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Post by kingbookermark on May 22, 2017 23:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 23, 2017 0:44:14 GMT -5
They took a jobber, and gave him the title over one of their hand-picked & favorite guys. It's a real Jinderella story. Straight up, no jokes, is this the first straight up WWF/E Jobber to rise to the Belt since Jeff Hardy(Yes I remember the Hardyz as jobbers)? The Hardys beat Kaientai when they were jobbers. Then over time they won the tag belts, Bruce Prichard said that Vince doesn't give a f*** about tag teams so those belts aren't a priority to him. Jinder in a couple of months went from Jobber and Rusev's Dana Brooke to WWE champion, the single most important belt in the company's history. f*** the company was founded back in the 60s because the wwwf wanted to recognize their own champion and not the NWA's.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 1:11:14 GMT -5
They took a jobber, and gave him the title over one of their hand-picked & favorite guys. It's a real Jinderella story. Straight up, no jokes, is this the first straight up WWF/E Jobber to rise to the Belt since Jeff Hardy(Yes I remember the Hardyz as jobbers)? I dunno, kind of depends on how you define 'jobber', or 'rise' for that matter. Like Sheamus had a losing streak that lasted like six months and even once it ended did f***-all for a long time and yet he managed a couple more title runs after that, but of course had already been champion before then anyway. Or Punk for that matter, guy was pushed as a big deal at first on ECW and had been ECW champion by the time he got the World title, but in the run-up to actually getting the World title he was losing to everybody with a pulse and then of course both times he lost it he pretty much subsequently plummeted down the card up until he won the WWE title and basically cemented himself as a top player. And speaking of the World title, there's Swagger, Christian, and Mark Henry, they'd definitely qualify and no real reason not to count them since we're presently in an era of two top titles like that was.
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Post by Potayto Potato on May 23, 2017 1:22:41 GMT -5
Sorry, you just have to have more going for you to be WWE Champion than "he comes to work everyday and tries hard". This isn't an office and he isn't in a cubicle, he is the WWE Champion. He needs to be over, point blank period. I'm not denying that. But that's not on anything Mahal's doing. That's on the writers for rushing through the story. except his denying of using suspect enhancements/supplemenets, nobody is getting at Jinder personally for all of this. Why would anyone wish ill upon him or wish he'd remain a joke jobber forever? No signs he's a bad dude or anything Everyone is going at Vince/WWE company heads for this dumb decision
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Post by Potayto Potato on May 23, 2017 1:25:51 GMT -5
Meanwhile at India's equivalent of FAN... Sunny'smugshot: The f***ing 3mb guy? Ted Diabetes: Vince knows we know it's not real right? well whenever I check out the comments on WWE's various Facebook pages (WWE, NXT, Network etc), there seem to be a hell of a lot of marks from the Indian area (incl. Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc) who believe it's real and truly root for faces and truly hate heels
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 23, 2017 1:30:02 GMT -5
Meanwhile at India's equivalent of FAN... Sunny'smugshot: The f***ing 3mb guy? Ted Diabetes: Vince knows we know it's not real right? well whenever I check out the comments on WWE's various Facebook pages (WWE, NXT, Network etc), there seem to be a hell of a lot of marks from the Indian area (incl. Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc) who believe it's real and truly root for faces and truly hate heels They need to watch the Jackie Gayda match, that'll kill any doubt left.
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Post by Potayto Potato on May 23, 2017 1:32:29 GMT -5
well whenever I check out the comments on WWE's various Facebook pages (WWE, NXT, Network etc), there seem to be a hell of a lot of marks from the Indian area (incl. Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc) who believe it's real and truly root for faces and truly hate heels They need to watch the Jackie Gayda match, that'll kill any doubt left. or the physical dynamics of an Irish Whip ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by romanstylesiii on May 23, 2017 1:58:11 GMT -5
I don't think anyone that isn't actually around the guy is in ANY position to talk about how hard the guy has worked/is working to better himself. I'm whatever on the guy winning or not, but some of this shit y'all are talkin is just unfair. I agree with this. My gripe was with how they only put in about 3 weeks with Jinder, and just wanted to build him up more. From his body alone, you can tell the dude works hard.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 23, 2017 2:11:04 GMT -5
If they wanted me to think Roman's incessant superman pushes aren't so bad, it worked.
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Post by Potayto Potato on May 23, 2017 4:00:35 GMT -5
If they wanted me to think Roman's incessant superman pushes aren't so bad, it worked. can't wait for Jinder to win the Rumble 2018 and challenge (and of course beat) Cena for the WWE title
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 23, 2017 6:17:15 GMT -5
Jinder Mahal winning the WWE title has ruined a lot of repeated narratives. And inspired new ones to use in hopes of tearing him down. Such as he only got the belt because of his Indian heritage. Yes, because he is the only WWE champion to hold it because of his ethic background. Vince McMahon Sr picked Bruno Sammartino and Pedro Morales as champs to tap into the different ethnicities in the NYC market. Ron Simmons partly won the WCW world title because he was black. Or Mahal is on the juice. As mentioned before, WWE is not protecting Jinder when they suspended other talents who actually are proven draws. Or he was less than a midcarder before winning a world title. As others mentioned: Mark Henry, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, and Daniel Bryan were on losing streaks before getting suddenly thrusted into the main event picture and winning a world title. Nothing new. WWE has finally taken a big risk after a decade or so playing it safe. Whether it pays off is the million dollar question.
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Post by MrElijah on May 23, 2017 7:34:38 GMT -5
Straight up, no jokes, is this the first straight up WWF/E Jobber to rise to the Belt since Jeff Hardy(Yes I remember the Hardyz as jobbers)? I dunno, kind of depends on how you define 'jobber', or 'rise' for that matter. Like Sheamus had a losing streak that lasted like six months and even once it ended did f***-all for a long time and yet he managed a couple more title runs after that, but of course had already been champion before then anyway. Or Punk for that matter, guy was pushed as a big deal at first on ECW and had been ECW champion by the time he got the World title, but in the run-up to actually getting the World title he was losing to everybody with a pulse and then of course both times he lost it he pretty much subsequently plummeted down the card up until he won the WWE title and basically cemented himself as a top player. And speaking of the World title, there's Swagger, Christian, and Mark Henry, they'd definitely qualify and no real reason not to count them since we're presently in an era of two top titles like that was. I mean the quote-unquote Ham N' Egger, not losing streak a while, then get hot.
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Post by Chip Jordan on May 23, 2017 9:02:10 GMT -5
Quick question for one of the stat-loving guys/gals - how many singles PPV victories did Jinder Mahal have on PPV before Sunday?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 23, 2017 9:13:27 GMT -5
Quick question for one of the stat-loving guys/gals - how many singles PPV victories did Jinder Mahal have on PPV before Sunday? This was his first singles PPV win... but it's only his second singles PPV match. He'd never even had one until Fastlane this year against Cesaro.
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Post by KofiMania on May 23, 2017 11:30:59 GMT -5
Say what ya want about his abilities, but Jinder the man seems like a cool dude with the right attitude. That is the thing. He says all the right stuff. On Jericho's podcast I damn near wanted to cheer for him. But, then you realize that is all bullshit. He talks about all this positivity and hard work, and it just doesn't add up. He hasn't gotten better. There are no signs of him working hard and improving his craft. No one even knows what he did really in between WWE stints. He wasn't out there tearing it up my McIntyre. He showed back up and got on steroids and VInce couldn't help himself. Mahal has one of the most freakish physiques I have ever seen. Warrior wasn't as shredded and huge in his prime as Jinder. That got him the push, I am sorry to say it. I felt like every time the camera stayed on his back and chest acne too long they must have been yelled at because there were so many quick cuts anytime it was visible for too long. Jinder is shredded but he's nowhere near the mass of guys like Warrior in his prime. He's actually pretty lean.
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Post by froggyfrog on May 23, 2017 11:33:19 GMT -5
Quick question for one of the stat-loving guys/gals - how many singles PPV victories did Jinder Mahal have on PPV before Sunday? This was his first singles PPV win... but it's only his second singles PPV match. He'd never even had one until Fastlane this year against Cesaro. Shocked we never got a big Khali-Jinder blowoff match back when they were feuding
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 23, 2017 11:42:32 GMT -5
Jinder Mahal winning the WWE title has ruined a lot of repeated narratives. And inspired new ones to use in hopes of tearing him down. Such as he only got the belt because of his Indian heritage. Yes, because he is the only WWE champion to hold it because of his ethic background. Vince McMahon Sr picked Bruno Sammartino and Pedro Morales as champs to tap into the different ethnicities in the NYC market. Ron Simmons partly won the WCW world title because he was black. Or Mahal is on the juice. As mentioned before, WWE is not protecting Jinder when they suspended other talents who actually are proven draws. Or he was less than a midcarder before winning a world title. As others mentioned: Mark Henry, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, and Daniel Bryan were on losing streaks before getting suddenly thrusted into the main event picture and winning a world title. Nothing new. WWE has finally taken a big risk after a decade or so playing it safe. Whether it pays off is the million dollar question. While I agree with pretty much everything else you said, Mark Henry, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, and Daniel Bryan at least had been presented and established as credible acts at some point prior to their elevation to the world title. Aside from the first couple of months where he was beating lower-midcarders Jinder has been firmly rooted at the bottom of the ladder his entire WWE career. It was a genuine surprise that he was even hired back last year, and until a month ago he was getting squashed in two minutes on the main shows by the likes of Zayn, Neville, Bálor, and Mojo freakin' Rawley, and trading wins on Main Event/Superstars with Swagger, Axel, Sin Cara, and Darren Young. I'm definitely not angry or against the idea of WWE pushing someone out of nowhere to the top title, but I really am bemused that they picked someone literally from the bottom of the pile in terms of credibility. Out of everybody on the roster I can only think of Ellsworth and Hawkins who could conceivably be below him.
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Post by 543Y2J on May 23, 2017 12:02:39 GMT -5
It maybe ironically but damn it I love this move. There is nothing more stagnant than Orton being champion, but there is nothing so fresh in such a surreal way than Mahal as champion. I am actually looking forward to his coronation tonight.....
It truly breaks down barriars for anyone and everyone to be a world champion now. I think it is a massive positive in that respect as well
2017 is weird
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 23, 2017 12:22:44 GMT -5
Come on, bro. Look at the dude. We now know enough to know that is not a natural physique. Say you are tired of it all you want, but that man is on an extreme amount of performance enhancing drugs. He possibly has the most freakish physique in the history of the WWE. In the history of WWE, you say? ![](http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/LoserKid4131182/tumblr_lqp85sWubV1qj2c7eo1_400.gif)
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 23, 2017 13:04:33 GMT -5
Maybe Jinder just went Kaio-Ken x10. Don't you feel silly saying he's on steroids?
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