was written you are pretty blatantly meant to lump the two things together... and if you WEREN'T supposed to infer that than Joss did a shitty job of writing as it came across that way. I don't know.....I understood it fine the first time I watched it. In fact, it kind of amazed me when I heard about the outrage, as it seemed so silly to me that someone that made such major strides for women in the sci-fi/fantasy genre(s) would suddenly whip off a mask and go, "Mwu-hahahaha!!!! I'm a misogynist!!! Women that can't have kids are MONSTERS!!! MONSTERS I tell you!!!" People hear what they want to hear, I guess. Humans are decaying meatbags of offal and hydrochloric acid human and can have huge blindspots to things. He can still say and do misogynistic shit. Which he has pretty frequently, but anyway... I've always said Whedon's stuck in the 90's when it comes to his sensibilities and he's just coasting off the good will he got with Buffy and people still hoping for more Firefly. Then again, I always thought Whedon was a half-ass. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 1, 2017 10:53:07 GMT -5
I have more positive feelings than negative about Whedon's work, but I'll admit his sense of feminism is very "1990's girl power", and that's a limited perspective in 2017.
I'm cautiously optimistic partly because I liked AoU in spite of his faults. That was probably one of the weaker MCU films, but even that was light years ahead of superhero movies in the Catwoman/Batman and Robin tier.
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