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Post by rrh on Jun 5, 2017 15:28:26 GMT -5
Lol. She's not even a good promo. No matter if heel or overall. Soooo ![](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/890/790/828.gif) Okay so what's a good heel promo to you? And I swear if someone says Neville... Why not Neville? I'm not his biggest fan, but he does his thing well. But if you want others sure: The Miz, Kevin Owens, The Usos, Paul Heyman, Charlotte. Those are just a few examples of good heel promos. And certainly better than Alexa.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:30:10 GMT -5
She's the best heel promo they've got. Lol. She's not even a good promo. No matter if heel or overall. Soooo ![](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/890/790/828.gif) My personal take is... She is by far the best woman on the roster in regards to promos, but that's mostly because she and Becky are the only women in WWE who sound like they've ever had a conversation in their lives. Outside of that, Alexa is super good at backstage interactions and in conversations but she isn't that great at monologues. Still rather listen to her for an hour than listen to Charlotte for two minutes, though.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jun 5, 2017 15:31:02 GMT -5
Okay, how do they cut a better promo than her?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:34:32 GMT -5
Okay, how do they cut a better promo than her? Well, in Neville's case, he sounds a lot more genuine and like he puts actual emotion into everything he says, and all his mannerisms and deliveries are carefully calculated to further the overall idea that he's a miserable sadist where the only thing keeping him from happily killing everyone is the fact he's never happy. Alexa is a confident speaker but she's not a very refined one - she doesn't imbue material with anything more than what it has on the paper and really no matter what she's saying or what her character is going through she always uses the same perky smug way of saying it.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 5, 2017 15:35:52 GMT -5
She's the best heel promo they've got. Lol. She's not even a good promo. No matter if heel or overall. Soooo ![](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/890/790/828.gif) I can understand not liking her, but saying she's not a good promo at all? I just don't understand that. By far she's the best of the ladies. She sounds natural when she talks, which gives her a massive leg up on every other woman on the roster, and I totally buy her as a real life bitch.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 5, 2017 15:40:46 GMT -5
Okay, how do they cut a better promo than her? Well, in Neville's case, he sounds a lot more genuine and like he puts actual emotion into everything he says, and all his mannerisms and deliveries are carefully calculated to further the overall idea that he's a miserable sadist where the only thing keeping him from happily killing everyone is the fact he's never happy. Alexa is a confident speaker but she's not a very refined one - she doesn't imbue material with anything more than what it has on the paper and really no matter what she's saying or what her character is going through she always uses the same perky smug way of saying it. There's also that whole "fake sincerity -> instant smug bitchiness snapback" thing she'd do on Talking Smack all the time that was kind of annoying.
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Post by rrh on Jun 5, 2017 15:48:22 GMT -5
Lol. She's not even a good promo. No matter if heel or overall. Soooo ![](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/890/790/828.gif) I can understand not liking her, but saying she's not a good promo at all? I just don't understand that. By far she's the best of the ladies. She sounds natural when she talks, which gives her a massive leg up on every other woman on the roster, and I totally buy her as a real life bitch. I agree with you that the ladies aren't exactly huge talkers. But I don't see where Alexa has a leg up on the others. She basically gives the same promo week in, week out. She doesn't change her tone, she doesn't change her way of talking. It's the same, just with different words. Plus another thing that kills her promos for me are her overacted reactions to crowd chants or whatever her opponent is saying, which just comes off as forced IMO.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Jun 5, 2017 15:48:25 GMT -5
Okay, how do they cut a better promo than her? Well, in Neville's case, he sounds a lot more genuine and like he puts actual emotion into everything he says, and all his mannerisms and deliveries are carefully calculated to further the overall idea that he's a miserable sadist where the only thing keeping him from happily killing everyone is the fact he's never happy. Alexa is a confident speaker but she's not a very refined one - she doesn't imbue material with anything more than what it has on the paper and really no matter what she's saying or what her character is going through she always uses the same perky smug way of saying it. Because that's what the Bliss character is built on. Smug and oozing with confidence. Plus she always backs up her threats. She said she'd win at Payback, and she did it.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 5, 2017 15:48:46 GMT -5
If Alexa Bliss is the best heel on the stick they got, WWE is in much worse shape than I thought.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 5, 2017 16:33:24 GMT -5
What momentum did Bayley have?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 5, 2017 16:39:52 GMT -5
She's the female Bray Wyatt. Less talented than her push would suggest, typically used as a bucket of ice to dump all over someone's hot streak.
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Post by Fade on Jun 5, 2017 16:41:26 GMT -5
If Alexa Bliss is the best heel on the stick they got, WWE is in much worse shape than I thought. Well, she kinda is. And the other statement is kinda true too. Alexa is one of the best talkers in the company, you're kidding ourself if ya can't admit that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 16:57:48 GMT -5
If Alexa Bliss is the best heel on the stick they got, WWE is in much worse shape than I thought. Well, she kinda is. And the other statement is kinda true too. Alexa is one of the best talkers in the company, you're kidding ourself if ya can't admit that. She's one of the best talkers in terms that she's one of the few that's competent on the mic when there is a lot of talent who probably choke on what to say when asked "Would you like fries with that". I included a long list of active heel talent that's better on the mic, the list is going to be a hell lot longer if I included the babyface talent. Edit: And I forgot to mention the point there might be more talent who can talk but have never been given the opportunity. Like who the hell knew that not only Neville can talk but actually on how good he can talk?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 5, 2017 17:01:28 GMT -5
Bliss railroading Bayley is more of a coincidence than anything. WWE has shown definitively they have no idea what they're doing with Bayley on the main show, Bliss is catching on with the crowds a lot more naturally, it's not really surprising. Aside from that one surprise appearance and her debut pop I really feel like Bayley's been wheelspinning ever since.
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Post by Fade on Jun 5, 2017 17:02:21 GMT -5
Well, she kinda is. And the other statement is kinda true too. Alexa is one of the best talkers in the company, you're kidding ourself if ya can't admit that. She's one of the best talkers in terms that she's one of the few that's competent on the mic when there is a lot of talent who probably choke on what to say when asked "Would you like fries with that". I included a long list of active heel talent that's better on the mic, the list is going to be a hell lot longer if I included the babyface talent. By all means, do so. I said it in another thread, but Roman Reigns, Finn Balor, Baron Corbin and Brock Freaking Lesnar are 4 of the top talents in the company and they all struggle with scripted lines. A lot of the company does. It's one of the biggest reasons I'm turned off by WWEs content today compared to the Attitude Era. Or hell, even the 80s. Off the top of my head, Cena, Ambrose, New Day, Usos and the Miz are really good. And Alexa is right up there with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 17:14:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't see how people can compare Neville and Alexa because it's obviously Neville is far better than her in everything. Ring skills aside let's look at mic skills and being a heel, Neville's got that on lock. The difference between the two is that Neville's a genuine heel while Alexa only plays a heel in parts. Take their entrances. Neville is pissed at the audience, he hates them for how they've treated him and he genuinely runs them down repeatedly. Hell he's running to the ring asap to get as far away from them as possible, he doesn't do certain moves because he knows they'll cheer and he doesn't think they deserve it, he goes all the way. Alexa on the other hand she might show some of those traits but she panders and celebrates holding the title like a babyface still. ![](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/92/76/a5927634a1f080b8d78aa59ad9a5bd8e.jpg) She goes out there and does this. Afterward she cuts a promo in which she'll try to run the audience down, the same audience she was just showing the belt towards. That's not Neville. Neville either gets on the turnbuckle and runs the audience down or, like he's did Monday, he'd get ready to get on the turnbuckle, realizes who he's doing it towards and says "screw it they don't deserve it" and stays heel. Neville's got his heel on 24/7. Alexa's only got her heel on half the time. As for promos, Neville makes me believe he's who he says he is. Alexa's just playing a character. You can't really compare them.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 5, 2017 17:35:40 GMT -5
Yeeeeah....I don't hate Alexa but some are overrating her pretty hard.
In the same class as Cena promo wise? Ok....um. I disagree.
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Post by bearned on Jun 5, 2017 17:52:03 GMT -5
I can kind of see where they are going with this Bliss heel push, probably toward her getting her head kicked in by Asuka. Which is fine but it's a shame they had to make Bayley look like a total idiot.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2017 17:54:49 GMT -5
She's the best heel promo they've got. Heel promo as in women, Yes As far for the whole roster no. Miz has that on lock and we are not counting others like Joe, Usos etc.....
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 5, 2017 18:08:04 GMT -5
She's the female Bray Wyatt. Less talented than her push would suggest, typically used as a bucket of ice to dump all over someone's hot streak. Except that she wins far more often and has had more/better title reigns.
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