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Post by abjordans on May 22, 2017 18:50:21 GMT -5
That is the thing. He says all the right stuff. On Jericho's podcast I damn near wanted to cheer for him. But, then you realize that is all bullshit. He talks about all this positivity and hard work, and it just doesn't add up. He hasn't gotten better. There are no signs of him working hard and improving his craft. No one even knows what he did really in between WWE stints. He wasn't out there tearing it up my McIntyre. He showed back up and got on steroids and VInce couldn't help himself. Mahal has one of the most freakish physiques I have ever seen. Warrior wasn't as shredded and huge in his prime as Jinder. That got him the push, I am sorry to say it. I felt like every time the camera stayed on his back and chest acne too long they must have been yelled at because there were so many quick cuts anytime it was visible for too long. I disagree with this, I think he has been improving both on mic and in ring. He's not the greatest worker but I really enjoyed how he worked Randy's shoulder the whole match last night, he did a very good job at playing to being the cowardly heel with his minions.
And saying he got his push because of his physique and that's it, when again, he has not been popped for Steroids, has been tested, is really getting tiring from posters. Because people keep saying it like it's a fact, and currently, it's all speculation, so people need to stop saying "Im sorry to say he got this push because these reasons", that's more bullshit than anything else right now, until proven otherwise. Come on, bro. Look at the dude. We now know enough to know that is not a natural physique. Say you are tired of it all you want, but that man is on an extreme amount of performance enhancing drugs. He possibly has the most freakish physique in the history of the WWE.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 22, 2017 18:52:42 GMT -5
I disagree with this, I think he has been improving both on mic and in ring. He's not the greatest worker but I really enjoyed how he worked Randy's shoulder the whole match last night, he did a very good job at playing to being the cowardly heel with his minions.
And saying he got his push because of his physique and that's it, when again, he has not been popped for Steroids, has been tested, is really getting tiring from posters. Because people keep saying it like it's a fact, and currently, it's all speculation, so people need to stop saying "Im sorry to say he got this push because these reasons", that's more bullshit than anything else right now, until proven otherwise. Come on, bro. Look at the dude. We now know enough to know that is not a natural physique. Say you are tired of it all you want, but that man is on an extreme amount of performance enhancing drugs. He possibly has the most freakish physique in the history of the WWE. Until he actually gets popped, no, I'm not saying anything, nor am I going to go around and spread it like fact. If he actually gets popped, that's another story, and WWE will have been morons for bringing that terrible PR on themselves in this day and age.
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Post by MrElijah on May 22, 2017 18:52:49 GMT -5
They took a jobber, and gave him the title over one of their hand-picked & favorite guys. It's a real Jinderella story. Straight up, no jokes, is this the first straight up WWF/E Jobber to rise to the Belt since Jeff Hardy(Yes I remember the Hardyz as jobbers)?
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Post by abjordans on May 22, 2017 18:58:33 GMT -5
Come on, bro. Look at the dude. We now know enough to know that is not a natural physique. Say you are tired of it all you want, but that man is on an extreme amount of performance enhancing drugs. He possibly has the most freakish physique in the history of the WWE. Until he actually gets popped, no, I'm not saying anything, nor am I going to go around and spread it like fact. If he actually gets popped, that's another story, and WWE will have been morons for bringing that terrible PR on themselves in this day and age. I get where you are coming from, I do. But, humor me. Do you think it is possible someone looks like that from hard work, diet, and legal supplements only?
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Post by Hit Girl on May 22, 2017 18:59:59 GMT -5
The Mumbai stock exchange closed at record highs this evening.
Now I'm not saying it was because of Jinder's win, but....yeah it was because of that.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 22, 2017 19:01:06 GMT -5
Here's how I see it...
Is he the best wrestler in the company, or even in the top 20? No. Is he the best promo in the company? No. Is he being pushed for the wrong reasons, be it his physique or his ethnicity? Possibly.
Does he deserve the opportunity? Absolutely. Just about anyone in that spot does.
I believe not one full-time person on that roster "deserves" the opportunities more than anyone else, be it Zayn, Mahal, Cesaro, Hawkins, Reigns, Samson, whoever. Dude trains and travels just as much as anyone else in the company, steroids or not. Plus, he doesn't seem to have an ego about himself and is beloved by the guys in the back.
Now, whether it's a good well-written story or not or whether there are other wrestlers the crowd are more interested in that they'd prefer in that spot, that's where the issue lies.
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Post by abjordans on May 22, 2017 19:04:22 GMT -5
Here's how I see it... Is he the best wrestler in the company, or even in the top 20? No. Is he the best promo in the company? No. Is he being pushed for the wrong reasons, be it his physique or his ethnicity? Possibly. Does he deserve the opportunity? Absolutely. Just about anyone in that spot does. I believe not one full-time person on that roster "deserves" the opportunities more than anyone else, be it Zayn, Mahal, Cesaro, Hawkins, Reigns, Samson, whoever. Dude trains and travels just as much as anyone else in the company, steroids or not. Plus, he doesn't seem to have an ego about himself and is beloved by the guys in the back. Now, whether it's a good well-written story or not or whether there are other wrestlers the crowd are more interested in that they'd prefer in that spot, that's where the issue lies. Sorry, you just have to have more going for you to be WWE Champion than "he comes to work everyday and tries hard". This isn't an office and he isn't in a cubicle, he is the WWE Champion. He needs to be over, point blank period.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 22, 2017 19:18:51 GMT -5
Here's how I see it... Is he the best wrestler in the company, or even in the top 20? No. Is he the best promo in the company? No. Is he being pushed for the wrong reasons, be it his physique or his ethnicity? Possibly. Does he deserve the opportunity? Absolutely. Just about anyone in that spot does. I believe not one full-time person on that roster "deserves" the opportunities more than anyone else, be it Zayn, Mahal, Cesaro, Hawkins, Reigns, Samson, whoever. Dude trains and travels just as much as anyone else in the company, steroids or not. Plus, he doesn't seem to have an ego about himself and is beloved by the guys in the back. Now, whether it's a good well-written story or not or whether there are other wrestlers the crowd are more interested in that they'd prefer in that spot, that's where the issue lies. Sorry, you just have to have more going for you to be WWE Champion than "he comes to work everyday and tries hard". This isn't an office and he isn't in a cubicle, he is the WWE Champion. He needs to be over, point blank period. I'm not denying that. But that's not on anything Mahal's doing. That's on the writers for rushing through the story.
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Post by 魔界5号 on May 22, 2017 19:24:48 GMT -5
Do people who are indifferent towards him qualify as Jinder neutral?
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Post by abjordans on May 22, 2017 19:29:07 GMT -5
Sorry, you just have to have more going for you to be WWE Champion than "he comes to work everyday and tries hard". This isn't an office and he isn't in a cubicle, he is the WWE Champion. He needs to be over, point blank period. I'm not denying that. But that's not on anything Mahal's doing. That's on the writers for rushing through the story. Maybe I am looking at this all wrong... But, a lot of talented guys that don't get main event pushes, at least they are doing something. Cesaro is always doing something, he may not be WWE Champ, but he is part of the show. With Mahal, it isn't like he has shown flashes of brilliance to make a person think "he could take the ball and run if they gave it to him". Mahal was bottom of the barrel, to be that low on the card and presented that unimportant, one would have to assume he isn't that great. If they super pushed a guy like Santino in 2011, it would be random, but at least it would be fathomable. He was in the mix, he was just given the chance to step up. Mahal wasn't even in the mix, I think that is why it is frustrating and transparent to people. The only thing that has changed is about 50 lbs of veins.
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Post by the2ndevil on May 22, 2017 19:37:22 GMT -5
Do people who are indifferent towards him qualify as Jinder neutral? I hate myself for laughing at this.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 22, 2017 19:39:27 GMT -5
I don't think anyone that isn't actually around the guy is in ANY position to talk about how hard the guy has worked/is working to better himself.
I'm whatever on the guy winning or not, but some of this shit y'all are talkin is just unfair.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:49:41 GMT -5
Do people who are indifferent towards him qualify as Jinder neutral? I laughed pretty hard at this and now I'm in a better mood. Thanks, bro
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Post by abjordans on May 22, 2017 19:52:21 GMT -5
I don't think anyone that isn't actually around the guy is in ANY position to talk about how hard the guy has worked/is working to better himself. I'm whatever on the guy winning or not, but some of this shit y'all are talkin is just unfair. Some of the shit some of y'all talk makes it seem you don't want anyone to have an opinion on anything. No injuries are every anyone's fault, can't say if certain people deserve a push or not because everyone deserves one. The guy has shown no signs of improvement other than to his physique and he was just give the most important spot in all of professional wrestling,seemingly on a whim. I am not mad at it, but I don't agree with it, what is unfair about that opinion? He is obviously worked by hard at something, but that doesn't mean I have to see he deserves that spot or title.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 22, 2017 19:53:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm with Kevin here. There's no need to question anyone's work ethic or rip into it since we don't know about it. We can only judge on what we see on TV and MAYBE the occasional interview glimpse but even then, that seems unfair at times.
The reason I can't get invested in the "he's worked hard" theory is that, well, everyone on the roster's worked hard or else they wouldn't be there. You don't do 200+ days a year going around the world and NOT work hard.
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Post by abjordans on May 22, 2017 20:13:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm with Kevin here. There's no need to question anyone's work ethic or rip into it since we don't know about it. We can only judge on what we see on TV and MAYBE the occasional interview glimpse but even then, that seems unfair at times. The reason I can't get invested in the "he's worked hard" theory is that, well, everyone on the roster's worked hard or else they wouldn't be there. You don't do 200+ days a year going around the world and NOT work hard. This has been the point I wanted to make. Yea, they all work hard. They all travel, they all work every night, they are all tired and hurt. But, they are the ones who chose to be WWE superstars, they know what comes with it. But, that doesn't and never has been all it takes to get you to be WWE Champion. Every other guy that has held the title has brought that to the table plus more. Jinder is the most basic, base model guy to ever be WWE Champion. If we can't voice that opinion without being treated like we are overreacting, what is the point of this board?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 22, 2017 20:31:21 GMT -5
Meanwhile at India's equivalent of FAN...
Sunny'smugshot: The f***ing 3mb guy?
Ted Diabetes: Vince knows we know it's not real right?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 20:32:09 GMT -5
Say what ya want about his abilities, but Jindt. No one even knows what he did really in between WWE stints. Sure they do. He wrestled on the Indies, in places like Vancouver, Puerto Rico, in Japan with Inoki Genome Federation, and in the Great Khali's promotion. Literally on his Wikipedia page and the Online World of Wrestling. He didn't turn into a world class worker but he also didn't disappear off the planet.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 22, 2017 20:43:56 GMT -5
We could go full stereotype and have em bring in Curry Man as an enforcer. But but Curry Man is Japanese the wwe wouldn't pass him as an Indian citizen I hope
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on May 22, 2017 21:27:06 GMT -5
Jinder needs to wear the title upside down so it's a giant M.
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